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Long Conversation
I've read in a lot of posts that you should only sit and talk for 5-10 minutes and if you don't make a sale- get up. Howvever in my experience I've found that if I hang out longer the guy will do VIP rather than a 20$ dance. Of course, sometimes this backfires like when I had an older gentleman who had a lot of $$ bought me a few cocktails and was sending off all the right signals (i.e how beautiful I was, asking about the price of VIP, etc) then bought 1 dance . But most of the time it works because the guys do not feel hustled. I know it's a gamble and I avoid this on a crowded weekend night but.... I guess my question is have any of you ever put "all your eggs in one basket"? I'd like to hear the sucsess stories and the ones that pissed you off-I'm trying not to do this often but I feel like I have a knack for knowing who to spend the time with....but of course I can't pick em EVERY time. I'd like to hear your experiences.
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Re: Long Conversation
Seems like quite a gamble to me... I mean, I'm a pretty dependable customer, I usually spend a bunch, but I would hate to have some dancer mad at me because she sat with me a long time and expected to sell a bunch of dances on a night when I wasn't buying - or not from her. Ten minutes even seems too long to wait before broaching the subject, imho.
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It depends on how busy it is... I am more of a "wanna dance"-er on busy nights (or with custys who dont speak great english) but I will sit and chat for one song (sometimes 2 which is 6 minutes) with men who look like they have $$ potential... If its slow I'll sit and chat longer... better to look busy and be seen on the floor for when new custys walk in than to be hiding in the back...whether the guy buys a dance or not....
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dlabtot- I would never be mad at the customer- it was my decision to sit that long.... and it's not as if the subject of a dance or VIP isn't mentioned.. it just means I haven't "closed the deal". I agree though it is a gamble and I'm trying not to do it as much because one day I'm gonna waste too much time and miss out on something else and I probably will be upset, although more with myself than the customer but 8 times out of 10 it turns out to be a lot of $$$$ for me.
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Pure, I hustle alot like you. On the same note I am very picky who I sit with and when the club gets busier I tend to turn into a wanna dance girl. I work a 7-2 shift and will usually find one good customer to sit with at 7 till I go on stage (about 20-30 minutes ) and get a red bull in me.... primarly becuase we have so many girls vs customers at that time period. Do what your good at.... the key is to work smarter not harder.
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Re: Long Conversation
Pure I just say that because sometimes I get a vibe like that from some of the comments I read on SW -- not neccesarily you, but it is present sometimes.....
Why not try to split the difference between the two methods? Make some quick rounds of the room, during which you can figure out who you want to sit with for a long time.... and then when you do sit with someone for awhile, you could eventually say something like "well I need to make some rounds for dances... do you want some before I go or when I get back?"
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Dlabtot- good suggestion.
You should never look like you can't find something else to do. If you have sat with a custy for more than one set and you aren't making a sale, you need to move along. Even if you come back to sit with that custy after you have worked the room, you shouldn't look like you aren't making sales. If guys/ girls know they can take up your time for free, they will. It isn't rude to tell a custy (who isn't paying for your time) that you have to go earn your money. If they act like you just blew them off, say you would love to come back whenever they are ready for a dance (add in: because you enjoy there company) but until then you have to keep working.