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When regulars start spending less
I want to turn this situation around.
I have this great regular he never asked me for my number or asked me out or anything like that. He loves my body and my time and we always have fun together when he sees me. I work at a non-lap dance place fyi.
Hes seen me 4 times now and each time he spends just a tat less. The 1st 2 times were within the same week. He just got back from a trip and we were happy to see eachother today but when we went into our show he tipped me $40 less than last time. Maybe he was broke from his trip and wanted to see me anyways?
I would like to keep a steady flow of cash with him but not treat him like an atm. I want to make his shows special so he'll see to tip more or at least the same. He doesnt have any out there fetishes either. I dont want him to get bored either. Shows are 20min long. Any advice?
Love,
Stumped/:O
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One system that might work for you is turn up the heat on your value in the club. Part of the reason that he's spending less is that he begins to value your time differently than when you first met. Not that he doesn't value it now, he just values it differently. For many men, it's the chase that is important, not the having. So by making the desire go away a little more each time, you have eliminated the wanting and given him more of the having. My suggestion is the next time you see him, don't rush over to him and act like he's just another "regular". A good way to handle this is to walk up and say hi, be nice, sweet, and then leave. Act interested, but not drooling over him. A good thing to say might be, "I'm so glad to see you tonight. I'm really swamped though, and yet I would still like to give you the attention you deserve. If you're going to be here a bit, I'll come back in a while when I can give you more personalized attention, okay?" and then leave. Not only will you have his head spinning a bit, but you'll sound as if you are in high demand and he needs to truly value your time together when he realizes that your time is money.
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Thats such awesome advice DW I do see the value of time and sorta how to turn it up.
I should add we get very few customers in and when they enter the lobby area they are pretty much the only ones there. The lobby is the size of a living room. We take customers to the back one by one for a private show (its not what youre thinking I swear lol). I cant have him wait b/c we would get in trouble.
Love,
stumpy
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You can't really dictate how much a regular will spend. Especially since you have only dealt with him 4 times, two in one week. Guys have various amounts of money they can spend when they go places, just like we do. Also the first time they are trying to buy your attention.
Regulars tend to last longer when you see them less.
I don't think a show is any motivation for spending more money. Guys either want to date you, or just have sex with you. They aren't really into coming to the club forever seeing a girl whom they are attracted to. You just have to play it by ear and see how long HE shows interest.
Has he offered to give you any money, or buy you presents? This doesn't sound like a well off type guy where money is no object.
Just take what he has to offer while he lasts.
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As a Vulcan friend of mine once said, "You may find, after a time, that there is more pleasure in the wanting than in the having. It is not logical, but it is often true."
Of course, what I believe he was actually saying to Stonn in regards to the duplicitous T'pring was, "You wanted the bitch; now you got her".
But, I digress. :)
I'm sure, somehow, that was relavant.
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Tina, no he hasnt offered any presents or just flat out cash. Its always cash for the show (I dont get show money just tips) and for my tip. I dont think hes rich but just works really hard. So I can see money being of greater value to him.
Silverback you silly silly man I love the quotes.
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Eh this is a problem always...when a regular stops being a regular and thinks they are your friend. had regular who used to spend so much on me and tip me over $100 everytime...now he just comes in for a talk so I try and ignore him but its hard not to be rude.
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I think DW's advice is right on. Remember, men want what other men want. If he thinks you're in high demand, not only have you made him value your time but you've validated his decision to make you his fav.
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yeah, as usual DW knows all :)
its so annoying though, miranda, i know what you mean!!
i hate when guys think theyreyour friend sothey dont need to pay you anymore but still kindof expect the same amount of attention just because you 'like' them!!! arrrrghhhh
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When they start spending less money I start spending less time with them, I understand for you TM that they are buying the show so it is different...
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I have this great regular he never asked me for my number or asked me out or anything like that. He loves my body and my time and we always have fun together when he sees me. I work at a non-lap dance place fyi.
Hes seen me 4 times now...
I really learn things on SW...I would never have imagined before I started posting here that if I just went to the club and spent a bunch of money on a dancer -- only 4 times -- that she would think I was her 'regular' -- what a concept.
At my club there is a dancer who has a real regular. He's been coming to see her exclusively for years, dropping huge sums, day in, day out. Now he is a regular, and an object lesson for every sc patron as to what they don't want to be.
Anyway, back to topic, 4 times isn't even enough to plot a trend. What is his cash flow? Maybe he came in with a big wad a couple times, and then didn't have much, but couldn't resist your charms and came back even though he couldn't be Mr. Big Spender that night.
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You know what gets me to rejuvenate spending on a favorite local dancer whom I've lost interest in? Steering clear of her for several months and spending money on other dancers, preferably ones working at other clubs in other cities.
If a guy spends too much money on the same girl, he's going to have too much frame of reference on what the last time was like, so if you don't meet his increasing higher expectations, he's going to regard that visit as disapointing, so he spends less because his perspective tells him he's no longer getting a good ROI. It's not so much that you're doing worse, its that his senses are becoming too critical.
Imagine if you went on vacation to some exotic location for the first time. You'd probably think it was paradise and would spend money there like it was candy. Now imagine you went there every year. You'd probably view the place more critically and would tighten your spending accordingly.
It's simply a phase he's going through. The money will probably continue to decline, and he may disapear eventually, but if he remembers how well you treated him, after a period of absense he may come back. Not much you can really do about it. These types of relationships aren't bound to last forever, so enjoy them (and the money) while it lasts.
Just realize that at the same time, some other dancer's regular is probably going through the same thing with her, and may see you as the hot new gal he wants to spend his money on. It all tends to balance out.
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To be honest, I don't understand why amlost everybody says something like "Regulars tend to last longer when you see them less" either from dancers or customers. That is bullshit. Remeber it is not like dating your dream girl in college. I believe most of the guys are here just for fun. If you spend decent money but do not get what you need. Are you going to spend in the future on the same girl? Maybe he will spend several more times to give you some chances. But if you still play the chasing game, it can only hurt your wallet.
I think what you need to do is not to spend less time with him and play the game, but to know what he wants(some talk, a certain fantasy, a dinner or sex?) and give him a better service if possible. For me, if my girl is or pretends to be in high demand and play the chasing game to make me spend more, it can make me feel she is good enough to make big money and is cocky enough to ignore me or disrespect me. The funding will be cut immediately. The competition is not among the customers, but among the dancers.
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Ok some people dont understand I cannot spend less time with him. He is the only customer there. He doesnt ask for anyone else and requests me when there is another girl he can have. So, I guess he is a regular. If he wanted to spend his money on another girl sure I dont care but Id like to keep him around. I only work with 1 other girl during my shift. Theres only 12 girls that work at this club. Its hard to appear in demand when there it no one else to focus on or anything else to do when he is there.
Ivannhumpalot- what chasing game? He comes in, he buys a show and tips me. We chat for a bit afterwards and he asks when Im working again. Maybe I have to spice up my show? Why make a sexier/naughtier show for less though?
Doc-catfish - in your 4th paragraph down. You may be right. Im trying to make this last. But then again I guess regulars come and go even if it is a short amount of time or a few years.
Maybe he will remember me and come back to spend more time with me with a better tip?
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hell just 2 girls/shift? you should consider another club insteading of keeping him as a regular. and forget what i said, ijus tmean dont play you are in high demand
to make him spend more(now i know you cannot). Maybe you should ask him what kind of show he wants. no oneelse cann tell his preference.
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Originally Posted by TigersMilk
Ok some people dont understand I cannot spend less time with him. He is the only customer there. He doesnt ask for anyone else and requests me when there is another girl he can have. So, I guess he is a regular. If he wanted to spend his money on another girl sure I dont care but Id like to keep him around. I only work with 1 other girl during my shift. Theres only 12 girls that work at this club. Its hard to appear in demand when there it no one else to focus on or anything else to do when he is there.
Ivannhumpalot- what chasing game? He comes in, he buys a show and tips me. We chat for a bit afterwards and he asks when Im working again. Maybe I have to spice up my show? Why make a sexier/naughtier show for less though?
Doc-catfish - in your 4th paragraph down. You may be right. Im trying to make this last. But then again I guess regulars come and go even if it is a short amount of time or a few years.
Maybe he will remember me and come back to spend more time with me with a better tip?
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Good point on asking him what he wants. I dont know him well enough to just throw stuff out there. Last thing I want to do is turn him off.
Its a great club and it feels more like a job so I work harder and make more than I could ever make in a regular SC out here.
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Just have a casual talk with him. Know him a little more. Don't make it too serious. Don't focus on your questions. I think you can sense something from his words
btw i am confused. how can you make money if there is just one customer there during your shift
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Originally Posted by TigersMilk
Good point on asking him what he wants. I dont know him well enough to just throw stuff out there. Last thing I want to do is turn him off.
Its a great club and it feels more like a job so I work harder and make more than I could ever make in a regular SC out here.
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Not during the whole shift. Damn, I would never make any money if that. Customers randomly come in but rarely is there two or more in at one time waiting in the lobby area for a girl to come out from the door. The lobby is just a plain room with 2 couches and some magazines (regular magazines).
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i've been a regular for almost 3 years i always go in spend the same amount. enough for 1 dance and plenty of 1's for tipping. i know i don't spend alot so i've found ways to spend my money in such a way that it helps you as a dancer make more.
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What type of club do you work in with only 1 other dancer and no other customers? Is it like a modeling studio?
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Yea you could say that its a "modeling studio" more like a private peep show.
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Originally Posted by Asbat
i've been a regular for almost 3 years i always go in spend the same amount. enough for 1 dance and plenty of 1's for tipping. i know i don't spend alot so i've found ways to spend my money in such a way that it helps you as a dancer make more.
I dont understand how it helps them make more? You buy one dance for each dancer?
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I have noticed the same trend with new regulars. The first night, they buy a zillion dances and hand over money like it was nothing. Then each visit gets to be a little less, and eventually ther are trying out new girls and spreading what little cash they have around among all of us.
This is an idea that might work for you. Involve him in a conversation and find out what he likes or is curious about, that you can involve in a show. Once you have goten an idea you can run with, tell him next time he comes in you will have a big surprise for him, if he is extra-nice to you also. THen do whatever he said he likes in the next show. You owouldn't want to do this all the time, maybe once every 3-4 visits, just enough to keep him interested and wondering what amazing thing you are going to do next.
Good luck.
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Originally Posted by ivanahumpalot
I dont understand how it helps them make more? You buy one dance for each dancer?
I think what he means is the dance isn't going to waste alot of time sitting with him if she already knows she's only going to get one dance.
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It sounds that you work in a lingerie lounge type place where guys come in for private shows only. I've been to one and could tell by the box of kleenix by the couch what was expected. You might ask him sweetly if he'd like to take his dick out next time since as nice as he may seem he isn't there to be entertained.