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Wanna Dance? Wanna Dance?
What if you work in a club where the SOP is "wanna dance?" "wanna dance?"...so much volumn, theres not much time to hang out with a cusy and chit chat...How can I walk around and sell some dances with out having to say "wanna dance?"
I know custys hate this usually...but thats what EVERYOB=NE does in my place...time for another club? :O
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if the customers are doing dances, then why change a good thing? Chit chat is just to sell dances.
Get them back for a dance and then talk to them. :D
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Yeah, I had to adjust from a time and company environment to a high volume fast hustle environment when I moved to AZ, and it was a little weird at first but once I saw how easy it was to sell dances it was no problem. If it's a high volume club where all or most girls do the "wannadance" and the guys are buying, just go with it!
I still do a tiny bit of chatting before popping the question at my high volume club, just because I simply cannot stand the "wannadance" thing. I just keep the chat to the basics, and when the 1st song is ending, I ask if I can dance for him. Alot of guys like that and buy from me because of it; it's different from most girls' approach and I appear more friendly. Also, since it's so high volume, many guys tend to base their buying decisions solely on looks and/or stage performance, so I set myself apart with costume, dancing and music - this way I often don't have to do much hustling (sometimes none) to keep busy lapdancing all night.
High volume clubs are a whole different ballgame but with some minor adjustments to your hustle they can be really easy money!
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Prefer to make eye contact, and move on from there. But sometimes due to competition, and just like you say, sheer volume, have to do things some other way.
First size your custie up, walk up behind him, put your arm around him, breath deeply, and say "Yeah, babe, yeah, My man, my man!!" and start giggiing. Dances come short after that.
Lord, it sounds corny and I hated doing this crap, but most of the time it worked.
I cannot believe the gullibility of some of the men who fell to this routine.
I can't guarrantee the success of this routine, because it also depends on the way the dancer delivers her message and the way the custie receives it not to mention legal conditions. (Touching allowed in the club, is it legal?)
It is better to make eye contact first, if they are intersted in you, you can tell,and can start moving towards them, or they will come towards you.
Regardless of the variety of techniques used, it all comes down to the very samee poiint,
"Wanna dance?"
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i would love to find such a wanna - dance club...usually they want me to sit down with them, buy me a drink and blah ,but time is $............. where are this mentioned clubs? phoenix? which ones? thanks!
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Try using body language to ask for a dance. Walk up to the customer and hold your hand out to him. If you need to move to a different location to, when he takes your hand, nod your head in the direction of the dance area and begin leading him there.
If dances occur anywhere in the room at your club simply straddel your customer, facing him, and ask if he is ready to see you with your clothes off now.
Come up with cute new lines. If they fall flat, admit it was cheesy and go back to asking for the dance. Guys love it when I say something cheesy, and follow up with "I'm the cheesy-line dancer, but I am great naked and crawling all over you!!"
I was in a high volume situation on Thursday, and I actually told a guy that I would love to talk to him, but we were so busy that if he wasn't going to get a dance I had to move on (he had been trying to impress me with how cool he was before agreeing to the dance). I cut him off mid sentence... well he said yes and we did 3 dances before he realized that you don't have to impress the strippers with anything but money ;)
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If you work at the place I think you do, then "wanna dance" is all you need to do. The customers there know what they want, and if it's you, they'll buy. If not, don't be offended.
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Originally Posted by Cristalla
i would love to find such a wanna - dance club...usually they want me to sit down with them, buy me a drink and blah ,but time is $............. where are this mentioned clubs? phoenix? which ones? thanks!
LOL! Uhm, since I'm the one who started this thread, I only can assume youre asking me....READ MY SCREEN NAME.... :laughing:
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yes.. tampa :) what clubs though,,,and another post mentioned phoenix
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Cant speak specifically for other clubs, but Mons Venus is where I work and that's how its pretty much done over there ;)
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ooooooooh, yeah, Mons Venus is like one of those places guys make a point to stop at when they are in Tampa just to get couch dances.
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"Wanna dance" is usually fine by me. I prefer this method, as opposed to the fake chit-chat at usually comes before the inevitable ask for a lapdance.
The only exception is the small talk I expect if we have met and you've danced for me before.
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just ask if they are ready for you.
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Every club is different. I've worked in some clubs that you do the "wannadance", I've worked in other clubs where you have to sit and chit chat for a couple songs and then ask for a dance, and I' ve worked in clubs where you sell your time, and conversation, and focus less on selling dances, you just have to feel every club out, so if your club is a "wannadance" club then don't feel uncomfortable about asking custy's if they "wannadance".
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"Let's go!"
"You're up!"
"I couldn't help notice you staring at my ass, let's dance!"
Or, just point and nod. If his face shows approval, jump into the lap.
If I'm wearing my "I heart porn" shirt, I say, "let's make a porno!"
Never come up behind a customer. For every one that it works on, you'll have a bunch more that are just annoyed by it...
Those are my primary high volume lines.
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i dotn know why im asking this....it seems too obvious, but here goes...why not come up behind someone? ive noticed that i do it sometimes and get bad results...i dont do it intentionally, just depends on how crowded the club is....what about it annoys men so bad? /:O
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I absolutely hate it when they come up behind me (1) it catches me offguard - I am basically a predatory animal anyhow and that behavior is like something an enemy would do (2) reminds me of my x wife as this is what she would do a lot to catch me doing something - if yer trying to make money from a customer u don't wanna emulate his x wife's bad behavior. Dancers that make eye contact with me first giving me a chance to smile back or the ones I like sitting at my table.
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I dunno, it never bothered me. I love being surprised by fingertips on my shoulder neck. It establishes a level of contact that puts me at a relaxed state.
Hey D. Not everyone had an Exwife with good reason to find out why her checking account is dying due to repetitious hundered dollar debits.
:D
::Mast::
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Dancers that make eye contact with me first giving me a chance to smile back
I think eye contact is they key, which is why coming up from behind may not be the best approach, if it is avoidable. Some guys I used to club with would always say "avoid eye contact" when a dancer they were not interested in was coming at the table. For me, when I look directly at a dancer, I am checking her out, and if she looks back, smiles, winks, or looks interested in me, the rest is easy. Once I got a look back, a smile, a wink, and she made a really funny face, that got 6 dances, and I am going back for more when I get the chance. :D
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How about:
Hey, wanna come in the back and touch me and then give me a chance to jack your wallet?"
or
"You look like a guy with a really small penis... Feel like.... compensating for anything?"
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Not to get smart here, but generally eye contact is the best approach. In normal circumstances. but in high volume situations, there is a bit of a problem. I only have two eyes in my head, and both my eyes move in the direction I point them in. Maybe if I were cross eyed, I could kill two custies with one glance.
Yeah, sort of like Medusa, who could turn men into stone with one angry glance.
On the serious side, eye contact is the about the only approach. Don't really like to make body contact unless you are sure that the custie is gonna take you bait. When he does, heck, reel him in. But be gentle.
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Originally Posted by DancerNTampa
i dotn know why im asking this....it seems too obvious, but here goes...why not come up behind someone? ive noticed that i do it sometimes and get bad results...i dont do it intentionally, just depends on how crowded the club is....what about it annoys men so bad? /:O
The problem for me is that I don't have eyes back there, so I can't see you approaching. If you can't see my eyes it makes it considerably harder to gauge whether or not I'm interested in having you sit down.
Also a dancer approaching me from behind is outside my field of attention, as I'm usually concentrated on someone in front of me. Because of this, I usually feel more startled than I do relaxed when someone lays a hand on my shoulder. (Even with the waitresses this applies).
Ladies, always try to approach tables from an angle where the custy can see you coming towards him from a distance. Sometimes how you carry yourself in those few moments before you get to a a table makes a difference in whether you will pick up that patron's gaze or not. Please walk slowly and gracefully as you do this. If look like you're in a hurry on your way to somewhere else, we often assume that you're busy, and you may not get that extra glance, or you may be walking so fast that you don't pick it up, as walking fast tends to cut down your peripheral vision.
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**Sorry ladies but I am having a "wanna dance" issue**
Ok, it seems like all the girls in my club do the "wanna dance" I'm like the only one who doesn't, and I do fairly well. My approach is to sit, talk, then get a dance. Usually it works but at times my time is wasted. While I'm sitting and talking the girls are doing circles around me asking for dances.
Last friday (my first friday) I felt like a loser cause it was like they were constantly in motion. Oh sheesh, and don't let that red light go on. They are like a heard of cattle. On the weekends we close at 4am. Usually around 3:45am, I'll use the "wanna dance" approach and get dances.
But I always felt like walking in circles, asking for dances and hearing, "no, no, no, no, yea, no, yea, no, no, no" etc wouldn't that be a confidence lower? I mean there are times I get a tad pissed when I sit, waste time, they dont want a dance, and then get one from the blond girl. I know I shouldn't be mad, cause everyone has their preference.
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i use wanna dance when it's high volume and busy. i dont have time to chat in prime time. i use a variation on it tho not just wanna dance.
when it's early and slow i'd rather chat with a customer then walk around looking bored/unwanted.
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I don't do wannadance cause it doesn't give me much opportunity to build rapport, aka hustle. A lot of my best customers "like" me and get dances based on that, as much as on the way I look. Even if it's busy, you can introduce yourself and ask them how they're doing. If you smile and make eye contact, it doesn't take that long to build rapport.
I usually don't sit down until I know a customer is interested; this saves everyone time. I'll make an extra lap around the floor rather than come up on someone from behind. For all the reasons discussed, it's usually a dealbreaker. The exception would be if a customer has really been eyeing me and I can tell he's ready to go; then, if he turns around and sees me, it's a pleasant surprise, not a freakout.