for an aussie....
what kind of VISA would needed?
is it hard to get?
where is best to go?
is the money better than here?
just curious, for later. :)
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for an aussie....
what kind of VISA would needed?
is it hard to get?
where is best to go?
is the money better than here?
just curious, for later. :)
You would need a work visa. I believe they are quite hard to get since 9/11.
Couldn't answer the other questions for you.
Hollydoll/sushidoll -- go to the UK.
Forget about the USA unless you have a dual citizenship.
Firstly, due to being part of the Commonwealth it is easier for you to get a work visa.
Secondly, the conversion between the USD to AUD is low compared with the conversion between UK Pound and AUD.
100 USD = 130 AUD (approx)
100 GPB (UK Pounds) = 240 AUD (approx)
Thirdly, it is just plain easier for you as an Australian. The only way you will be able to work in the US is illegally.... and I don't recommend that... too easy to be "taken for a ride" by a club due to your illegallity (sp?).
Stick with the UK - England, Scotland, Ireland.
thanks gcg,
yeah i thought maybe it wouldnt be easy.
i was just interested because i seem to have really good luck with the american customers!
ahhh sushi :)
one of the dancers at my club now, just got back from a year dancing in the states with NO visias. she said its really easy to do, club managers dont mind too much, yep even the decent clubs, so she still made money,and had no problems with anyone/thing.
as for uk vs usa, each to their own, id go for the uk first as money making potential a lil higher, but if your wanting to go to the us for a holiday, you might as well try working too.keep in mind, from new york to london, its only a short plane ride away :)
Yeah, you had this one chasing all over Tokyo looking for you, and I never even met you! Must be some sort of special attraction you have for us yanks. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by hollydoll
-Ww
What about if you have a Green Card? I have a Green Card (it's actually pink, not green, I don't know why they call it green ;D). Am I allowed to work or do I still have to get a visa?Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldCoastGirl
They used to be green, and the name stuck when the color changed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashara
I am about 95% sure that a Green Card allows you to work in the US, but of course you should check with the US-INS before actually acting on anything you might read in an online post from an anon source.
-Ww
id be fare too scared to go without a visa now!!!!
though i despratly want tyo go to shanghai and no one is on visas/cares there. im still scared though.
haha ww, you never found me though!!!!!
I definitely wouldn't go without a visa, either to China or especially the US - maybe China you could get away with it but in the US if you got caught and deported you'd majorly harm any chance you might have of ever going back in the future (even if you want to get another tourist visa!). It's not worth it to me, I'm too paranoid...:O
i dunno....id give it a shot there.....if one of the dancers at my club can get away with it for a whole year.....nah.....anyone can do it!
I always approach what any dancer tells me with a hint of skepticism. I personally am with Ashara.... I don't want to harm my chances of any future USA dealing as a tourist or business-woman therefore I'm not willing to risk that for some cash.Quote:
i dunno....id give it a shot there.....if one of the dancers at my club can get away with it for a whole year.....nah.....anyone can do it!
Besides... as I will re-state... (accurate at the time of this post)
100 GBP = (approx) $240 AUD
100 USD = (approx) $130 AUD
The UK will give you a better return in re: the exchange rate... you double your money and then some by going to the UK and converting back to AUD.
Re the chances of getting by working in the US with out a proper visa, my impression is that the enforcement is extremely inconsistent and unpredictable. I know of communities of (largely) illegal immigrants in the US who have lived and worked in all sorts of jobs in the country for more than a decade, settled in, bought property, had families etc without the sightest problems with immigration officials. And, then, all of a sudden and for no obvious reasons, the US-INS starts doing raids, arresting and deporting people wholesale and, obviously, creating total havoc in the community and the lives of the people involved. I have no idea why it works that way, but it seems to be the case. (And, now that I think about it, much the same thing has happened in Japan; there used to be zero problem for dancers to work without a proper visa, especially if they did not overstay the 90 day limit on tourist visas, but recently it has become a big issue...again for no obvious or logical reason.)
So, like mer's friend, you can probably get away with it, but there is definitely at least a little risk of getting caught.
While the US$ is weak at the moment and it might well be an advantage to work in the UK due to the stronger currency, it is nowhere near as simple as just the exchange rate, of course, because the same work in the UK does not necessarily earn you the same number of GBP's as you would be paid US$'s for it in the US. If jobs in the UK paid the same number of GBPs and the same job paid US$'s in America, you'd see lots of people moving from the US to the UK to nearly double their incomes...which is not happening, of course! In this case, dances probably cost fewer GBPs in the UK than they cost US$'s in the US, or if not, customers probably buy proportionately less of them, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldCoastGirl
If exchange rates were perfectly stable and rational and all sectors of the economies were exactly synched up around the world, then of course it wouldn't make any difference what currency you were paid in; the same amount of work would be required to buy the same stuff. The fact that the situation is not so perfect and idealized is why, as GCG indicates, there can be real advantages to getting paid in relatively strong currencies; my only point is that the advantage does not depend only on the exchange rates.
-Ww
How did you manage to get your green card Ashara?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashara
Why not Canada? We are a Commonwealth country as well. And just as easy to get in as the UK. I am just a biased Canadian that has a thing for a pretty aussie or kiwi, with that sexy accent. :P I keep thinking about immigrating there and find myself a nice Aussie girl. ;)
The site on how to get a work permit in Canada.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/
http://www.workpermit.com/ This is a pretty good site that might help in making your choice. It has links for info on the UK/AU/CAN/US. And other countries as well.
I am in Canada at the mo, things are pretty good here in Toronto. It is a good place to base yourself for "side trips" to the US aswell. Getting a visa is no probs!
Yes the accent certainly works here! ;)
Where abouts in ON are you gdamadg?
It isn't just the accent, I have not met too many unattractive Aussie girls. Must be something with the water, lol.
I am a good drive away from Toronto. About 6 hours away. Closer to Ottawa.
Then... as far as Canada goes... where is best to work ? Topless or nude ? Touching or no touching ?
I have to agree with Wwanderer's post
.......just that I would rather have a 'bad' night of only 100 GBP (approx. $240 AUD) then 100 CAD (approx $106 AUD) or 100 USD (approx 130 USD). Even if all I can make is 200-300 GBP (approx $450-$700 AUD) per night on average.... no matter what happens.. the strong conversion rate between GBP and AUD helps allieviate this so much more than working with USD or CAD.
This is if you are doing it illegally, of course -- going back home within 90 days of your tourist visa.
I base my decisions on the conversion rate as the money would be converted into AUD cash (bringing some of it home with me) and the rest being sent to my bank account here in Australia (therefore being converted to AUD anyway).
Just my personal choice in the end.
Re Toronto, although I am from the US and live near NYC, I have to admit that Toronto is a really super city in many ways, beautiful, diverse, reasonably safe, interesting, classy. I'd think it a better place to visit than most US ciites, better than NYC in most respects, imo. I have not been in any Toronto clubs in several years, but they used to be very nice...and probably still are. So, another good choice.
Wasn't there recently some sort of major scandal in Canada about a govt official who was helping foreign dancers get into the country to work...in return for something, I suppose? I don't know if that changed/affeted the situation for dancing in Toronto.
-Ww
You can still get an open WHP visa which allows you to work anywhere.... just if you want to stay on after that it is a lot tougher to get a work permit/get sponsored by a club.
www.nakedtruth.ca is a good site for Canadian dancers
How long does the typical 'open' WHP visa for Canada last ? What is the general 'cost' of acquiring one ? Is it "heard of" that Canadian clubs will hire dancers who only have a tourist visa ?
It last for one year, its about $150 and very easy to get. You have to be under 30 and have a clean police record, that's about it.
You can get work w/out a visa but I wouldn't recommend coming over without one. You can only wprk in out of town areas so the pickings are slim. Also if you get caught working w/out visa it's not going to look so good on the passport!
I will find the link for WHP if you want GCG?
Here ya go sweetpea :)
http://www.whpcanada.org.au/
My family lived in the US for a while and our whole family got it. I keep extending it but they were getting cranky about it last time I did it. Apparantly I'll lose it it I don't move there permanently or something.:OQuote:
Originally Posted by krys
Well if it's anything like Canadian citizenship you are expected to live here for 3 years out of 5 or something like that.