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Giving Out Your Number =(
What is it with men that come into a club and ask the dancers for their numbers....I don't feel comfortable giving out my number to anycostumers, so I tell them that I don't take it outside of the club, most of the time the costumer doesn't want a dance...On the other hand if you do give them your number they get encouraged and don't want a dance because they think that if you do give them your number they can get a dance or more for free...so what to do??? Give out number and not answer..lol..or not give out number??? Maybe give out wrong numbers??? I've been dealing with that issue ever since I started dancing, it's bothering me, and it's hurting my relationship with my fiancee...HELP!!!!
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Tell them you'll give them your number after they buy a dance, then give them the club number.
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if a guy asks for your number he's interested in OTC.
if that isn't your thing, then tell him no and don't waste any more time on him.
if you aren't making enough because most of the guys are there for OTC, then go to a different club with a different customer base.
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You can always get an extra cell phone, Virgin Mobile has 'minute 2 minute plan' basically its 20.00 for 90 days. Keep the phone off, and keep it your bag. maybe update you're schedule on your voice mail.
You can always create a hotmail/yahoo email account and give that out, if the guy ask for your number, say you don’t give it out but you’ll give him your email address instead, most likely he’ll take it.
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Originally Posted by SeXy_BeLLe
What is it with men that come into a club and ask the dancers for their numbers....I don't feel comfortable giving out my number to anycostumers, so I tell them that I don't take it outside of the club, most of the time the costumer doesn't want a dance...On the other hand if you do give them your number they get encouraged and don't want a dance because they think that if you do give them your number they can get a dance or more for free...so what to do??? Give out number and not answer..lol..or not give out number??? Maybe give out wrong numbers??? I've been dealing with that issue ever since I started dancing, it's bothering me, and it's hurting my relationship with my fiancee...HELP!!!!
Just tell him it's against club policy and you don't feel like risking your job.
That's what I do. Or if he looks like he plans to spend a lot, do what Princess says, give him the club number. Or if you have a payphone in your dressing room, give him that one.
Try not to give fake numbers though, a lot of guys will pull out the cell right there and call it to see if it's real.
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Originally Posted by Princess Sex
How desperate is that?
I know for real.
They just don't get it:
Strippers are there to make money! Not fuck people!
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Okay, for the ones who ask for my number without being regular spenders.... they just do not get my number full stop. If they are insist on getting my number (just being rude or plain annoying) then I will just keep saying no and reinforce to them that only those who spend enough and regularly enough on me receive it.
If they get really annoying, then I enlist 'help' in removing them ;)
Saying "It is against club policy" won't work all the time as there will always be those who do give out their phone numbers to guys in a non-professional manner (not to encourage regulars, just to hook up).
If you know that they won't spend a dime on you and/or do not come regularly to the club, just make up something about you just got a new number and do not know it that well yet.
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The against club policy has left me tongue tied at times b/c:
Custy: "Can I have your number?"
Me: "Its against club policy for me to give out my number"
Custy: "Well how will they find out?"
Er...found an answer to that one with me saying "how do I know youre not a cop?". They usually cant walk out of that one and either end it or try to get at me another way by inviting me to dinner. Most of the time that works for me. Either way if they keep persisting I tell them that I have to go to the bathroom and Ill be back. Obviously they are looking for more than a LD.
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Originally Posted by Princess Sex
How desperate is that?
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Originally Posted by *auroralily*
I know for real.
They just don't get it:
Strippers are there to make money! Not fuck people!
Unfortunately, dancers are a fantasy figure to many guys who come into SC's and part of that fantasy is that you:
(a) Behave the same outside of the club as you do inside it.
(b) Will go out on a date with said custy if they can just approach you in the right way.
The practical problem any dancer will have is that the fantasy/illusion that you can be got out on a date is a powerful motivation for many/most custy's to buy private dances.
The trick, (as I see it), is to give the impression that you might give out your number on the next visit the custy makes to the club, but to make no promise that you will actually do so. You've then shifted the problem back one visit where, (hopefully), you can play the same game again.
Phil.
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I am thinking about getting a prepaid phone just for that purpse. I also made up a yahoo email with my stage name as the first name and a cute last name (IVANAPENIS)
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Giving out an instant messenger address (AOL, Yahoo, MSN, etc.) would be safer, I think. Easier to block annoying gents, too. Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by Phil-W
Unfortunately, dancers are a fantasy figure to many guys who come into SC's and part of that fantasy is that you:
(a) Behave the same outside of the club as you do inside it.
(b) Will go out on a date with said custy if they can just approach you in the right way.
The practical problem any dancer will have is that the fantasy/illusion that you can be got out on a date is a powerful motivation for many/most custy's to buy private dances.
The trick, (as I see it), is to give the impression that you might give out your number on the next visit the custy makes to the club, but to make no promise that you will actually do so. You've then shifted the problem back one visit where, (hopefully), you can play the same game again.
Phil.
Yeah, I usually tell them to 'get to know me' first. Persistance is so annoying though... Usually I have to move on to avoid getting bitchy.
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Sometimes when I do tell them it's against club policy, they be like "Oh, but she over there gave me her number"...so I just stand there speechless...I mean I do have a few regular costumers who come to see me every week, and spend a good chunk of money on me, and I don't mind giving them my number, but some of them never even ask...Anyhow, some of the tips you guys gave me are good, I'll most definately try them...
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I knew this dancer who - whenever asked for her number.. she would give the customer the number for the STD clinic..
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When a customer out of the blue asks for your #, and you are hesitant, then he says "well she over there gave me her #" they are probably most likley lying and playing mind games. I just walk away and say whatever. So not worth dealing with. Big regular spenders who have manners and respect are worth having a second phone for and worthy of getting that #. ;)
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I used to work at a sleaze joint, as a matter of fact, quite a few of them, before coming here, a really nice place.
So, any time, those nice gentlemen ask me for my number, I give them the phone numbers to those places. Maybe they will find whatever, at those places, yeah, I'm sure they will.
They may get more than they planned for.
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Okay so every cell phone company has deals that you can get an additional phone line for like $10 a month on top of your phone already. That price is worth paying for a phone that you only use as a business voicemail. I saw someone mentioned it before... but leave it turned off... put your schedule on it and say that you can be contacted at work on those evenings/ days. I would not ever return calls from customers that call unless they are big spenders and aren't weirdos; even then I would only call them to see if they wanted to come to the club and spend some time with me, NOTHING MORE.
When I traveled, I had several gentlemen that wanted me to let them know when I would be in town so they could come see me. However when I called them I would block my number, which would usually get me the chance to leave a message... works better than having to answer any questions about doing something after work. If you do get an answer, just be quick, flirty, and say you just had a minute to call before heading to work and wanted to let them know you'd love their company. Works like a charm! }:D
I know some girls who have biz cards printed with their stage name and biz cell phone. They usually put something about "High class entertainment". I knew a girl who gave dance lessons and taught some pole work and she had it to hand out to girls in the club that needed some extra mentoring, as well as help with saving or investing. Biz cards are a cheap but fantastic investment! Sets you apart from the regular house girls, and gives you a more bizness edge to selling your entertainment services.
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Originally Posted by Sinn
I knew this dancer who - whenever asked for her number.. she would give the customer the number for the STD clinic..
lol. thats a good one.
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I usually give fake numbers or ask them if they want my boyfriend's number too.
If they try to ask for a number before getting dances, they are wasting you're time.
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Customer: "Can I have your number?"
Me: "My numer? I'm number one, baby! But seriously..."
Something that I learned working selling beauty products is that if you can get them to laugh, you can tell them bad news easier. ("How much is a dance?" "Three hundred dollars!") They'll probably laugh or give me one of those "I'm not that dumb looks," and they usually know what's up.
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I have told them that I dont give out my number due to a prevoius bad experience with a psyco customer. I then add that I will take their card or phone number (gives them false impression I will accually call them,).
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Dancers are in sales. Your customer wants to know when you are working since very many of you all are flaky and keep eratic schedules...plus if you call the club 9 out of 10 times they will say so and so is there just to get you to come in. So giving a number does not mean sex it may mean I like you enough to want to see you when I come around...just try getting a second cell phone.
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I don't give out my number anymore since I have had too many men call me at 3 am drunk or want to talk everyday or for 30-45 min at a time. Most men want the number to meet outside the club where I work not to find out when I am at the club.
I have made a few male friends from the club that have my number and I will call and chat or go to lunch with. I can count them on one hand.
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Easy solution: Prepaid cell/mobile phone number! Then get an old phone off a friend or buy one cheap off ebay.. it doesn't matter if it is slightly damaged or second hand as all you want this mobile/cell phone for is to keep it on all the time so that it will ring (therefore put it on mute/silent) and revert any callers to the voicemail.
In the voicemail you will then have a message you will update weekly about when and where you shall be appearing.. "come in and spend some money to have some fun with me!" or anything that will re-inforce that when they come into the club looking for you that they must spend some money in order to really have fun with you.
The reason you will just leave the phone on all the time (and/or constantly connected to its recharger) is that I have found that people would rather have the phone ring and then be directed to voicemail than to just be directed to voicemail immediately.
If you must communicate with the customers individually... do so via text/sms message only! If they have an MMS capable phone, it is totally up to you whether you will send them photos or just stick with plain sms/text messages.
This way you can communicate with them whenever YOU want! ;) It also cuts out all the bs.. you don't have to be on the phone talking with them for half an hour (problem solved -> I have had too many men call me at 3 am drunk or want to talk everyday or for 30-45 min at a time.. ) ....they can come into the club and pay you to talk with you. ;D If you just text/sms them.. it further re-inforces the fact that they must come into the club and pay to play (or even just talk).
As for the guys who want your phone number without even spending a dime... just smile and walk away.... or add some humour to the situation like Abbeynormal suggested. ;D