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Dancer says she doesn't give hugs
There was this dancer at a club a while back whom was onstage dancing. No one was tipping her I thought she was kind of cute so I went stage side and tipped her. After she got of stage it took her a while to come over to the bar where me and my cousin was sitting. She didn't even thank me for the tip. She sat beside my cousin(there was an empty stool right by him) and tried to carry on a conversation. I leaned over and said hey I don't get a hug or a thank you? She replied I don't give out hugs because you never know where that persons been. He might have just came from feeding his cows or something. My cousin says Well darn am I suppose to be have some type of infectious disease? She didn't reply and neither I or him said anything to her, finally she got the picture and got up and left the bar. No you don't have to give a hug but saying you don't want to becaue you are afraid of catching something is dumb. If you don't want any type of contact with a customer you need to find another source of income. How in the world does this girl give lapdances? She probably keeps contact at a very minimum and that's why(no matter how good she looked) I didn't ask her for one.
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Damn,this chick sounds really stuck up.I don't understand why she's even dancing in the first place.
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Maybe she's not a hugger. I don't usually hug people, but I do thank them for tips!
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Originally Posted by Jpac73
she got of stage it took her a while to come over to the bar where me and my cousin was sitting.
Actually, there are plausible reasons why that happened:
1. she was going to men who were sitting alone first before going to groups of men, who can be more intimidating.
2. she thought since you tipped her, you had potential for more dances, so she already had you "bagged". She could then go around and get shot down by everyone else before trying her hand at a more likely outcome.
3. she didn't know if she should bother you because when men sit at the bar it looks like they are just doing the bar thing i.e. don't feel like talking to the girls and don't feel like getting dances.
This is of course no excuse for her not hugging you after you said that you wanted to hug her. It's also no excuse for her not thanking you for the tip!!! She must not want to be successful in this business.
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Wow, she has the attitude of a girl I work with. She could of at least said thank you. If she doesn't give hugs, she could've been more classy with her reply.
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It's completely within the perogative of the dancer to refuse contact with any or all customers. That said, such an attitude could seriously detract from her earnings potential.
I can understand if a dancer doesn't want to hang on a fat, balding, toothlessly slobbering PL like myself, but if you're an average- to better-than-average looking guy and ready to spend, it's in a dancer's interest to feign interest.
Two cents.
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She replied I don't give out hugs because you never know where that persons been. He might have just came from feeding his cows or something
Does this mean that she wouldn't let you give her money, because you would have to handle it with your dirty hands, and god knows what your hands might leave on the money?
I suspect that money is considered pure and eminently touch-able under all circumstances.
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I usually do an air kiss on the side of the face witha little hug. But last week this guy witha missing tooth came up and I just couldn't. I just smiled sweetly and said thank you and gave his hand a squeeze. That was still nice though right?
Some girls don't hug...but damn, find a method that works better....don't say I don't hug cuz I don't know where you've been...ouch!
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If she didn't wan't to give you a hug that is one thing, all though I don't think this is the right job for her. But not thanking you for your tip is just dumb. I hope she is really new and just does't understand the concept yet. Grove what a great reply, I wish you would have been there to say that to her.
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Usually I thank people for the tips when they give them to me...and I would find it pretty rude if someone implied that I needed to give them a hug because they gave me a DOLLAR. Even if we are dancers, that doesn't mean we cant' refuse to give someone a hug. Guess what? I don't really like to hug customers I don't know either, but I give a lot of contact during lap dances...if you want contact from a dancer, you have to PAY for it.
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I give my customers hugs after they buy lap/table dances from me.
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Not wanting to hug some random person sounds fine. It's your body, do with it what you wish. If you don't feel comfy doing something, by all means don't do it. BUT, at the same rate, it sounds like very bad business to throw a barb at someone who might potentially pad your pockets. There are other ways to thank someone. Smile and say it. No big deal. Maybe she was having a really bad night financially, or just got hold of a crappy customer earlier. Could be one of many many reasons. I've never not gotten a hug after a dance. But that's cause I'm just so damn cute and hugable! ;D
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I've never considered a hug/kiss a neccesary reciprocation for a mere stage tip. A thank you (and perhaps a request for dances) is plenty. Some girls do them, some don't, and some only do them for customers whom they feel comfortable around. Past business, good manners, and good hygiene go a long way towards improving ones odds.
As for when I've bought dances, it is nice to receive that little gesture of affection upon completion of transaction. I've always read that as the dancer's way of saying "come back again soon". Always good for repeat business.
All my ATF's have huggers or kissers (usually on the cheek), but in every case the longer I've knew them, the more comfortable they became with that sort of thing.
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lol....
i'll admit, there are some men who I wouldn't come near with a ten foot pole, let alone, hug them. <shivers> HOWEVER, I agree with showgirlschloe here, she could have replied with some class and respect. With an attitude like that, she wont get far.
It is possible that she was just having a bad day, or maybe some customers were nasty to her before that. We all can get a little snappy from time to time unintentionally. I know I do! hahaa...
Okay, enough standing up for the bitch... lol
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Here's my POV...
How much did you tip her? I typically don't thank guys offstage for a dollar tip and when they ask for a hug that's just annoying.
I have given a peck on the cheek in the past for larger stage tips ($20's and up), but the club I work in now all money is made off-stage so it's no longer an issue.
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I honestly don't think a dollar is particularly noteworthy of deserving of thanks - I mean, for a buck you wouldn't get a thank you out of a waitress - and if I had been having a bad day I could conceivably get annoyed at someone being demanding over a tip. It's a tip - it's no big deal. Let the girl hug who she wants - and not hug who she doesn't want.
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I wouldn't expect a hug for a couple of $ tip on stage, but definitely a "thank you."
I don't really even expect a hug if I've spent more on dances. Although my ATF will give me a kiss and a hug. In fact this last time, the kiss was mostly on the cheek and just barely touching the edge of my lips which I thought was kind of unusual.
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Originally Posted by Starfire
Usually I thank people for the tips when they give them to me...and I would find it pretty rude if someone implied that I needed to give them a hug because they gave me a DOLLAR. Even if we are dancers, that doesn't mean we cant' refuse to give someone a hug. Guess what? I don't really like to hug customers I don't know either, but I give a lot of contact during lap dances...if you want contact from a dancer, you have to PAY for it.
Hey you are still cool with me if you give lots of contact during a lapdance but I have a feeling she wouldn't have did that by her comment. I was going to ask her for a dance but if she is going to give me a airdance for $20.00dollars then it isn't worth getting one.
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Originally Posted by Jenny
I honestly don't think a dollar is particularly noteworthy of deserving of thanks - I mean, for a buck you wouldn't get a thank you out of a waitress - and if I had been having a bad day I could conceivably get annoyed at someone being demanding over a tip. It's a tip - it's no big deal. Let the girl hug who she wants - and not hug who she doesn't want.
Actually it was more than a dollar and I was the first guy to come up and tip her. The other guys acted as if they were disinterested or scared to tip.
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Originally Posted by Jpac73
Hey you are still cool with me if you give lots of contact during a lapdance but I have a feeling she wouldn't have did that by her comment. I was going to ask her for a dance but if she is going to give me a airdance for $20.00dollars then it isn't worth getting one.
That right there says it all. She might have gotten a bad vibe from you and decided that your $20 wasn't worth what you might have been expecting. A lot of us have really good BS detectors.
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A hug for a tip? I don't think that its necessary to do that. If you throw down a $10 or a $20+ I'll make sure to go over and thank you personally..if there is not a customer waiting for me. And if I do finish up with another customer and still see you..you would be thanked. But we are on stage too providing a show...up there on stage..if someone throws down just a couple bucks..I say my thank you's on stage. She was not kind in handeling the situation.
I'd like to know why I don't receive a mere thank you for stripping it off for the non-tippers. Cheapo's!
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Originally Posted by NinaDaisy
That right there says it all. She might have gotten a bad vibe from you and decided that your $20 wasn't worth what you might have been expecting. A lot of us have really good BS detectors.
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No you don't know what your talking about. 20bucks is the standard price for a dance at that club.
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*Anxiously awaiting Nina's response to that last post* :D Dependent upon the kind of club you are visiting, there are different contact rules. You may have been at a low-to no contact club. She might have been exercising her right to provide you the level of contact she feels appropriate. I go to a supposedly "no-contact" club where the girls will judge how much leeway they want to give you. I have a feeling that's what she was doing. She was probably getting the feeling you were going to grow hands the size of the Mickey Mouse that stands on top of Epcot Center. Then again, she probably was just having a bad night. And Nina is right, a lot of those dancers do have a hell of a BS detector, I've seen them in action.
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I think the problem here is so many clubs are SO different. In my club, it's normal to see a girl give a guya quick hug...but we make decent money on stage. Allot of guys expect good mileage for a twenty dollar dance.....most of us aren't that cheap ;) Twenty is the standard rate at MOST clubs (as far as I know) but that doesn't mean the standard dancer is going to grind you until you mess your pants for that same twenty.
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Originally Posted by Jpac73
Hey you are still cool with me if you give lots of contact during a lapdance but I have a feeling she wouldn't have did that by her comment. I was going to ask her for a dance but if she is going to give me a airdance for $20.00dollars then it isn't worth getting one.
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Originally Posted by Jpac73
Actually it was more than a dollar and I was the first guy to come up and tip her. The other guys acted as if they were disinterested or scared to tip.
Dude, you have to look at the silver lining in this. She gave you the cold shoulder before you decided to buy a dance and therefore saved you some money. I've personally had the misfortune of having to eat that $20 on a few occasions. Bad business sense on her part, but hey that's her loss. Just find a friendlier girl next time. The only way a malcontent like that is going to learn is for people to stop giving her money.
I think the moral to this whole story is that dancers have only so much time and customers only have so much money. Both parties use a pecking order of sorts in whom they decide they want to do business with. If you want to get to the top of a particular person's pecking order, going a little further than what the competition is doing is the way to do it.
In the customer's case, giving a tip on stage (particularly in a setting where most people aren't doing it) is certainly a way. But if one is going to expect an extraordinary amount of "maintenence" for that tip, that is going to diminish the value of his generosity, particularly when the dancer knows that there is another party expecting less maintenence for the same amount of money. Same goes for buying dances, VIP's, etc.
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Originally Posted by Jenny
I honestly don't think a dollar is particularly noteworthy of deserving of thanks - I mean, for a buck you wouldn't get a thank you out of a waitress - and if I had been having a bad day I could conceivably get annoyed at someone being demanding over a tip. It's a tip - it's no big deal. Let the girl hug who she wants - and not hug who she doesn't want.
Well I tend to think any tip is deserving of thanks, because if its not appreciated, the customer can always go back to giving nothing. The pecking order rule also holds true in reverse. If Dancer A takes my dollar and walks off without saying thanks, Dancer B says thank you, and Dancer C says thank you and gives me a peck on the cheek, guess whom of the above I am more likely to buy private dances from. Sometimes a dollar is more than a dollar.
Maybe no one at Jpac's club was tipping that dancer on stage because they had similar experiences with her and came to realize that there were other friendlier dancers to spend their money on.
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