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ditto on dental hygienist...my mother is one and she loves it. she has her own clientele, answers to pretty much nobody, sets her own hours (currently she works like, five days a month that lazy wench! hehe) and works at a few different offices (sub work). it was a couple years of school and she makes something like 40-50 an hour. i don't know how things differ in other parts of the country -- granted she lives in CA and there is not a dental hygiene program in any local college around her area so there's less competition.
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I've just taken up professional website design (have been doing it as a hobby for years), and the money is REALLY good. I was lucky enough to be given 12-15 websites to do straight off... but once they're finished, I guess I'm going to have to start advertising if I want to get any more work. I've never done any professional training in website design, I just taught myself how to do it all. Most professional designers here charge about AU$80 per hour! (I'm charging a fraction of that cos I'm still a newbie lol)
So yeah, assuming you can get enough work, there's very good money to be made in website design!
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Yeah, it's probably got a lot to do with your local area. :-) Mine is the West Coast, and in the Seattle area especially I've even heard a joke, something like "you can't fall down the stairs without landing on an out-of-work web designer". So mileage may vary dramatically based on location.
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RN especially pays well, though you *usually* have to get a four-year degree for that, I think there are some 3-year programs AND there are 1-2-year LPN programs allowing you to start the work and then finish your RN from there -- I researched this only briefly though, maybe one of the nurses or nursing students on this board could say more?
Community colleges across the country offer two-year RN programs with an Associates Degree in Science. In RI, students in the two-year program have done as well on the licensing exams as students in four-year programs.
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Thanks for all the great responses.
What do you all think about the following possibilities?
- Real Estate sales (seems like you would need a hot market, but I would guess attractive women could do well here)
- Pharmaceutical sales (I think you need contacts to get into the industry, but I hear good things about the money - plus you hang out with a lot of well heeled doctors, which could be good and bad. Also seems like another field where being an attractive female might help.)
- RN (they seem to always be in short supply which seems to drive up pay in this arena).
- Bartending (need a good club with lots of regulars, but I see pluses and minuses here)
Thanks,
Sparky
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Foxey...very very good point!!! Seriously if there was something that paid better than stripping I'd be doing it...i dont strip for my own entertainment!!!
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Hold up...wait a minute.
Going to college is a mistouted remedy.
For instance, I have 5 degrees....and still can't make what I make dancing.
2 are in the medical field..one is a PhD.
So "tell her to go to college" to me is a bunch of crock. Sure, she needs education, but let her get a degree that makes her something...or go to a trade school, where she STILL won't make as much money.
What's better to tell her is this..."Go to Computer school"...where you can make like 60-80k starting out.
What you need to do is go to entrepreneur school.
I have made 130K+ with only three years of college education (and a whole lot of self-study from Barnes and Noble.)
One of the lessons from Forest Gump is that even an idiot can make out if they JUST DO SOMETHING.
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Thanks for all the great responses.
What do you all think about the following possibilities?
- Real Estate sales (seems like you would need a hot market, but I would guess attractive women could do well here)
- Pharmaceutical sales (I think you need contacts to get into the industry, but I hear good things about the money - plus you hang out with a lot of well heeled doctors, which could be good and bad. Also seems like another field where being an attractive female might help.)
- RN (they seem to always be in short supply which seems to drive up pay in this arena).
- Bartending (need a good club with lots of regulars, but I see pluses and minuses here)
Thanks,
Sparky
Not RNs - H1-Bs are coming to town for that. Marketing. That is the place to be. A lot of people have trouble with the face to face (or even talking on the phone) when it comes to business. I seen grown men run away from 18 year old kids on the floor of Big Box Mart.
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^^I can't agree.... I don't think the RN shortage is going away anytime soon...better money than stripping, though? I have no idea...
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I am a LPN. I got my degree in 2000. I worked at both hospital and doctor's offices. The most I made in the hospital was 14.12 per hour and the doctor's office was 15.00 per hour. There are benefits to working in the hospital even though it is less pay and obvious benefits from working at the doctor's office. When I worked in the hospital I worked 3 twelve hour shifts in a row then took four days off. Even though I worked 36 hours I got paid for 40. When I worked at the hospital my friend who was a BSN, bachelor's science nursing, four year degree and a nurse manager made 21 per hour. But she was reponsible for all the nurses on the floor and running the acute care unit basically. I am totally burnt out on nursing now. I got tired of running my ass off, cleaning up feces and urine, lifting patients up and down, taking them to and from, doing assessments, cleaning wounds, tube feeding, iv's, giving oral meds, measuring intake and output and the list goes on. As a LPN you do most of the "hand's on work", the RN does quite a bit as well but she has to give iv narcotics and blood, which as a LPN you can not do. She also does a lot more paper work. It is hard work and a lot of responsibility. One mistake could cost someone their life and haunt you for the rest of yours. I am not partically fond of dancing anymore either. I have been doing it since 2002. I tend to burn out easily. I just don't like a lot of people that much, lol. I am now learning to groom dogs. I want to learn this and hopefully open my own business. There can be some good money in it. Most groomers who are any good can charge around 50 per dog, that includes a bath, dry and clip. The lady I am learning from does up to 15 dogs per day. I think that is pretty decent money. We'll see how it goes. Good luck to everyone in their endeavors.
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Honey, when you think about it...grooming dogs IS the same as stripping...
(lol).
You are grooming men's egos by letting them think they are important and attractive...maybe not a 'physical' groom, but sure as hell a mental one. Not much of a difference...although I'd rather groom tinkerbell and fido anyday. Animals are great. Good luck with that...
Degol- (entrepreneur school)...I have owned 4 businesses of mine for the past 8 years. All of them online. So I know what you are talking about. It is not the money in general..the economy and jobs in my area are bad...if I went to DC or some other place, I'd be making bank with what I already have.
As far as pharmaceutical sales...it's tough getting in. I have training in it. You have to know people. It helps when you have a background in the drug the company sells the most of (ie: I'm a clinical psychologist)...so that helps. There are a few organizations out there that prepare you for that, as far as training and testing...look up pharmaceutical testing and sales on yahoo. You'll find them.
But it is really tough getting in depending on which state you live in and the demand and saturation of that area..same as any other job.
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Uh, greenidlady, what you're describing is classic gemini flightiness. I have the same problem - something sounds really good for a while, until you've 'conquered' it or gotten used to it, then it's boring and.......what's next??? Before stripping I could never stick with a job for more than a few months because of sheer boredom. Heh, the only reason I've been able to keep stripping for so long is that I've had the freedom to move and travel around as much as I wanted (and taken every opportunity). Now I'm even starting to get bored with this - pretty much run out of new places to go so it's not very exciting anymore.
ANYWAY - back to the topic. Main problem we in the sex industry have is two-fold: 1) being used to fast cash and 2) lack of structure/discipline at work. Even if we can adjust to the lower earnings potential of regular jobs, it's HARD to get into the groove of showing up to work when someone else says, putting in the hours, dealing with tons more rules and even bigger assholes without being able to just tell them to piss off and a million other things regular working stiffs have to put up with that suck.
If we had better alternatives, trust me, we wouldn't be stripping!
......Ok, some of us might for the fun of it, but there wouldn't be NEARLY as many strippers as there are now. Somebody come up with some good ideas quick so we can get some of these excess bitches out of the clubs! LOL ;D
Anyway, some suggestions that could be worth looking into depending on the area, her abilities/background/tastes:
*real estate sales - can be licensed in most states in 1-2 months
*massage therapist - takes a few months, maybe a year in most states to get trained and licensed
*cosmetologist - again, weeks/months to licensed in most states
*car sales - car lots are always advertising for trainees (I know, I know, but if you can SELL it could be decent and trainees are taken with no experience/education
*cleaning business - if you like to clean and don't mind the work - set your own hours, advertise, pass out cards. may need some kind of licensing but shouldn't be too big a deal
*personal assistant / shopper - some people pay good money for this, and in some areas this could be quite lucrative for someone who can market herself
*costume lady - if the local clubs aren't already overrun with costume ladies/in-house shops, this can be good money for sitting in the dressing rooms of strip clubs
I'm sure there's a hundred other things if you think about it. For anything people need done, there's someone willing to pay for it. Alot of people carve out nice livings in jobs they create themselves, doing things other people can't or don't want to do. Think of what you're good at and enjoy, pay attention to what other people do/say, and work up some ideas. As strippers we're used to doing things other people can't or don't want to do and coming up with ways to sell ourselves and our services, so this kind of thing shouldn't be too much of a stretch.
Ugh, sorry for the long-ass post! ::)
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Come down to New Orleans and work for FEMA.They are paying anywhere from $150,to $500 a day,cash too!!!
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Maybe net modelling? I made pretty good money doing that (well, in addition to stripping!) and Real Estate is good because women tend to do well in this area, especially hot ones! Move to a lucrative area and see what happens!
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Work on an oil rig, over seas, they make awesome money. Shit even in Wyoming they make $25/hr and they work 7 days in a row and then have sometimes up to a week off.
Or, find a sales job that you can make comsn. on. Phone companies/ mortgage biz.
The only way for an x- stripper to feel like she is making what she's worth is to be in a job she can make money off selling her personality and a product she believes in while also still having a flexible work schedule, that's what we're used to doing so we can out sell most other salespeople based on our past experience.
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As an attractive woman, you're always going to be working off/against/with your looks and personality. That's one thing that you have to come to grips with.
I have represented myself in court for the past 5 years and will be doing it for others in a few years, legally. The women think I'm a bimbo, and men think I'll f*ck them to get a better deal. I haven't lost a case yet. I really dont' care because when they understimate me and think I'm not to be taken seriously, they make more mistakes and I zing them with the brain God gave me.
I used to get upset when I did business outside of work ( and I don't mean outside of the club dancing activities) and I would have guys hitting on me. After a while, I learned to deal with it and make it an advantage.
I have started to wean myself off this money and prepare myself for law school without dancing with an internet business. It has nothing to do with my looks, I can do it from home and it's great money. I'll be able to do that and go to school with out worrying about my money drying up.
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I would suggest starting your own business. Depending on the biz the pay could either be close to what you make or exceed what you make in the sex industry.
For me it was not about the money it was about keeping that independence and my own schedule.
Look into that.
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Just saw this today about the shortage of pharmacists, but of course, it's a job that takes a formal education to fill.
http://www.columbiatribune.com/2005/...030News013.asp
On the other hand, that's a very structured and, to me, boring job. You couldn't pay me $80,000 a year to do it. I think what others have to say about starting your own business that's centered on something the person has an interest in is worth investigating. It obviously helps to have saved up the money over time to aid in the transition.
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Be a Roadie for a rock band!
I started off at the bottom of the barrell as a "crew girl". Crew helps out the traveling roadieswith the heavy lifting and the set-up. I was in the audio sect of this field and I got paid 12 bucks an hour for 8-10 hour days. It's really hard work; some road cases are 1000 lbs. plus. Heavy even on wheels. Little work related injuries and sleep deprivation are commonplace.
You can move your way up to a tour. Of course, you wanna work for the big names-Destiny's Child roadies make 3 grand a week, but I hear that is frickin' stressful. My SO is the stage manager for Skinny Puppy and he makes maybe half that. But he has millions of interesting stories about world travel. He's been to so many places and seen the world. Plus, he's on their new DVD :).
Any job other than the sex industry=bust your ass for comparable $$$.
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A friend of mine is an assistant tour manager for a band and she gets paid $1,000 a week and an additional $350 a week for spending money.The hours are long though.
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seriously? How/where would one apply for that?
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*massage therapist - takes a few months, maybe a year in most states to get trained and licensed
I know a guy here who is a massage therpist and said the market is saturated and it's hard to get work in the field. For a while he was working at a gay resort and did okay but he got sick of it because he is not gay and got hit on so much. Otherwise he said he couldn't find a job.
I had a talk with an attorney a while ago who said he's done well as an attorney but makes most of his money in real estate. He bought his first property with a down payment on a credit card. However, he researches in depth the properties he buys. He looks for ones that he knows are in a growing area and will be in demand. He owns strip malls and some land in very desirable places. It takes a lot of research and knowledge but it doesn't take a degree.
I've found that there is no easy road to success. Everything worthwhile will take a lot of work but if you pick something you like (or at least like somewhat) it isn't as bad as something you can't stand. We all have an aptitude for something. My brother is great with computers and electronics and I get frustrated easily with that stuff so he flew through his certifications and I would have probably been frustrated with just the first one. He makes pretty good money though and he doesn't have a degree, just a bunch of microsoft certifications.
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Become a stockbroker.
Sell stock.
Be an investment speicalist.
Become an actuary (sort of an insurance adjuster).
Must have good solid mathematical skills and background.
Further, become an engineer.
All these jobs require dedication, lot of study, and work, work, work.
Some more opportunities.
Be a TV camera person, (my current daytime job).
Other opportunities in the sex-related industuries exist, but
Once I leave dancing, I don't plan or want to return.
Been in this business since I was knee high to a grass hopper.
Good luck to ya all.
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Originally Posted by sorrow
Hold up...wait a minute.
Going to college is a mistouted remedy.
For instance, I have 5 degrees....and still can't make what I make dancing.
2 are in the medical field..one is a PhD.
So "tell her to go to college" to me is a bunch of crock. Sure, she needs education, but let her get a degree that makes her something...or go to a trade school, where she STILL won't make as much money.
What's better to tell her is this..."Go to Computer school"...where you can make like 60-80k starting out.
OMG I TOTALLY agree on this one 100%!! Seriously I just graduated college (only a B.A. though) and my internship turned into a job and this was a "real job" that I could brag about that "looks good" but I looked around at all the old men doing what I was doing and thought I could just die if that were me at that age. I was utterly miserable with my job and I could only hope to earn $45k at best, which in my opinion is NOT a lot of money. I would much rather have a job that I do on my terms, where all the time and effort I spend on my hair, makeup, and at the gym anyway are actually necessary for my job. I am not the person to care what others think about me... if I cared then I would have never quit and never made this leap. I would be miserable living a lifestyle I don't want and always regretting not becoming a stripper all because I was scared about what people thought about me! Who cares! I don't know how bad it can drain you emotionally and mentally yet but I have been sexually harrassed before, physically and mentally with filed police reports involved. As women we are treated as sexual creatures, period. I figure why not use that to your advantage and bank off of it? But as smart women, we should always have a back up plan of course! ;)