How much do you tip out for multiple vip hours when the host brings you the customer?
For 3 hours =$1600 to the dancer, what would you tip the person who sent you the custie?
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How much do you tip out for multiple vip hours when the host brings you the customer?
For 3 hours =$1600 to the dancer, what would you tip the person who sent you the custie?
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if it was because of that person that you met the customer and knew he was a big spender, and especially if he's a host who can and will hook you up in the future....tip big. I would say 25%ish.
25% of $1,600 is $400!!!That's a bit much.10-15% sounds more like it.Everytime she gets a VIP like that and tips out 25%,it'll start to add up.Just my opinion.
$1600-400 is $1200
Don't be cheap or he wont choose you again and you will just have to wish for a $1200/night.
What's important is what you walk out the door with at the end of the night.
I'm not saying be cheap,but don't give the guy too much either.There's a happy medium with tipping the floorman that helped you out.I just think 25% is a little excessive.
I thought 25% is a lot too. But last time I was stingy with my host's tip it costed me a LOT in the long run.
What is everyone else tipping out in the more expensive clubs?
I think 20% if they get you the room is fair.
OTB has a point that $400 is a whole lot of money. The person who referred the customer to you would be absolutely floored to receive that amount and would love you forever and ever and send more and more customers your way. I'm more of a 20% gal. 10-15% would make them happy too.
the vip host should not be making 400 a girl. thats absurd.
If they're lazy and put zero effort into helping the sale, then $400 is insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by amylynnej
$400 is insane either way.We're the ones that have to babysit and fight off the guy for at least an hour.
I'd give $200-$400-- Low end if he just happened to luck up on a rich contact, and high end if he can always send that kind of money my way.... A good sales,/marketing/scouting partner would be a mjor asset in the club.
But if I had to deal w/ crap because of it --ie he tells the customer that I'll provide extra's or date him than I would tip around $3-400 as much, but I'd let him know what he problem was
id give him like 50 bucks.
^^ Damn Ive never seen a night like that or even heard of one here in CA :(
Most Ive ever heard a girl say was 1300.
And then he would never send another customer your way again. I consider a 20% perfectly acceptable for hooking you up with the customer--he has essentially made the sale without you having to do it. If all he does is say, "Hey, that guy has some money," then you go sell him yourself, feel free to tip less. But if you want to hand $50 to the guy who just saw you make $1600, don't expect him to ever do you another favor.
KD, I still want to know what your beef with was with the VIP host at your club.
maybe 10% I could see 15% but Im not tipping him 400 bucks. Thats insane.
It's not "insane," it's a very good tip. Now, 3 hours in the champagne room in my club would only net me a base of $960 after credit card fees and what I consider an obligatory 10% tipout regardless of what the host did, so I would happily hand over $400 for the same amount of time in order to ensure myself $1200.
that guy would be making more than we do and that would be wrong. plus most vip hosts only do it so they can get girls for their outcall services. I dont trust them.
Yes he makes more thanthe dancers. That was my problem too. If he walks every night with $2000+, I don't want to be a part of that.
But I have been starved out of my present club because if a tipping issue. So now I give up and I just want to know whats average for other girls.
Basically I really fucked up when I was new and he put me in the VIP for an hour for $500 (my take) and I only gave him $30. But that wasn't even 10%, and now I know that was an insult.... so I want to know what's fair.
I end up tipping out between 20 and 50 % depending on how good or bad the shift was that night. I feel that 20 % is quite fair but more than 30% I feel ripped off.
OK there is no goddammed way I will pay up to 50%. 20-25% maximum, and I don't even like that.
If someone just says: "hey that guy over there has money", and I make a ton of money (at least $400) I'll give them $20. If they convince the guy that I'm the best thing since sliced bread, I'll give them $100 if I make at least $800.
My club does not encourage high tip-outs (although one DJ thinks he should be making more when we make more - even though he doesn't do anything to help dancers. I guarantee you he gets $5-$10 a night from me no matter how much money I make), nor do I. I would much rather hustle on my own than have someone do any work for me other than announce my name and play my music. I'm the one that has to dance and entertain the guy, push his hands off of me, etc... for $20-30 a song, so I'm not about to hand over 20% of any of my earnings.
The only person who I've ever tipped more than 10% consistently was a bartender, but she is no longer there. Why? Because one night, she "sold" me to a custy and refused to let me tip her since I had already convinced him to tip her 20% off of a $700 dance tab, and again off of his drink tab. So I knew she wasn't some greedy chick with her hand out - it made me want to tip her even more!!
I prefer to have the custy tip the floor guy or waitress instead of coming out of my own pocket.
I would love to be your floorman,in that case.50%???Are you serious???As far as tipping more than 30% and feeling ripped off,no one is making you tip that much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fearless Fairy
Agreed 150%,LOL!!!:PQuote:
Originally Posted by Amethyst
For VIP stuff I always try to get the custy to tip, as Amethyst said. But for someone working and selling for me? 20% is reasonable in my mind. I always tip well and I always get turned onto or "sold" to the spenders at my clubs... makes good in the long run.
If someone brings me over to a table and says, "Here's Susan, who I was telling you about," and the customer turns out to be really generous, I feel obligated to thank them financially, whether waitress, floorguy, or dancer. If they are a VIP host and they help convince the guy to get another hour or something, then yeah, they deserve a little extra than their normal cut. But if a waitress or manager just says, "Hey, those guys just took out a bunch of cash on their tab," and I sell myself, then yeah, a $20 or something is thanks enough.
I mean, if you really don't ever want to tip someone for turning you on to spenders or helping you get into or stay in VIP, then don't. Work for yourself. Just don't expect them to ever think of you when a customer asks, "Which of the girls here tonight are really hot/fun/give good dances?" and don't expect them to say anything except "Time's up" when your session has expired and you're trying to keep your customer spending.
by the way, this is all really dependent on what type of club you are in. At my crappy dive in Texas, waitresses would get thrilled when I would toss them a couple of bucks for telling me a customer was waiting. And there really are no hourly rooms in Austin, so it's not a factor there. In Columbus it's way more of a factor as customers are likely to ask a floorguy for details about the skybox (hence allowing him to comment on who is more fun up there), so it makes more of a difference.