Keen: separating listings
With the industry I have fun acting and playing not being serious, so with keen how do I separate listings or hide listings from another? I notice with one listing they can look at all the listings I made under that account, and if I have listings that contradict each other or are incongruent it could have negative impact on business. Like if one listing I play on being cool and nice and another I play on being a rude dominate arrogant asshole it wont jive, because the ones that crave abuse will be turned of by my lighter nicer listing and visa versa. If there a way to separate or hide the listings or set a mind frame or frame across so it wont affect the other?
any feed back or private messages on this mater if preferred would be greatly appreciated
Sincerely
mystery
Re: Keen: separating listings
I hear what you are saying. But if you look at people with multiple listings (only 4 allowed) they have a listing to suit any call!
One listing can be for "the sweet girl next door" who needs to be told what to do. That pay may be only $1.50 per minute.
Another listing you have for you may be Domination (what a big difference as you know) and you are "bitch who wants him on his knees now!" This price should be the highest.
Guys don't care if you are the same person who can be many characters, they actually love it, as i had callers start out sweet and sexy, then say "so you can fuck my ass too huh?"
Callers change in how they feel, and what they want! It's not a big deal.
Bottom line is put up listing/s that cater to EVERY callers needs. This ensures you get more calls. And keep you're price well within reason.
EX: You have a shoe fetish (fetish sells) and you're nylons are sexy to rub, boots. shoes, any colour to have rubbed and massaged sucked licked by YOU! Call me know i am wearing them just for you kinda thing.
Bottom line 1 PSO who does it all is HOT to many callers, because John (just a name) who called you last night wanted a spanking, may want to dominate you today.
Really, it's better to keep you're listing open to all! See which one sells the most calls, and play on tha one HARD.
Good luck, If you still want other options call 1-800-ask-keen
Pamela
Re: Keen: separating listings
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Originally Posted by Pamela
I hear what you are saying. But if you look at people with multiple listings (only 4 allowed) they have a listing to suit any call!
One listing can be for "the sweet girl next door" who needs to be told what to do. That pay may be only $1.50 per minute.
Another listing you have for you may be Domination (what a big difference as you know) and you are "bitch who wants him on his knees now!" This price should be the highest.
Guys don't care if you are the same person who can be many characters, they actually love it, as i had callers start out sweet and sexy, then say "so you can fuck my ass too huh?"
Callers change in how they feel, and what they want! It's not a big deal.
Bottom line is put up listing/s that cater to EVERY callers needs. This ensures you get more calls. And keep you're price well within reason.
EX: You have a shoe fetish (fetish sells) and you're nylons are sexy to rub, boots. shoes, any colour to have rubbed and massaged sucked licked by YOU! Call me know i am wearing them just for you kinda thing.
Bottom line 1 PSO who does it all is HOT to many callers, because John (just a name) who called you last night wanted a spanking, may want to dominate you today.
Really, it's better to keep you're listing open to all! See which one sells the most calls, and play on tha one HARD.
Good luck, If you still want other options call 1-800-ask-keen
Pamela
Thanks Pamela I appreciate how sharing you, are. I think it must be an indicator of how much success you have that you feel open and free to share.
Yeah I also wanted to try some regular non-sexual listings as well, as I was cuprous how those are?, but with that I definitely would want a separation.
Re: Keen: separating listings
well this is what I got back from keen:
Thank you for your email. All the listings you have on a particular account will be viewable on the NiteFlirt homepage for that account. There's no way to hide a particular listing from appearing on your NiteFlirt homepage. As you mentioned, you could create a new account for your Straight or Gay listings.
Many speakers operate multiple accounts but if you choose to do this, you will have to manage your availability on all of your account manually. Unfortunately, we don't have a way to link availability between accounts.
Sincerely,
The Play Fair Team
Re: Keen: separating listings
Right ^^^^ You will get 4 listings on different characters. Make them stand out. Hope you can do gay or bi as well because then you will cater to both sexes as well.
Just remember you have to promote the hell out of you're characters. Put the call button on Newsgroups, chat etc. Even join a Yahoo group for Keen players.
Great pictures and and fantastic boi are what will help alot! Also one word that many PSO's don't use in listings who have been around awhile is the word "hot."
That word is sooooo used up, i don't even use it during phone.
just my tip...lol
Pamela
Re: Keen: separating listings
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Originally Posted by Pamela
Right ^^^^ You will get 4 listings on different characters. Make them stand out. Hope you can do gay or bi as well because then you will cater to both sexes as well.
Just remember you have to promote the hell out of you're characters. Put the call button on Newsgroups, chat etc. Even join a Yahoo group for Keen players.
Great pictures and and fantastic boi are what will help alot! Also one word that many PSO's don't use in listings who have been around awhile is the word "hot."
That word is sooooo used up, i don't even use it during phone.
just my tip...lol
Pamela
Yeah when you don’t limit yourself your going to get better result in general with life, and it’s safe and can be interesting to get into what is going on when it’s over the net. Of course picking a niche is good, but I like to play with and see how many forms can take, as it seems to entertain and challenge me more maybe I think. I tend to be really good at getting repeats so it allows me to slack more and be more lazy if I wish, but I really want to get motivated and get hot here soon.
I mostly do video, and I haven’t promoted at all with keen at least besides put up my listing, so I’m going to get on it more to see what I can do with it as I have heard good things. I haven’t tried the news groups or chat I think because I tend to think it seems way to flooded as is and the very little chatting I have done on there seems allot looking just for freebees, and with the investment on time when it all comes down to it I question the returns? But I suppose there must be a method to quickly screen out dudes and a system to it, but I haven’t put any work into looking for it. Just tend to have people run into my stuff and I get the ones who are legit and they like what they get so they want to stay has been more my style, but I’d like to learn more as it’s fun to see new ways.
LOL yeah it’s definitely used up and I am most definitely guilty LOL.. I even have a screen name with the word hot.
Re: Keen: separating listings
Ahhh you used the word "Hot"!
The thing about Keen, since it has so many people doing everything for a few bucks, the big companies actually consider Keen to be the competitor, simply because while an operator on a well known site may charge $1.99 per minute, Keen allows anyone to set the price for the same Girl (as alot of people by content) pretty much the same taboo life she lives all for.99! :-\
Now who would you pick. These days i find, and i will go out on a limb here but speak the truth as i have heard it, guys are getting used to "poor" quality phone sex, as are women who pay for phone as well.
Why? we have alot of companies cropping up, no training, no experience needed, and these (alot) ladies think phone sex is an easy job. Most women have husbands out working, so they want to make a few extra $$ for shopping or a few bills, and don't really care about making a living off giving phone because they don't have to.
I still don't believe in the ole "keep em on as long as you can shit," on the phone. I give quality phone, and hope he will call again, because if i get 1 shot with him, and i seem to be dragging out the call (and customers know) he probably will not call me back again, so i do a smal portion of chit chat only so the customer will see me as a person, and then get down to business, but this works for me, because i am a good op, and usually get him again!!
I pretty much live pt of my regulars.
Good luck to you, i guess just a small piece of advice as to what works with callers. And build up that client base with very little work, as i am lazy too!!!! :)
Pamela
Re: Keen: separating listings
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pamela
Ahhh you used the word "Hot"!
The thing about Keen, since it has so many people doing everything for a few bucks, the big companies actually consider Keen to be the competitor, simply because while an operator on a well known site may charge $1.99 per minute, Keen allows anyone to set the price for the same Girl (as alot of people by content) pretty much the same taboo life she lives all for.99! :-\
Now who would you pick. These days i find, and i will go out on a limb here but speak the truth as i have heard it, guys are getting used to "poor" quality phone sex, as are women who pay for phone as well.
Why? we have alot of companies cropping up, no training, no experience needed, and these (alot) ladies think phone sex is an easy job. Most women have husbands out working, so they want to make a few extra $$ for shopping or a few bills, and don't really care about making a living off giving phone because they don't have to.
I still don't believe in the ole "keep em on as long as you can shit," on the phone. I give quality phone, and hope he will call again, because if i get 1 shot with him, and i seem to be dragging out the call (and customers know) he probably will not call me back again, so i do a smal portion of chit chat only so the customer will see me as a person, and then get down to business, but this works for me, because i am a good op, and usually get him again!!
I pretty much live pt of my regulars.
Good luck to you, i guess just a small piece of advice as to what works with callers. And build up that client base with very little work, as i am lazy too!!!! :)
Pamela
I think you brought up some great points. Thank you for that :)
Yeah you know I really don't think it's cool that some girls really cheapen us all giving out free shit, and it affects the guys too because it seems to have a ripple effect since it seems allot o the guys use the girls to model off obviously from reading some of the similarities in listings from reading in between the two. All these dumb ass “deals” and buy one get one free cheap ass "wal mart mentality" And people out there with low self esteem lowering the price or people really twisting things up by just doing free things for attention. Realize when I hear something enough there must be something to it.. like hey do X and I'll give you money LOL.. don't fall for stupid stuff like that but realize if it's being asked allot of people must fall for it sadly enough LOL. I don't cater to people looking for freebees only to those who recognize the quality I give an once they get an experience with me they wont be able to go back.. I spoil them. ... You know though I've learned that I really don't mind the people trying to cheapen us, because I just take it and turn it around to my advantage when I really stick out among them with how I do (quality) : )
Re: Keen: separating listings
And the quality counts in phone sex. Not quantity.
What some do is make them regulars, say the customer calls 4 or 5 times, and the trow him/her a free 3 or 5 minutes, whatever Keen is offereing at this time, not sure.
Keep you're books, when you get a request for a free call, tell the person to make a few calls with you first, then the few minutes free are worth it, you should have em hooked by then. :) eveen if you don't have em hooked you got em in the long run.
Good luck,
Pamela