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Sizing up customer by his drink...
When I first went to a SC the first dancer that approached me got my attention. Eventually (many, mnay nights later) I asked why she decided to try and sit with me--not an obvious choice by any stretch!--she said it was because I wasn't drinking beer/that I had a mixed drink.
In fact it was only a coke, not a rum & coke since I don't drink, but I've always been curious if she was onto something there.
Is an effective part of profiling a customer seeing what he's drinking?
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i usually go up to guys who have a drink before guys who don't, whether it's beer OR a mixed drink, because they are usually (in my own experience) more friendly and willing to buy a dance. i drink at work so it's more of an icebreaker for both of us. a lot of the times if i go up to a guy who is empty handed he is either reserved/nervous or just there for the eye candy and doesn't want any dances. but of course this is not always the case. but yes, for the most part i choose to first approach the guys with a drink in front of them (even if it IS just coke!).
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Originally Posted by FemmeFatale
yes, for the most part i choose to first approach the guys with a drink in front of them (even if it IS just coke!).
I hate it when dancers are asking me for lap dances before the waitress has even gotten to me... so yes, please let me get a drink first, relax, and then I will be more willing...
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I'm saddened to say that this occurs in clubs all the time, and its a tactical mistake for a dancer to do this, in much the same way its a tactical mistake to do it based on how the customer is dressed.
I only drink soda or juice, (and I drink it because I don't drink at all, not because soda or juice is cheaper) so I often get overlooked. Whipping out the tiproll usually solves the problem, but I really shouldn't have to resort to that.
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I'm always into the guy drinking juice, soda or bottled water. if a girl is overlooking these men, she is making a huge mistake because it's obvious he's not there for booze. Anyone that would spend $4 on a non-alcoholic drink is okay in my book.
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Some of my best customers have been non-alcoholic drinkers, so I rarely pay attention to the type of drink they have. If I'm eyeing a person who doesn't have a drink, I'll stop by, introduce myself, ask him if he'd like me to grab a waitress for him, and then tell him to make himself comfy/enjoy his night.
Most of the time, I get invited to sit down then or invited back for dances.
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Agree with Emily and Amythyst.
This is Texas, beer drinkin country. Just because he's drinking a Miller doesn't mean he doesn't have $$$ to spend............
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If I had to judge someone by their drink, I'm less likely to go to a Miller guy. It's the cheapest drink per ounce, so the "nursers" choose it. I also assume "cheapskate" on a guy who has a mixed drink that's all melted for the same reason.
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i always aviod the draft beer drinker, cheep to buy a pitcher and share.
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if you judge a customer by what he drinks, you may miss out on customers who may not drink or drink even non-alcoholic for a variety of reasons who may have a bankroll.
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I don't buy drinks because I would much rather spend the money on the dancers. Also, I don't buy them because I would like to remember my night out, not have to try to piece together what happened in a drunken haze. I usually bring in a bottle of water and 2 Diet Mountain Dews. Sometimes, if one of the dancers I know pretty well gets thirsty, I offer her one of my drinks (one that's not opened, of course). I have lost several Mountain Dews that way. :'(
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This is stereotyping, and as the old adage goes, "NEVER JUDGE A BOOK BY IT'S COVER".
Other issues should come to play "IF" it is neccesary to avoid one customer in order to talk to another than what he is drinking.
Heterosexual guys whether blue collar or white collar have one thing in common, their attraction for women.
Amy Lynne makes perfect sense.
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As a custy, I only drink water or beer, since I usually drive to the clubs.
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In our business, you have to judge a book by its cover. It's jsut not possible to invest the proper amount of time with every customer.
I wish there was a fool-proof test, but cues from first impressions are all we've got!
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i'm not "judging a book by its cover" - i'm simply saying that i go FIRST to guys with drinks.....
then i go to the ones who don't have a drink. of course you have to go to ALL the guys, but you have to start SOMEWHERE. so drink guys work better in that respect for me. but that's just me. sometimes i don't even pay attention to drinks, but since i drink at work myself it's a bit more natural to go up to guys who are drinking. it's not formulaic or anything. my club is like a bar with tits. so it makes a bit more sense.
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Originally Posted by pet_rock
When I first went to a SC the first dancer that approached me got my attention. Eventually (many, mnay nights later) I asked why she decided to try and sit with me--not an obvious choice by any stretch!--she said it was because I wasn't drinking beer/that I had a mixed drink.
In fact it was only a coke, not a rum & coke since I don't drink, but I've always been curious if she was onto something there.
Is an effective part of profiling a customer seeing what he's drinking?
I think some of the most idiotic things a dancer can do is judge a customer based on his watch/drink/shoes, etc. Image is NOT and indicator of a custy's expenditure. Not at all. And in my few years dancing, I can tell you that this is true.
Some customers are driving and so cannot drink alcohol and will only drink soft drinks or may have come into the club straight from a shopping trip/work and therefore haven't had time to dress up. Another may be that they just plain don't like wearing suits and prefer their roughed-up attire as they feel more comfortable (I've heard that one a few times).
Age also isn't an indicator either. I had a guy come into the club and I swore he wasn't past 25 at the most! The guy spent a very considerable amount of money on me to satisfy a very tame fetish of his. Honestly, my friend who'd danced for him before me had shrugged him off after two dances because she thought he was young and spent.
In fact, although I won't avoid them, men who flaunt money (buy the most expensive drinks, are in powersuits, etc) can be the biggest dicks to walk the earth and a lot of girls flock to them. Recently I politely approached a group of investement bankers and I hadn't been spoken to so rudely for nor reason in such a long time.
Appearances and such can be deceiving. Don't fall for the obvious signs. Some men do this to attract the most dancers to their table without having to spend a dime. Trust me on that.
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I don't think anyone is saying that guys who don't "look the part" can't be spenders. And I think the opposite of guys drinking non-alcoholic drinks, as I stated above. I go to these guys FIRST! They are goldmines.
But all else being equal, who do you appraoch? You have to look for visual cues. It's not all what he's wearing or drinking, but these are helpful. There is always the diamond in the rough, but I just don't have that kind of time to spend 5-10 minutes for every guy that other dancers passed over.
I agree on the guys flaunting it, this is especially true for the "ballers" who are drenched in jewelry and for guys who make it a point to show you how many hundreds they have when they give you a $1.
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I avoid guys who come in and make a conspicous show of ordering Cristal or Dom on the main floor and begging girls to come over. Chances are, 3 guys split the bottle and are using the image as bait for girls to sit around for free. And it seems to work too, sad thing.
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Yes. Guys who drink something other than cheap beer usually have more money to spend. More often than not. The ones who don't drink at all often make the best targets cuz they're usually there strictly for dances and aren't drunk and stupid. HOWEVER! The ones who buy bottles of champagne on the main floor are usually just trying to make a show and DON'T usually spend much (if anything) on the girls - and/or are such a pain in the ass, whatever they do spend isn't worth the hassle.
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Originally Posted by Katrine
I avoid guys who come in and make a conspicous show of ordering Cristal or Dom on the main floor and begging girls to come over. Chances are, 3 guys split the bottle and are using the image as bait for girls to sit around for free. And it seems to work too, sad thing.
It always depends of course,but here in Va the crystal is 500 a bottle and i think the dom is close to that also.
If im in the dj booth and i see a bottle sold,I spot the first three dancers i can find and send them over,I will usually try to make sure its at least one 5%er in the three.
I dont care if its one guy or three guys splitting it.
You spend 500 off the bat at any club im at in the world,your at least going to get my attention and the first 3 entertainers i can break free.
If the first three strike out,and you buy another bottle,im going to be sending 3 more over to you,with at least two of them being 5%ers.
I dont care if you buy lapdances or not.
I dont even care if you dont tip the stage girls.
You spend a grand in the club and you got my attention,and you also helped pay the light bill so these girls have a place to call home the next night,im ok witcha.:)
I would also suggest to any house dancer that if the top shelf bottle is sold over the counter,you should be close behind it.
Yea alot of rich guys can be dicks,but for the most part,if they pay for the 500 dollar drinks,it means they have bank and are there to spend it.
There may not be a noticable difference between the guys who drink beer or mixed drinks,but the gap between the guys who drink those or juice as oposed to the guy buying the 500 dollar top shelf chit is fuckin huge.
Just the view from my booths
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ORDERING A DRINK (Memo to a Customer)
Make it short and sweet. The longer you take ordering while the waitress is there causes a log jam inhibiting you from being the man you think you are.
Complaining about drink prices in a strip bar is like complaining about not getting across the border American in a pot-leafed "legalize it" shirt.
Why I hate it:
If you are losing your bald coconuthead over a $1.50 you're not exactly going to be peeling out the dead Presidents, Ambassadors, Secretaries for my perfect bod and ass.
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Originally Posted by BigGreenMnM
Yea alot of rich guys can be dicks,but for the most part,if they pay for the 500 dollar drinks,it means they have bank and are there to spend it.
Yeah, but if they're doing this on the main floor before any girls have come over, they're ALMOST ALWAYS not there to spend ON THE GIRLS. They're there to look cool and get free attention from girls, and usually behave like major creeps in the process. If I worked with you and you sent me to these assholes, I'd warn ya once, and if you did it again I'd take their bottle of Cristal and knock your ass out with it.
Those jerks can spend their life savings on Cristal for all I care, I'll be back in the corner lapdancing my way to the bank for the nice gentlemen drinking soda or water, or perhaps a martini :P
Btw, Cristal costs minimum $500 in any club I've been in the last few years. It ain't just VA hun ;)
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heck Ive seen guys order water and tip hundreds. you never know.
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Originally Posted by Bridgette
Yeah, but if they're doing this on the main floor before any girls have come over, they're ALMOST ALWAYS not there to spend ON THE GIRLS.
so???
They spent 500.
I ment it when i said I dont care if he tips or gets lapdances from all the girls.
He spent 500 bucks,the waitress or bartender will get the bonus,your support staff,let them(and the club we call home)make the money this time.
+1 for the club and the support staff who gets credit for the sale,or at least a tip off it.
Many times from what i have seen,they buy off the top shelf to attract the top shelf.
They want the 1 or 2 in 30 girls that are there.
That means right off the bat,28-29 girls are going to think he sucks as a custie.
1 or 2 of the girls are going to really like this guy.
if you take a vote,this type custie is going to suck,except for those 1 or 2 girls.
And that really sucks for those 1 or 2 girls,cause the money is usually big.
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They're there to look cool and get free attention from girls, and usually behave like major creeps in the process.
Every man who walks into a strip club,to include me up untill about a year ago,is trying to look as kewl and as inviting as possible.
Think new rooster in the hen house.
They even walk with thier chest out and with a strut!!!!
lol its a riot.
The really funny thing is,when a guy walks into a strip club for the first time,he isnt really trying to look kewl for the girls,he is trying to look kewl to all the other guys that are there!!!!!!!!
How fucking gay is that!!!!!
Im the only man on the face of the earth who doesnt care if he looks like a dork walking thru the door.
Belive that!lolol
And if,in my old age,I thought i even had a REMOTE chance of tappin one of the girls i work with,I to would show up like snoopy in his joe cool glasses.
But I dont,so I dont,but every other guy does.
Bank on that.
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If I worked with you and you sent me to these assholes, I'd warn ya once, and if you did it again I'd take their bottle of Cristal and knock your ass out with it.
Alas,im not as perfect as my legends possibly suggest,im right more around 80-90% of the time.;)
If I send you to a table,its cause my pee pee is hard from the smell of money.
Our money!!!lolol
In my prime,girls would make excuses to end lapdances to follow my leads!!lololol
I didnt fuck around,and i didnt waste the time of my 5%ers.
If i pull a lure from my tacklebox,its to land a big fish.If all i was fishin for was pan fryers or bottom feeders,i would have just used the worms.
We have all seen your pictures(admit it guys!!!),your card would not have been delt till after the 2nd bottle I promise.
And I promise,you would have hooked my big fish if i bothered to tie you on the line.
If the first three failed,my ego would have sent in the Rio's,the heathers,the isis,the athenas,the dreamers,and the Miss B's.
If we ever got to the point of you want to hit me with a bootle of crystal,and not buy me one every night,there would be a problem,and it would be my job to fix it.
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LMAO BG. I've seen waaay more of those guys than I care to admit, and as my previous post suggests, they sit and treat the other girls like shit so I just keep truckin right on by. Can't be bothered. Besides, I manage to keep myself more than busy enough to not waste time on these dudes.
As for letting the house and support staff make their money, I'm all for it. Let em. GREAT! But that doesn't mean I'm gonna waste my time on a table of assholes just so the bar can sell some Cristal and the waitress can get a fat tip. In that case, the waitress and bar better be givin ME a fat cut!