touching verse no touching
what would you think of a girl if you went into a touching club and she said she herself doesn't allow touching? I am wanting to work in brisbane again where all clubs have touching, but i have been in cairns and sydney for a while where there is no touching and i don't know if i can go back to touching again. I honestly think i do a better dance without the touching because its more of a tease, and there are more seductive dance moves involved. would it make you choose another girl instead?
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Some guys will, some guys won't. In my experience most guys in a touching environment tend to expect it, so you'll have to work harder for your money if you don't allow it. However you CAN make money if you set yourself apart, work hard and market yourself well.
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Prepare yourself for a lot of pressure, guys who are used to being allowed to touch will often get pretty rude when told they can't, especially if the girl dancing for the guy next to him is grabbing the guy's dick through his pants, lol.
My girlfriend used to let guys touch her breasts, got tired of it and quit allowing it, but is considering allowing it again. She is the cleanest dancer in a high-contact club, in a high-contact city, but a good grinding lap dance isn't enough for a lot of these guys. Many, many nights she comes home disgusted with the shit she has to put up with, both in the form of insulting verbal entreaties, and in the crude physical "I'm groping you anyways." approach.
She has a brilliant, sensual personality, and is the finest lap-dancer I have ever seen, but this means nothing to a lot of guys who just want to be able to grope a woman, or get a BJ.
If you have a resilient personality, and can handle seeing women who allow more than you do making more money on a large percentage of the nights you work, it should be OK.
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Originally Posted by Djoser
My girlfriend used to let guys touch her breasts, got tired of it and quit allowing it, but is considering allowing it again.
It's the first rule girls break in my high-contact metro area. It makes sense, because it keeps a customer's hands occupied and away from other pink parts.
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I go to a couple of clubs in No-Contact Mass. where dancers have been allowed by management to push the envelope with minimal one way contact. The girls who choose to indulge in minimal contact make a lot more money than the girls who don't. The difference is usualy one dance and done vs. doing several dances. I think it's possible but difficult to make money in an invironment where you don't go with the flow. You'll have to figure out a way to market yourself that keeps guys interested once they figure out that they are not going to get to touch the goodies.
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If your personal rules are more strict than the club norm, it's important to tell the customer that up front, before he commits to buying a dance. If you wait until you're in the LD room, he's likely to get upset and ignore your rules. Personally I don't care at all if a girl's rules are strict, as long as she tells me. If I like her I'll buy dances any way and have done so many times. In fact I will probably admire you for having the courage to maintain your rules. But if you don't tell me in advance I'm going to feel like I've been conned and will treat you accordingly.
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We allow touching at my club but no breast or crotch. One of my friends doesnt let guys touch her. She uses it to her advantage by suggesting that they get enother dance so that they can touch.
Don't go outside of your comfort zone what ever you do. I've known some girls who can give the sexiest most erotic LD and never have the guy touch her or touch them.
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When I started at my club, they showed me a bunch of written rules one of them was no touching. I wouldn't allow it at all, and then guys complained that the last girl let them, or that the girl next to us was letting the guy do it. So I started giving in. I later went back to saying no, and guys would refuse to pay me, or make me stop in the middle of the dance and pay me nothing. I hate touching, I need to find a new club that is more strict.
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Originally Posted by Bridgette
Some guys will, some guys won't. In my experience most guys in a touching environment tend to expect it, so you'll have to work harder for your money if you don't allow it. However you CAN make money if you set yourself apart, work hard and market yourself well.
Very very true! If you work in a club that allows contact, most customers will expect this, why not? But it is do-able to work in a contact club and make $$. I however think that the contact dancers may eventually starve you out.
I would try and stay with a club that offers no to very little contact if you don't want to surround yourself with grabby customers. We all need to find clubs that suite our needs as well as think about the customer, and both be comfortable at the same time.;)
Pamela
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Julzgulz, Detroit is a bad town for contact--which you probably know better than I do. Try Cheetah's, if you can handle working on 8 Mile. It's been a year, but when my girlfriend worked there it was no touching.
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Originally Posted by sexysunny
what would you think of a girl if you went into a touching club and she said she herself doesn't allow touching? I am wanting to work in brisbane again where all clubs have touching, but i have been in cairns and sydney for a while where there is no touching and i don't know if i can go back to touching again. I honestly think i do a better dance without the touching because its more of a tease, and there are more seductive dance moves involved. would it make you choose another girl instead?
I admire your honesty. And I think even mileage hounds would appreciate it. No sense them wasting time if theyre not going to get what they want nor is there a point in you putting up with requests (verbal or otherwise) for activities you have no intention of allowing. There are many types of customers and some prefer the type of dances you perform. Being the low mileage gal in the club might cost you some money but thats a choice you alone must make.
As for me personally, I dont do many dances anymore. There are lots of reasons why which I wont go into. Where my head is at right now, my club time is spent more in conversation than anything else. I still tip generously, of course, both at the stage and at my table so getting attention isnt that difficult. If you turned the clock back a few years, however, I probably would have chosen another dancer over you based on touching and contact. Im a lot mellower nowadays, at least in the club.
Whats the expression...follow your heart? Thats what you should do.
Good luck
FBR
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Originally Posted by Djoser
Julzgulz, Detroit is a bad town for contact--which you probably know better than I do. Try Cheetah's, if you can handle working on 8 Mile. It's been a year, but when my girlfriend worked there it was no touching.
Thanks, I'll go check them out! I was going to check out Trump's over there too, I know they do pretty good there.
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Well, I work in Sydney, and they arent allowed to touch, so I suppose it makes it easy. I'm thinking of going down to Melbourne at the end of the month, so it will be interesting to see how I handle it! :o
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I'll generally do what the limit is by that clubs rules. You probably would not get multiple dances from me if the club says you do and you don't. Touch dance is much more addictive, although I've done long periods of no-touch. I'm not a boob toucher and cookie toucher wherever I go. I don't really ever see that as allowed anywhere and am generally not interested.
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Actualy, you have exactly the right idea about dancing and touching. Men "respect" and "enjoy" the tease. Let's not forget that most of the guys that are there at the club are looking for mates, or atleast an imaginary "wanted and desired" mate. Wether or not they are looking for something permanent, they want that extra special "something" that is hard to get and they feel like it is something special when you pay them attention. Sooo, when you are all over them, and everybody else (and, trust me, they watch) How special is that?
You can tell, there are someguys who want the "slut" and some who are there to rescue you.
Use your instincts. TALK to the GUY!!1
Find out what they want. And BE the Fantasy!!!!
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thanks guys! i've decided to go down to sydney again for a couple of weeks after all that. working at mens gallery where there is no touching. thanks for the input!