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Re: Sizing up customer by his drink...
In many states nude clubs cannot serve alcoholic beverages, so juice or soda or bottled water or O'Douls is the only libation available.
If you are in a topless/alcohol club, does it make any difference if the guy is dring top shelf at $6 a glass, or soda at $3/glass? No glass at all sometimes means no money or it means just got here. Or it means I've had too much liquid and I'm floating away.
Don't you think you ought to get a feel for the guy rather than size him up by what is in his glass. Just too many extraneous factors to mess up your calculus in this people game.
Why not directly ask up front something like ... "Hi, handsome, if we hit it off good here, would you be set up to buy some dances from me? Or would you like to see me onstage first or have a table dance instead? "
That asks him if he's attracted to you enough, and if he brought in some cash. Sometimes hints can come by seeing him eyeing you etc.... If he seems interested in you and your palaver, you can now completely ignore his drink. He is.
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The drink is only ONE thing among MANY we use to size custies up before going in for the kill, relayer. To be sure, ALL OTHER THINGS BEING EQUAL, the drink can make the difference between me sliding right into his lap or giving him nothing but the breeze from my swishing ass as I walk by. But yeah, there are many variables and the drink is just ONE.
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I think there is something about the mixed drink or (Cola that looks like a mixed drink) over beer. I always order a vodka and orange juice because with a good vodka it doesn't linger on your breath.
I am also allergic to barley, according to my allergy tests. This has been one bad sumemr for allergies and mold for me. However I can drink Miller with a congestion effect. I finally asked a beer guy why. He said Miller is the only American beer brewed with Rice and not Barley. So it really is different in its brewing with Bud or the other popular beers.
(I am not a Miller or Vodka employee nor do I own stock in SAB Miller or Grey Goose Marketig Co. or any vodka company, producer or organization.)- Disclaimer
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Yes, Bridgette, but this a thread about sizing up someone by his drink.
It reminds me of a ballplayer going thru some odd ritual in hopes that the baseball gods will remember him and let him play up to his usual standards. It probably isnt that, but it does remind me of that thought pattern.
I've heard that his shoes may well be a very good indicator of his available cash. Or even how well-managed his hair is. But, what do I know; I've never had to test it myself.
< where's that durned tongue in cheek emoticon? >
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Word to the wise fellas. All our crabbing about this on the board isn't going to make dancers in clubs stop making these snap judgments.
If you see a hot gal at a club that you absolutely must have a dance from, put this "the dancer should aproach me" mantra to rest, get off your tail, and go ask her. I have yet to meet a dancer who had a problem with a customer taking the guesswork out of her job.
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Originally Posted by Bridgette
Yes. Guys who drink something other than cheap beer usually have more money to spend. More often than not. The ones who don't drink at all often make the best targets cuz they're usually there strictly for dances and aren't drunk and stupid. HOWEVER! The ones who buy bottles of champagne on the main floor are usually just trying to make a show and DON'T usually spend much (if anything) on the girls - and/or are such a pain in the ass, whatever they do spend isn't worth the hassle.
Hit the nail right on the head. Geez, are you a pro or something? ;)
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OMFG relayer! Yeah it's a thread about drinks. NO ONE ever said it's the ONLY indicator we look at!!!!!!!!!! ::) Please realize - when we see you in a club we're not going to make our decision whether to approach you or not just based on what you're drinking! ayayay
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Based on all this talk about trying to find out what a dewd will be a good prospect for the night, just by watching what he is drinking, I don't know. There is way too much hustle and bustle in the clubs I 've worked. Poor lighting, flashing lights, loud and lousy music, heck I cane't tell what the dumbass is drinking until I am too close and then its too damn late.
He looks, he smiles, and then what the world am I suppose to do then, Sorry, charlie, it was a mistake? I thought you were someboy else?
Oh for crying out loud, I got other factors to judge the dewds with. Appearance and mannersims for two.
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I would prefer to ask the dancer rather than have all of them ask me. Or try to outguess me about my preferences or shoe size or color of my drink whatever. They start making the "wanna dance" rounds when the guys play "shy" or are reluctant to spend any more than dollar bills. Almost never have I gone to a club when I did not plan to spend some money on a VIP room dance. Though many times I am not thirsty until after I have gone through a sequence of hot dances. This works if I know what I want as soon as I walk in the door before the waitress has to tell me about the drink minimum. I go there for the female company, not to fill my belly. (Anyway I rarely drink anything alcoholic, that chemical taste you know. And I know I am not alone. Further I prefer the non-bar clubs as I do not appreciate drunken behavior by the patrons.)
I am trying to help keep this thread on topic.
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Well, as said, the non-drinking (at least not alcohol ;) ) customers are often the best targets, so there ya go.
Shady, it's already been said - the drink is only ONE criteria of the MANY used to scope out the 'dewds'.
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Something that always worked for me was to find a great waitress and she would keep us informed with who was ordering/tipping well, I'm a big believer that if a guy doesn't tip the waitress decent then he's sure as hell not going to shell out some twenties....
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Originally Posted by Crissychan
Something that always worked for me was to find a great waitress and she would keep us informed with who was ordering/tipping well, I'm a big believer that if a guy doesn't tip the waitress decent then he's sure as hell not going to shell out some twenties....
I like that idea much better from a 'stands to reason' point of view.
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What a man (or for that case a woman) drinks is a really a reflection of his/her personality. It only confirms what other personality factors indicate. But as far as assessing his financial staus, it is sometimes misleading.
Some moderate income people may have very expnesive tastes, and some wealthy people may have cheap tastes.
But talking to custys about drinks is a great "ice breaker", if you will, because it really leads to a truer assesment of ther real financiall worth. But this, again, is not reliable, because some moderate people again spend inordinately.
My opton is to not to rely on drinks but the way the custy or is it custie? carries his or herself. That is all.
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Many custies will spend on waitress but not dancers, or dancers but not waitresses, or bouncers but not girls or girls but not bouncers, etc. Judging by whether he tips elsewhere can be misleading. This really just drives home the point that, while drinks can be a good indication of customers' potential spending habits, there are many other factors and we're better served to look at as many as possible when scoping them out.
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What a man (or for that case a woman) drinks is a really a reflection of his/her personality. It only confirms what other personality factors indicate.
Oh, this is interesting. I have to sit back for this one...
CO, exclusive SC drinker of Grey Goose and tonic, CO
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Why do I fear that some custies are going to try to strategize off this thread about what drink will make them more (or perhaps deliberately less) approachable? Let's recap the approachability quotient of a custy according to drink.
Discourage approach: Miller
Severely discourage approach: Nurse a Miller; tear at label of bottle
Encourage approach: Non-alcoholic drink
Exception to above: Root beer float or Slushie
Encourage approach: Mixed drink
Diminished draw: Suck on ice cubes from mixed drink
Get deejay excited enough to strip for you himself: Crystal, Dom
-Ev
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Originally Posted by evan_essence
Get deejay excited enough to strip for you himself: Crystal, Dom
-Ev
heheheheheheheh
ok thats fuckin funny!!!!!
because its sooooooooooo true!!!!!!!!!
I see a bottle of crystal going across the counter,I know 1-2 of my girls are gonna freeeekin bank,maybe more!!!Could be an electric payment or even a rent check!!!
It might be none of the dancers and the only girl to get money off the sale is the waitress or bartender,im still freekin stoaked!(because of what it will do to the heartbeat of the room,and all the dancers/custies.)
Money in the room is still money in the room,and in alot of clubs,its the highest ticket item on the consumables menu.
It acts like a steak being tossed into a shark tank.
The bar has just been raised for every table that can see the bottle.
Custie ego,grab it by the tail and fuck it proper ladies!!!!
I know a custie wont admit it,but I have heard a few say the girl that was sitting with them "had to go thru the line up past the table".
If the custie was spending up to the bar that the bottle caused,she wouldnt have moved a freekin muscle.
The girls NOT involved in a business transaction get up,the others dont.
The funny thing is,before the girl gets up and walks away,all the custie has to say is,"lets go do lapdances".Its not like the girl isnt hinting it or even downright saying"save me from this,buy a lapdance".
The girls dont want to do the line up,as i have said,MOST wont get picked.
She walked away because the custie let her walk away.
Either way,she wasnt making money,and the "chance"was better for her then what she was doing,basically sitting there NOT making money.
You try being the manager and telling a girl who is making money to "get up"on a "chance"to make money.
lol!!!
It could get you killed!!LOLOLOL
Count the next 10 bottles of crystal you see.(4 bottles to one table counts as 1.)
Then count the times someone makes money.
Im guessing 80% of the time a dancer makes decent money.
Im guessing 95% of the time a waitress or bartender makes decent money.
Im not guessing,owners make money 100% of the time.(the mark up on that piss water is insane!!!)
Now lets just say your NOT the dancer the guy wants.
Most of the girls that night WONT be as I have said.
Those girls can sit in the dressing room and bitch because there is no money,or whine the girl the bottle buyer got does extras and that why he picked her,etc etc,they should be targeting the new PRIME fucking targets in the room,CAUSED by the bottle.
Its the guys sitting in the tables around the guy with the bottle!!!!
And now its an ego thing,and it can be used to its fullest advantage at the tables surrounding the bottle!!!!!
They will buy dancers drinks,they will buy lapdances,they will write poems to you backwards if you want,they CANT say NO!!!!!
In many aspects of this game,its an auction,the girls go with the highest bidders.yes many good ones can juggle alot of them in the room at the same time,but for the most part imo,if its two great custies,the dancer is going with the one who is spending the most money.(at least she fuckin should imo)
The bottle of crystal is a great opening bid custies.Use it often if you can.
All this brought to you by the guy who bought the crystal.
Gimmie a club with 5 bottles at different tables,we got us a party folks!!!!
Crystal and Dom are so different then the differences between beer and mixed drinks debate,its in a league of its own and borders on being off topic!!!LOLOL
Yea i might strip if asked!LOLOLOLOL
Sorry ev for piggy backin on your humor filled post with my views from the booth,nothin aimed at you.:)
There is a reason the bottle is there and is rudely expensive.
Maybe someone can explain it in book learnin style so it makes sense.
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BigGreen I swear you sound like a DJ I knew, He called it the kid complex.... every guy there wants to toys the other guys have..... So seeing that getting a bottle gets Table A & B so many girls.... it becomes the domino effect.
Great Job!
P.S. I've yet to find a custy that actually likes the taste a champage or can honestly tell the difference from a $125-500. That just proves they're buying for the women!
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Grey Goose: Casual Obseervers drink
$29.99 for 750 milliliters; 80 proof
French; distilled from wheat, rye, and barley
Made in Cognac but owned by the American Bacardi Corp., Grey Goose was introduced in the United States in 1997 and has since won a great many industry awards. We were underwhelmed: Grey Goose is sweet and smoky, with hints of anise and citrus in the finish, but it all adds up to only a sort of smooth, uninteresting neutrality. And so, while the more generous half of our panel praised Grey Goose's "long, silky aftertaste" and "pleasing burn," detractors found it "bland," "spineless," and "vaguely medicinal." In the end, seven tasters agreed that the vodka's softness and subtlety made it a solid, if unremarkable, choice. Four found it to be too unremarkable and lacking the bite or character they expected from a self-described "ultra-premium" spirit.
Final Verdict: "Leaves a bit too much to the imagination."
Grade: Three Shot Glasses
Still a fine drink to talk around a bar with. Thanks.
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vodka is peasent rot gut.
Might as well drink bathtub gin.
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I dont consider a non drinking customer a strike out. I LOOK AT 2 THINGS......
Do you offer to buy me a drink when the waitress asks if "you would like anything"?
If so, What do you tip her?
If these strike out , you are not interested in me or you are cheap! I move on.
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I know it's wrong to stereotype, but in (most) of my experience... mixed drinks cost more money than beer. Therefore, this person has / is spending more money tonight. Period. It's like,... logic.
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In my experience it doesn't matter at all what I'm drinking relative to my reception from dancers. Sometimes you can't even see the drink or tell what it is, anyway. (I usally drink premium beers, but sometimes just ice water.) I think the money that a guy spends on dances and at the stage, and how nice and well groomed he is, makes a lot more of a difference - if one can be determined at all.
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The fact that the presumptions made in this thread are all over the board just confirms that this method of finding a money customer is ridiculously unreliable.
::)
Some of you could probably sell just as many dances going "inni, minni, minny, moe".