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"Its a STRIP CLUB not a BROTHEL.......Fool!"
How many times in one shift do you get customers asking for sex? It annoys the shit outta me especially the pushy ones that wont take "NO" for an answer.>:(
I've solved this problem by befriending our biggest most aggressive looking bouncer. :gnasher:
So now when someone asks for sex I just point to him & say "Thats my pimp, go work out a price with him" most get the joke & walk off but others stupid/drunk or both who honestly believe me receive a thundering loud 3min lectured (by a 7ft black guy built like a gorilla) on the diffrence between a strip club & a brothel, respect & throwing his ass out if he plays up again :smellie_f
..............Its priceless to watch :laughing:
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I wouldn't reccommend saying that, in case a vice cop would over hear you and think you were serious. Or maybe you don't work in a place with vice. It is funny though. I was doing dances one night with a friend, and this guy refused to pay her. There happened to be this big guy standing around and he had a total pimp outfit on and my friend pointed at him and went, "Oh yeah Mr? That's my pimp, I'm gonna go get him and he's gonna fuck you up!!" hee-hee, he paid her.
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It's hilarious and a great comeback, but couldn't an undercover cop get you for that?
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I'd probably say something more abstract, like "Talk to him about it," and point at the bouncer, which would be less incriminating. Vice can nab you for anything, but by saying nothing about actually being a prostitute, there's less risk.
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^^^ She's in Austrailia. Maybe Kitten can explain to us about their solicitation laws..but I know in some places of austrailia..this is legal.
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Okay, I'm not going to tell you to like it, but. We work in strip clubs. We professionally take off our clothes, sexually stimulate and pretend to like men. It can't shock and surprise you that guys want to have sex with you. I mean if they are impolite or disrespectful, I would get it more, but I can't really get getting that mad just because guys want to fuck you.
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I get it ALL THE TIME. 99% of our customers are broke Mexicans who think they're going to get a blowjob for $10 or so (bear in mind that a simple lapdance costs $40 - ha ha!). I've learned not to even bother with them. The first time they even mention wanting anything beyond a dance, I tell them they're not going to find it here (and they really aren't; our club is really clean and we have cameras). Then give them my best "go fuck yourself" smile and leave them alone. They never stay more than a few minutes and they never want to tip anyone or buy dances anyway.
When I'm tired and cranky, I have bitched a couple of them out. I gave a couple guys a lecture on "I can't believe how rude! How dare you go up to a woman you just met and call her a WHORE?" etc., and occasionally I give them a patronizing look and say something, "I'm sorry, you must have thought this was a whorehouse. We have DANCERS here, not prostitutes."
They often whine, "Well, they do it at the Playpen!" (skanky club in the area)
My standard response: "Then take your happy ass to the Playpen. Have fun. Enjoy your gonorrhea."
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Just to reply to Jennys post...
If I understand what the original poster was saying(and i think I do, cause I have the same issues), the problem is not with them wanting to fuck us. It's with their assuming they can buy us, and the general assumption that since we are working in the club, we must be hookers too. That is rude and insulting. And I have yet to meet a guy who was polite about the issue.
On another note...usually when a guy pulls that stuff with me...I tell him he couldnt afford me if he was Donald Trump himself. then I go tell management.
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I get it ALL THE TIME. 99% of our customers are broke Mexicans who think they're going to get a blowjob for $10 or so (bear in mind that a simple lapdance costs $40 - ha ha!). I've learned not to even bother with them. The first time they even mention wanting anything beyond a dance, I tell them they're not going to find it here (and they really aren't; our club is really clean and we have cameras). Then give them my best "go fuck yourself" smile and leave them alone. They never stay more than a few minutes and they never want to tip anyone or buy dances anyway.
When I'm tired and cranky, I have bitched a couple of them out. I gave a couple guys a lecture on "I can't believe how rude! How dare you go up to a woman you just met and call her a WHORE?" etc., and occasionally I give them a patronizing look and say something, "I'm sorry, you must have thought this was a whorehouse. We have DANCERS here, not prostitutes."
They often whine, "Well, they do it at the Playpen!" (skanky club in the area)
My standard response: "Then take your happy ass to the Playpen. Have fun. Enjoy your gonorrhea."
HAHA... I remember the first time this happened to me. It didn't really happen that much that clubs as it's a nice topless club, but once while I was giving this guy a 20 dollar lap dance his friend came up and offered me 10 dollars to have sex with the friend. I was like are you kidding me right now????
Glad to hear I'm not the only who thought, wtf.
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Ugh you guys think you got it bad... So I'm working in a club that really is more of a brothel than a strip club. Honestly about 90% of the girls (if not more) do extras there and the club allows it. I just started there last week. Personally I won't do extras. I just can't cross that line. So I've been making decent money, especially considering I'm basically one of the only strippers in a brothel with a strip club front! I'm making more than I made at my last club. My problem is this... I'm fucking jealous of the money those hookers make! They are making $1000 - $2000 a shift and it's really hard for me to watch these girls runnin' around with $1000 in plain sight in their garters well I have lot less than that. It makes me feel like shit for making so much less and it makes me so jealous! For example I was chatting with a girl last night and she says "Damn it's slow tonight!" and I'm like "Yeah, I just did my first VIP ($100) now." and it was half way through the shift. Well she is like "Oh, I only have $300 and that's really bad for me." I was annoyed and complained to my hubby about it all the way home and he pointed out "She sucked 3 dicks for that $300, and all you did was lap dance for the money you made... how can you be jealous of that?" Which was a good point. Anyhow, I just wanted to rant!
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Foxey, you should find a new club.
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I never understood why guys ask us this.Have they taken the time to think that swapping body fluids with multiple people is gross???If sex did happen in strip clubs like they think,they should also ask themselves,"How many guys have already done this chick tonight???"Dancing is TOTALLY different than the actual act of sex.
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I always told those idiots that I was not a hooker and that they should look in the yellow pages under escort if they were seeking anything beyond dances.
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Originally Posted by onlythebest
I never understood why guys ask us this.Have they taken the time to think that swapping body fluids with multiple people is gross???If sex did happen in strip clubs like they think,they should also ask themselves,"How many guys have already done this chick tonight???"
I have a great line I've used twice:
Him: "Let me lick your titties! I wanna lick you!"
Me: "If I let everyone do it, would you still want to?"
Him: "Well... no! Hell no!"
Me: "Then what makes YOU so special, that I should let you do it and no one else?"
The first guy just stared at me and didn't get it at all. The second one cracked up laughing and had a great time spending $300 behaving himself. I will use this line again, I believe.
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Yeesh, I can't understand the public use of a body either. My friend Shen works as a male stripper, and he says that women will go right ahead and try to suck his dick on stage, never mind the fact that 1) several other women may have succeeded and 2) a decent number of male strippers are gay, meaning that the guy's dick may have been up someone's ass. Also, in clubs, guys will ask you to finger yourself and let them suck your juices off of your finger. One day, I went to the club with a yeast infection from hell and was in a bitchy mood the whole night, so I cheered myself up by letting a couple guys do that! }:D I know, I know, it's dirty and vice could have nabbed me, but it was sooooo gratifying!
One of my friends has an ex-husband who admitted that he had hired a strip club extras girl on several occasions who would offer it bareback for $40. Holy crap, you know she's going to have HIV, or at the very least HPV or herpes, if she's offering it that cheap and raw, not to mention that it's not just sloppy seconds, more likely sloppy 15ths. I dunno who's dumber: the guys who buy raw sex, or the women who offer it. I cringe at the thought of all this b/c I'm studying to be a nurse and I know what kind of yuckies lie beneath. Anyone who's taken a basic health class can have a slight idea. I guess ignorance/denial is bliss!
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OMFG,I can't believe this girl offers it bareback.That's GROSS!!!!!!!!
LOL,that question sounds like,"What came first,the chicken or the egg???"I think it's equally stupid on the girl's and guy's parts.
Gee,I wonder why this guy is an EX-husband now,LOL.Sheesh.
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Originally Posted by nicole84
If I understand what the original poster was saying(and i think I do, cause I have the same issues), the problem is not with them wanting to fuck us. It's with their assuming they can buy us, and the general assumption that since we are working in the club, we must be hookers too. That is rude and insulting. And I have yet to meet a guy who was polite about the issue.
I think the point is that it's not such a big leap from paying me to be nude in his lap to having full sex. It's not like there are signs in the club with a menu of delineation. Nor are there any prerequisite SC 101 classes for the customer to learn where the lines are drawn. Nor are the lines drawn in the same place from club to club or dancer to dancer. Nor would my mom fathom my doing a lap "dance" as anything other than having sex. And in many states, an enthusiastic lap dance fits the law's definition of prostitution.
So yeah, I get why they ask. I certainly don't appeciate the ones who won't take no for an answer. At the same time, I very much appreciate the ones who are educated enough and classy enough to understand the concept of exotic dancing and to respect club policy and my comfort level.
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Originally Posted by onlythebest
I never understood why guys ask us this. Have they taken the time to think that swapping body fluids with multiple people is gross???
Um... no. Obviously, multiple people don't register in the mental picture. Then again, I dunno, maybe it's a compliment to me that they don't believe I'm swapping body fluids with multiple people.
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Originally Posted by onlythebest
If sex did happen in strip clubs like they think,they should also ask themselves,"How many guys have already done this chick tonight???"
Yeah, just like they ask themselves, "How many other guys has this chick told tonight, 'you're not like all the other creeps here'?" If they can suspend disbelief on that level, they can certainly extend the "fantasy" to sexual encounters.
Not defendin' it; I'm just sayin'.
-Ev
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evan_essence
First of all my club doesnt allow lapdancing by NSW law there is NO touching or customer interaction (but some skank clubs try to push this).
At our club we topless dance then do full nude in private rooms (which have open doors, security cams & alarms). I dont deny that some sneaky little skanks dont do extras but our management REALLY frowns on this. Our owner recently fired a drunk dancer for getting fingered in a private room but not before (publicly) screaming at her "I'm not gonna loosing my licance over a whore like you!"
I dont get offended by getting asked of sex every 2mins but I hate the ones that dont take "NO!" for an answer & continue pushing or become rude & insulting & in some cases following me around the club (hoping I'll change my mind....?!?). Thats when my bouncer buddie steps in.
Maybe I should stop refering to him as my "pimp" (undercover cop.......*eek*). But this has been the most effective (& hilarious) was of getting rid of pushy drunken dickheads!
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In NSW they do private dances on a podium in a room type of situation. They can't actually be on a customer's lap or interact with the customer as kitten has stated. Then again, you can go up to QLD ... and in particular Brisbane and Gold Coast (Sth East QLD) where the guys are allowed to touch everywhere except inner thigh, groin, anus and vagina. Most of Australia has lap dances whether it is in a private booth type of room or a shared room with couches.
Okay now that is explained. The solicitations laws, as best as I know them, is that a dancer can be 'busted' for solicitation if we hand out business cards, our number/email etc.
If we just tell someone to "go consult him over there" and point to the bouncer. No you cannot be 'busted' for anything as you, the dancer, are kinda acting 'dumb' in relation to his request therefore you're not encouraging it nor are you deny-ing it. ;)
OTOH, if you say "go consult my pimp over there" then you have a chance of being 'busted'.
OTOH again... we don't really have 'vice cops' instead we have undercover liquor licensing officials who try to 'bust' dancers and thus 'bust' the club. Most clubs are not silly enough to encourage this type of behaviour therefore it only really exists in the brothels themselves.
What is interesting to note is that in Canberra there is really only one strip club with the other "gentlemen's clubs" really being brothels. They do have 'menus' beyond stripping and it is all legal as it is classed as a brothel.
Here in Australia, if anyone approaches you about OTC activities or even activities that are illegal inside the club... just give them a slap of reality. It always works.
YOU: If I let you to lick my boob.. what's to say that I havn't let the last 5 guys lick my boob... so are you prepared to swap spit with those last 5 guys in order for me to allow you to lick my boob?
It's a little long however it works for me :)
Worst comes to worst just excuse yourself and find a bouncer. If the club is smart, it will remove the patron immediately.
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Originally Posted by KittenCaboodle
First of all my club doesnt allow lapdancing by NSW law there is NO touching or customer interaction (but some skank clubs try to push this).
I understand. What's allowed, or what goes unenforced, varies from state to state and location to location in the U.S., but some amount of contact, albeit one-way at many clubs, is more common here than it apparently is where you are. Therefore, your and my experiences vary some, thus the slightly different perspective. Yet I suspect, overall, we've got more in common than not. No matter what the boundaries are at any given location, some customers are going to try to push them, so we all can relate to venting about such behavior. Regardless of any related opinions I bring up, I never want to put a kabosh on venting about bad behavior. ;)
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Originally Posted by KittenCaboodle
At our club we topless dance then do full nude in private rooms (which have open doors, security cams & alarms).
Sounds ideal to me, but again, the physical configuration and the degree of enforcement within the "private" area varies by club here.
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Originally Posted by KittenCaboodle
"I'm not gonna loosing my licance over a whore like you!"
Wow. That would be music to most dancers ears in this forum, but alas, you'll read tales here of managers being less than active in that regard. And tales about the brunt of punishment being aimed at the individual dancers who get caught, not at the club operators. And for the record, I'm not one to stray outside club norms, or my comfort level, whichever is more conservative, nor do I stay long in an environment where standards start progressively slipping. On the other hand, I'm not exactly bringing new heights of angelic behavior to the workplace. :-*
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Originally Posted by KittenCaboodle
Maybe I should stop refering to him as my "pimp" (undercover cop.......*eek*). But this has been the most effective (& hilarious) was of getting rid of pushy drunken dickheads!
I think it's delicious. 'Twould be a shame to allow worry that the humor could be misinterpreted by law enforcement to ruin the fun of a clever, effective retort. But, obviously, do what you think's best in your situation.
-Ev
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my advice is this:
*where the hell would I keep all the condoms I would need to service every guy that wanted to poke in me, let alone in this outfit?
then go into the whole< what makes you so great for me to cut out the 12ft rule to let you get that close> question.
that leads to a "well honey I could reach you from here, heh heh heh" so he can save face to those around him
add in your best <you are full of shit> girly face
*this will result in two outcomes
1. he leaves you along and spend on another girl
2. fallows you around still trying, but also spending money on you to prove you wrong
**advice I have gotten
use your maybe
get him to buy a dance when he askes
"buy a dance and lets get to know each other"-you dont say no or yes, and nothing is said outside the clean dance buying diolouge
add a few more dances, then leave for your stage set
when he comes to you to leave with him for the night, be by a bouncer and loudly tell him the you never said yes, or other witty shutout. the bouncer will kick him to the curb for you and walk you to you car/ride and make sure you get out of the parking lot with out a hasel
** this results in
1.lots of dances from one guy...less work trolling for custys with money wanting to be spent
2.a way to get him away from you at the end of the night
3. be aware though that rape is a crime of opportunity....after you piss this guy off dont make it possable for him to fallow you home or get near you outside the safty of the club.
I find this works better than the fallowing none money optitions:
-I have my period
-I am gay (even if you really are...unless you say you cant do anything with your other half...that sometimes works, but is risky of getting busted)
-I have a bf/gf
as a rule if I am in a craby mood and they are hounding me, I let my inner bitch out.
;)
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well its bound too happen seeing as we are all dealling with drunk men and come on we are getting nude in frount of them..
this comment dont really bother me that much its bound to happen every where ya work .. the only time it really gets up my goat is when i get asked it like 3 times in a row ..
i just tend to say look im fussy not frustrated and walk off .. nost guys have their ego shoot down after that one ;)
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I cut some sex provider ads out of the Minneapolis Alternative paper, and a sex website, copied them, and when I work at small town clubs within 200 miles of there, I give some of the guys the ads telling them that a strip club is a place to enjoy dances and a few drinks, and that most of our guys who are horny drive to the Twin Cities for sex, since they have 100's of women to choose from. LOL.
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Foxey Sweetie I Understand What You Are Feeling. I Never Thought That In My Life I Would Be Jealous Of Sluts. At My Club Girls Say A Bad Dayshift Is $500!!! I Do Not Do Extras So Anything Over A Hundred Is Mind Blowing. There Is One Girl Who Makes Over 2000 A Dayshift, But I Seen Her Having Sex With Guys In The Nude Rooms. Some Times I Look Over At The Girls Who Are Slutty And I See Them With Thousand Dollar Bags Or Brand New Diamonds. One Girl Brought Her $3000 Dog To Show It Off To All Of Use. I Get So Mad I Call My Boyfriend Crying And He Is So Sweet He Tells Me Why Should I Cry Because I Think More Of Myself Than Those Other Girls Who Just Let Five Or Ten Guys Finger Bang Them For Ten Dollars. So Now I Try To Feel Bad For Them Instead Of Jealous. Because I Rather Know That At The End Of The Day I Did Not Catch A Std. You Are So Much Better Than Those Other Girls, Cutie Pie!!! Be Proud Of Your Self!