Today's Starting Over Show
I am watching todays Starting Over show in which one of the girls in the Starting Over House was a former stripper and escort, and a best selling author who is counseling her was too. This girl was homeless and desperate. Did any of you see it?
Iyanla Vanzant who heads this show sees escorting and stripping as the same thing.
I went to www.startingovertv.com and under comments dissed them for the negative stereotyping of strippers. I referenced SW and Dancer Wealth and told them that stripping is a good career which provides wealth and financial success for many a girl. I told them that stripping wasn't the same as escorting and that I was insulted by their bashing of the industry.
The reason I am posting this is so all of you who choose to can go to their website and bash them for airing such a negative show about stripping.
We need to stand up every time the media shows stripping as a bad thing.
Let's overwhelm their feedback line girls!!!
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Tina: is stripping really a "career". Plus, althought the distinction has been discussed here many times, both strippers and escorts make money providing sexual fantasy to clients. Its really just the level of service that is provided.
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A career is whatever you want it to be. It is a line of work that you derive your primary income from. It's not what you do, but how you do it. What is the difference in a girl who works 5-6 days a week as a nurse or legal secretary, and a girl who works 5-6 days a week as a dancer? They are all sources of income. A job or career merely is a source of income.
Society doesn't see it as a career because any way of earning a living that breaks the norm is not deemed "acceptable".
Stripping provides sexual fantasy, escorting provides actual sex.
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I wrote a quick note.. I don't expect people to change their minds..everybody wants someone to look down on......
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Yes skanklover, for some (not all) of us stripping is a career. And a very profitable and fulfilling one at that.
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Of course stripping is a career! A lucrative one, at that.
People have this idea that a career is 'what you're going to be when you grow up', and nothing besides that is real. The average person has, what, 5 careers in their lifetime? This is my first. I'll always see it as that.
I'll go to the site.
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I'm 28 and have at least different types of 4 career-orienteed jobs, ones that a person could successfully stay in for many years. I'm not going to waste my time with the site.....:(
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YES Tina YES!! I was wondering if anyone else had noticed that. I saw the show and I've stopped watching ever since they put that girl on there. That girl put stripping in such a ridiculous light, I don't believe any logical person would assume it's all true. I could see her feeling bad about misleading or scamming in Vegas. But she cried over how the first night she couldn't walk in her shoes and spilled beer, oh please! Only in America...
That lady Iyanla... I hate to cast dispersions but since she's gotten the ball rolling-- You're a black woman: does she come across as MAMMY-like to you?
They also had one very mainstream suburban lesbian, who hadn't so much as gotten a much sought-after nosering at the age of 35. She just mysteriously left without a trace, no pic on the website, wasn't kicked off, didn't graduate, just vanished.
That's why I can hardly take shows like Starting Over seriously. They completely desexualize the guests as part of the process. They make them purely emotional vessels. They don't allow sexuality to have a respectful role in the "healing" process. The sexuality has to be couched in remorse. It's just about affirming Middle American values, as Middle American Soccer Mom is the main viewer.
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These shows don't want to air anti-establishment beliefs. I have read some of Iyanla's books in the past and thought she had some good theories, but totally disrespect her now.
And being a black woman, with as much discrimination we face as a race, it troubles me to see people of my race stereotype others. That show is low on ratings and is trying to attract viewers.
Of course there are dancers out there who are dysfunctional. Anyone who is halfway attrractive and has a vagina can dance. Girls who got fired from jobs or who have drug problems can get hired as a dancer with no background check. That doesn't mean all of us who dance are like them.
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can you link me to the comments.
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I held a government job for 5 years prior to stripping. I saw more drug addicts, alcoholics and dysfunctional people working there than I ever saw dancing. That TV show is crap. Never liked it. They mess those people up more than help them with their over analyzing bullshit.
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^ True. At my state job we had one homewrecker, a couple druggies and several backstabbers/shirkers. It's hard to NOT do your job in an SC when you're working the room in your underwear.
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Starting Over was on when I got home form work tonight, so I started watching. Well, first thing they did was bring Christina to a club, where some ex-dancer told her "a story about a girls...who blah blah blah...and that girl was me". The best was her segues- "so I started dancing, which led to drugs, and soon I was homeless". BAM! Wow.
Anyways, I turned it off pretty quick. But I will say I love Jill for getting in Lisa's face about always referring to Christina as a stripper.
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I totally agree with Scarlett.....way to go Jill!!!!!
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A career is whatever you want it to be. It is a line of work that you derive your primary income from. It's not what you do, but how you do it. What is the difference in a girl who works 5-6 days a week as a nurse or legal secretary, and a girl who works 5-6 days a week as a dancer? They are all sources of income. A job or career merely is a source of income.
Society doesn't see it as a career because any way of earning a living that breaks the norm is not deemed "acceptable".
Truth. Some of my favorite people are career strippers. :D
There is no shame in being a career stripper; at least, there shouldn't be, certainly among those in the business and those who patronize them.
Two cents.