Re: How to establish and maintain regulars
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Originally Posted by ivanahumpalot
IMHO, if you like him, i mean like him as a customer. Make him comfortable. Thast is enough. Make him feel you are worth the money he spends. If he is interested he will be back. Don't call him saying "I miss you, come see me". That sucks. I hate that! I know I miss you and you miss my wallet. If I feel like spending, I will go. This can only make me think you are a greedy gold digger.
Also telling him you will go out with him if he visit more often is stupid. When expectation turns into disappointment you know how he feels. If you do not plan to go out with him, do not tell him you will. Don't try to lie and mess his mind to keep him as a regular.
Just my 2 cnts
I agree totally, especially about not LYING to the "customer" about wanting to go out with him. Lots of dancers play this "string along" game with their customers to keep them as "regulars"... There certainly are customers who have genuinely feelings for dancers other than lust, and there are a few dancers who have genuine feelings for "customers" other than $$$. Sorting through it all is the difficullt part; as a general rule there usually is very little PERSONAL in BUSINESS for dancers. Seen to many "regulars" with hurt & jaded feelings for dancers because of the deceptiions they were led to believe that they were "special" and cared for on a PERSONAL level by the dancers. Should the "customers" know better and understand not to believe or trust a word that comes out of dancers mouth? Perhaps... It's good to keep the saying "actions speak louder than words" in any relationship, but even more so when dealing with the dynamics of dancers-customers.
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Well, I certainly would not lie to anybody. I never have. I wear my wedding ring at work (I now wear a different band since my emerald was stolen) and leave absolutely no doubt that I am monogoumously (?) married.
All that aside, I really do have a lot of custys that I enjoy working with. THey are the ones who "get it", who can enjoy the fantasy while it lasts, who are fun to dance for and talk to, etc. Contrary to popular belief, it is possible to have custys you enjoy seeing in the club jsut because you like them, without being out to exploit them and/or want to sleep with them.
Those are the custies I would like to encourage to return to me, rather than go across the street to Scores, spend their $$ on another dancer, or just fiond something better to do than come to my little club.
I realize that I could string guys along with pormises of going out, etc, but I refuse to do it. I don't need that kind of stress in my working life. The idiots who think they are actaully going to take me home someday are the ones who turn into stalkers, hinder my $$ making with other custys, and generally make life stressful. I have a couple of those already, in spite of discouraging them as much as I can.
So to clarify my original question, after I have met a nice, sensible, realistic guy who also loved my dances and dropped a significant amount of $$ on me, how do I POLITELY let him know that I would like him to come back and see ME personally. ANd besides just asking him to come back and visit me again, how do I actaully encourage him to drop in on some dead-ass Tuesday when I can spend more time with him?
Waht I really woudl like to do is to fill my working life with the kind of custies I like working with, and proportionately reduce the number os a**holes I have to see.
Re: How to establish and maintain regulars
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Originally Posted by coleen
So to clarify my original question, after I have met a nice, sensible, realistic guy who also loved my dances and dropped a significant amount of $$ on me, how do I POLITELY let him know that I would like him to come back and see ME personally. ANd besides just asking him to come back and visit me again, how do I actaully encourage him to drop in on some dead-ass Tuesday when I can spend more time with him?
How about the simple, direct approach?
"I really liked dancing for you and I hope you'll come back and see me...Tuesdays are really slow so if you come in then we'll have lots of time to spend together..."
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Awesome suggestions, everybody!
dlabtot: I like this. It sounds a lot less corny since YOU thought it up. I would not have liked a statement like this if I came up with it myself.
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Originally Posted by Katrine
Advertise on your local message boards for dancers and/or escorts. I know you may not want to be linked with the escort part, but I have several good regulars from just listing my schedule at the bottom of my sig line on aspd.
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Katrine: can you suggest some?
My club has a forum on www.stripclublist.com but all the comments people post there are really mean and derogotory to the dancers. Not6 exactly the best way to promote myself, y'know?
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Well, I don't think this works. It is not like online ads to sell a teapot. People need to see you first and know you a little bit before they can be your regulars. If a girl is hot but she is a total bitch, I won't be her regual. If there are enough people going to your club, IMO you do NOT need to promote yourself that way to let more people know you. Because those people posting on stripclublist are those who have been to your club before and probably already know you are there( although there are also some random guys).
All you need to worry about is how you treat your potential regualrs. Make them feel they are taken care of and you are a sweet person to be with. Also if someone shows interest, you could just tell him your schedule and hope him to see you next time. That is enough.
btw, if you want, you can post some positive comments about yourself on stripclublist.com. It is FREE and no one knows you did that!
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Originally Posted by colleen
Awesome suggestions, everybody!
dlabtot: I like this. It sounds a lot less corny since YOU thought it up. I would not have liked a statement like this if I came up with it myself.
Katrine: can you suggest some?
My club has a forum on
www.stripclublist.com but all the comments people post there are really mean and derogotory to the dancers. Not6 exactly the best way to promote myself, y'know?
Re: How to establish and maintain regulars
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Originally Posted by dlabtot
How about the simple, direct approach?
"I really liked dancing for you and I hope you'll come back and see me...Tuesdays are really slow so if you come in then we'll have lots of time to spend together..."
This definitely works for me. I LOVE slow nights!
Re: How to establish and maintain regulars
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Originally Posted by ivanahumpalot
if you want, you can post some positive comments about yourself on stripclublist.com. It is FREE and no one knows you did that!
I did that already and they are onto me! http://www.stripclublist.com/m.asp?c=16203
Re: How to establish and maintain regulars
You really can't establish a regular as was said before. Regulars establish themselves by wanting to exchange phone numbers, by coming in the club to see you, by asking when you work.
Once a customer is infatuated with you, you just have to communicate with him as much as the flow allows. Just go with the flow and ride the tide. You can't "create" a regular from every guy who buys dances from you.
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^^^ that is so true, because there is nothing more annoying as a customer than a dancer who is obviously trying to turn you into a 'regular' when you want no part of it... I'm afraid to even stage tip those girls for fear it will encourage them
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I will have 2-3 regulars a season, but i have only maintained one true regular. The others quickly get tired of trying to persue (sp) me OTC. I milk them as long as I can. My one true, comes in whenever I call him. He doesn't spend alot but hes good for a definate 100-300, each time. I try not to abuse our relationship b/c hes a great friend now and i really respect him. I think he can tell that too and that is how I have been able to keep him i guess. All the others can probably tell they are like my personal piggy banks or ATMs depending on the amount they spend, i can't keep them longer than 6 months!
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Hi. I have been dancing for 17 years, I have had the best and worst regulars you can imagine. A very small percentage of customers know and believe it is just fantasy. There will come a time when they ask you out or offer money for sex. Regulars have a short shelf life. They will move on. The longest ones I have had is 10 years. Not wealthy spenders though. Look for men who live with their moms, they are the freakiest yet most reliable for cash, they truely have an Oedipus complex yet will not admit it to themselves. You have to establish yourself on a very high pedistal and play the damsel in distress once in awhile. They are hard work and you may lose other business because of them. The club I work at is not high end say C list club, I am older now, heavier yet still making ends meet. I have not ever had a stalker or any incident like that, try not to lie to your regular, dont tell him your married, but tell him nice things, find his weakness, get personal with him, but make it clear your not ready to date customers, but maybe..someday.
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Specials help. For example, a dancer gave me and my friends cards with her name on it and the days she would be working. The cards were for half price entry next time we visit the club.
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Business cards are a good idea. Have you thought of a work facebook and/or work twitter? I have both of those. My mother told me that she had business cards. If a man likes you enough he will come back. Trust me. They always do. All of my regulars would come back. So I would not force it! Just use marketing as a way to perhaps get regulars. If you add them to your work facebook and update it regularly (daily) with posts that show when you're working and what shift you'll be there. I'd try to do marketing. If your client is too old for the facebook or twitter thing, that's cool! That is where business cell phones and business cards come in!! 8)
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Yeah, but its still some good advice here. Imagine my surprise wehn I realized it was MY thread!
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business cards, facebook and websites help a lot!
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I have business cards, passed them out for years now. It has my schedule, name, picture, club address and name. On the back is my website. Go to VistaPrint.com, they have great prices and high quality. These cards are very effective, but you may want to get permission from management first. Just a thought.
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My viewpoint on this (and I really need to make new biz cards that reflect this) are that I have a three month schedulw on my website, so that customers know when and where I'll be in town... I also post my foursquare checkins on my adult FB page, reminding them again what time I'll be at the club...not something for everyone, but since I'm not keen on giving out my phone number, it seems the second best option, since my adult related profiles are utterly separate from my personal ones.