From past threads, I gather that the customer really means what he says when he says, "Come back later."
Later never happens because I become busy and do not have time.
What are polite ways to say, "There will not be a later. I'm booked."?
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From past threads, I gather that the customer really means what he says when he says, "Come back later."
Later never happens because I become busy and do not have time.
What are polite ways to say, "There will not be a later. I'm booked."?
Just explain that you don't have a "later"; or just come up with a cute little saying like "good things come to those who wait, but great things come to those who can't." Just tell them you must be pretty awesome if you're booked all night.
I've actually heard girls say just that with the guy changing his mind on the spot. It may not work on all guys but if a guy decides he's going to want a dance from you, whether it's later or now is irrelevant when he's presented with an all-or-nothing statement like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizette
I would use a similiar line slightly modified --
Good things come to those who wait, but great things, like me, come to those who must have it NOW
or just say that usually you are booked later so they are missing out on something really special with you.
Unfortunately, for me, I do rely on 'coming back later'. Depending on the patron, I will come back later once or three times (three strikes and you're out). Whenever I do come back, I don't do much small talk as I already did that before (developing rapport) and usually just go straight into... "You're ready for some more intimate one on one fun right now, aren't you?"
"I'll try my best to get back around, but I usually stay very busy, I'm a pretty popular girl!"
That usually works for me, then they understand if I don't get back to them.
That's a toughie. I'm not sure how well pushing the sale would work in those circumstances. Usually a "come back later" really does mean that he's not ready yet. A few words aren't going to change that, and pushing it can sometimes be a turn-off.
How reliable are the waitresses at your work? I'd use Paris' line or a variation thereof and also add, "When you're ready, get one of the waitresses to let me know."
It doesn't occur to a lot of guys that they can do that, they have to change mental gears from waitress = drinks only. That way, when they are ready for a dance they don't have to sit and wait for you to come back around (and maybe get snaffled by another dancer in the meantime). Also, once a guy asks somebody to go fetch you, he's committed and will feel obliged to turn down other girls, even if you keep him waiting a little while.
"You're missing your chance as this ass is in HIGH demand!!"
So what if you don't make it back because you're busy....as long as you're busy, its their loss!
It's always their loss! Don't you love the look on their faces when they see you heading to the VIP with a high roller and they for the life of them can not flag you down? Priceless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Katrine
Even if they send a waitress to come fetch me, I damn well am not leaving a high roller.
It's like that time in 1990 when you were considering purchasing stock in Best Buy or 1995 in AOL and thought, "Seems nice. Maybe later." All of a sudden it's 2005 and you're SOL. That's what you get for waiting!
I regret not buying stock. I'm going to tell that story to every "maybe later" guy.
But then you look silly if you aren't busy with other guysQuote:
Originally Posted by Lizette
That's why I don't say that I'm already booked. You look even worse sitting around after having used a line like ''I have someone waiting'' than having said nothing at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Emily
I normally don't have time for ''maybe later'' guys. If I feel they're honest, sure I'll be back. If not, I don't give them time of day (it gets easier to tell when they say it as an alternative to ''no thanks'' instead of actually being undecided). In all honesty, I prefer if a guy says no to maybe later because at least I know I won't need to waste time approaching him again. I may tell them if they want me later, they can find me as I have to offer other people the good stuff and I MAY be busy when he wants me, and sometimes they will look for me.
What I detest (and it ALWAYS happens) is when you ask a guy repeatedly throughout the night and he says ''later'' and 5 minutes to closing time, when you're busy with another dude, they act all hurt when you refuse to dance for them. Screw those asshats.
Yes I would if it were the case. I am ALWAYS busy later. If I were not, I'd be excited to return and sell a dance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Emily
It's hilarious when they complain. "She's so stuck up. Mr. Manager, she talked to me earlier and now won't give me the time of day." Pfft.
I give customers 20 minutes before I hustle. Ample time. If you know I am the dancer you want, buy the time when I offer it. Otherwise, find another dancer ... later ... and enjoy her company.
To avoid looking silly, I make a point to look occupied whether "maybe later" customers are there or not. Looking bored is not a sign of a person having fun.
I have a waitress in my pocket. She's also russian. If a customer is being wishy-washy, she will tell me about that guy waiting in VIP. The guy will tell me to go dance for him, but I will tell him that I wanted to put HIM into priority number one! In exchange I try to order from her as much as possible, throw her 20's, always order a drink, etc.....
This can help expedite the cash flow. Ve russkies are verrry, verrry sneaky! ;)
I'm a big believer that when someone says, "come back later" you should really assume that you need to come back later. There are times this line is used as a blow-off, but in many cases, it's not. When he's saying that to you, you really have no clue as to the reason he's saying it. You truly have no idea if he's waiting for his friends to arrive, may need to use the restroom in a moment, etc., so take it at face value. If you are really so busy that you can't come back later, then don't, but if the club is slow, you absolutely should follow-up. When you do, you should follow-up with a stance of assumption that since he asked you to come back, it's assumed that it's okay to do so. So when you return, you should say something like, "Well, you asked me to come back later and so here I am. I'm glad this is a better time for us to spend together." It forces his hand and holds him responsible for his earlier request.
I'm not a big fan of using sarcastic responses to customers because sarcasm is always perceived as an attack. Use something a bit more subtle and you'll have better results.
Well, then why does it matter when you have other ducks lined up? No need to sit there and talk anyone into anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizette
True, true. The "later" people are clientele I'd like to have. I see that they get upset when I am not there later. I work with dancers who sit around and ignore customers, otherwise they might feel slight sorrow that we were not together but they would be having such a great time with some else that they wouldn't care.Quote:
Originally Posted by Emily
But they aren't having a great time and want me to come back!
No matter how much I want to, I can't come back when regulars are in. The later customers do not wait for me. They usually leave after an hour, pissed off at the experience of being ignored.
*light bulb* At that point, if they aren't having fun, it's not my fault. I guess I can't do anything, can I?
Katrine, your system is fabulous. I've begun to tip the waitress for every little thing they do because spreading the wealth is a good thing. What's $2 to me if they let me know that Joe Customer is in the bathroom when I ask? Last night I asked a waitress where George Customer was sitting. She told me and I handed her $2. She looked surprised. George bought 5 dances.
Your waitress system might work for me with the "later" guys as well! Thank you.
DW, I too have noticed that sarcasm in response to a "no" or "maybe later" looks unbecoming to a stranger. I sincerely hope that I am not offending anyone when I write this: When I see a dancer say, "You don't know what you are missing!" if she didn't sell a dance at that moment, it seems like she has low self-esteem or some other issue, which may or may not be the case. You're right: Sarcasm in the "maybe later" situation might not be the best idea. Coming back later and holding them to their words should be the course of action. (But they really don't know what they're missing! ;D)
In my experiences, later means "no." I just move on and don't look back.
Its also great because we can discuss our strategy right in front of the custy and he has NO idea what we're talking about, he is just enthralled to hear the foreign language. We have lots of good ole boys here....Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizette
Kat (awaiting the day this backfires on her w a russian speaker }:D)
Yup, I find tipping the wait or bar staff for leads yeilds a much better response than tipping a floorman. A waitress or bartender has more interaction with the customers and that means a better idea of who is spending and what kind of dancer they are or appear to be into.
Plus waitresses don't seem to get the whole entitled attitude that some bouncer/floorman get... in my experience they are much better team players.