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So this is a private dance?
I recently was given my first private dance.
I was a little drunk at the time. The girl asked me if I had ever had a dance before. I told her that I had not. I asked what the rules were. She said it was private, she would be closer to me, there could be touching. I reluctantly agreed.
When we got back to the private section, I sat down with my knees together. She corrected me, pushing my legs open. She leaned into me and surprised me by rubbing her leg against my crotch. She was so close, it was almost impossible not to touch her. I asked if that was ok. She told me I could touch anywhere but her "naughty" parts. I remember my hands finding their way to her hips and waist. She changed positions a couple of times. The only consistent feature of the dance was her constant grinding against my now erect penis. I began to think she was really trying to get me off. I wasn't looking for sex. I told her that was good enough. She stopped and sat on my lap. She asked if I wanted more. I said I would like to talk to her. She questioned if I wanted to stay back in the private section. I asked her If I could buy her something from the club menu. She said she wasn't hungry.
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Re: So this is a private dance?
No honey. It's not a real dance unless she is hungry.
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After a few more dances she may have become hungry. Once a girl gets you into PD world the goal is to keep you there as long as possible. Conversation can be had as long as the cash keeps flowing.
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Re: So this is a private dance?
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Originally Posted by Totoro
I was a little drunk at the time. The girl asked me if I had ever had a dance before. I told her that I had not. I asked what the rules were. She said it was private, she would be closer to me, there could be touching. I reluctantly agreed. When we got back to the private section, I sat down with my knees together. She corrected me, pushing my legs open. She leaned into me and surprised me by rubbing her leg against my crotch. She was so close, it was almost impossible not to touch her.
it's amazing how these rookies are always the same. no matter how reluctant and frightened they seem to be about getting their first lap. they always seem to keep their wits about them long enough to ask about the rules. they're such terrified little gentlemen. next time, don't bother asking and just start grabbing, rook. you'll figure them out sooner or later. strippers tell customers all kinds of things about the rules and then proceed to break them.
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Originally Posted by Totoro
I asked if that was ok. She told me I could touch anywhere but her "naughty" parts.
hey, didn't she cover that in your first rules talk? so, you don't have to keep asking for permission to touch.
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Originally Posted by Totoro
The only consistent feature of the dance was her constant grinding against my now erect penis. I began to think she was really trying to get me off.
no, she was trying to get you to buy more dances. although, if she starts saying things like,"do you want me to stop moving?" or "go ahead, let it go". now, she's trying to get you off.
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Originally Posted by Totoro
I said I would like to talk to her. She questioned if I wanted to stay back in the private section. I asked her If I could buy her something from the club menu. She said she wasn't hungry.
well, she's not looking for sex, convo or a meal with you. it's not a date, rook. she just wants to sell you more dances.
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Originally Posted by Totoro
I recently was given my first private dance.
I was a little drunk at the time.
Ooh boy.
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The girl asked me if I had ever had a dance before. I told her that I had not.
Uh-oh.
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I asked what the rules were. She said it was private, she would be closer to me, there could be touching. I reluctantly agreed.
Reluctantly? Dude, I think you dropped your Y chromosone back there.
:O
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strippers tell customers all kinds of things about the rules and then proceed to break them.
Truth.
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1) I have chatted up dancers before. I have eaten with dancers on occassion. Both are completely legal ways of earning tips.
2) I doubt that grinding against my crotch for a tip is legal. If that is what I wanted, I would have gone to a prostitute and not a club.
3) This was my first dance. Live and learn.
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2) I doubt that grinding against my crotch for a tip is legal. If that is what I wanted, I would have gone to a prostitute and not a club.
Clearly, you've not been to many clubs--at least not any good ones.
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well, he may be from some area where they do podium/air dances exclusively or something. or he may be one of those customers who is repulsed by grinding dances of any kind (they do exist, just aren't terribly common in america anyhow).
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Originally Posted by Totoro
2) I doubt that grinding against my crotch for a tip is legal. If that is what I wanted, I would have gone to a prostitute and not a club.
Heh. Heheheh. Not that calling it a lapdance was any indication whatsoever of what one could reasonably expect.
Surely I don't also have to explain why she took her clothes off.
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1) I have chatted up dancers before. I have eaten with dancers on occassion. Both are completely legal ways of earning tips.
Oh yes, Spanky, we know your type. Come to the club, buy drinks for every girl within shouting distance, buy dinner for anyone, spend hours chatting and never spend any real money because you are their "friend" and that would be disrespectful. You know, like they were strippers or something. You are convinced you're the king of the club and all those strippers who ignore you are simply antisocial. It never occurs to you that perhaps there is a reason the girls you hang out with for hours on end incessently talk about how the crowd sucks and they aren't making any money, and that they talk about their lack of money every night, while the antisocial strippers who fail to appreciate your stellar company walk by again and again to give those nasty lapdances. Yep. We know your type.
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to be fair, lilith, he could be one of the small percentage of customers who likes to pay for hanging out at a similar rate to what would be paid for lapdance after lapdance. some guys will do 20/song to talk or pay you to eat there at the club with them and not be jerks about it.
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Originally Posted by Lilith
Heh. Heheheh. Not that calling it a lapdance was any indication whatsoever of what one could reasonably expect.
Surely I don't also have to explain why she took her clothes off.
Oh yes, Spanky, we know your type. Come to the club, buy drinks for every girl within shouting distance,
Did I say something about buying drinks?
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buy dinner for anyone, spend hours chatting and never spend any real money
Did you miss the part about those being ways for a dancer to get tips. I do pay them for their time with real money.
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because you are their "friend" and that would be disrespectful. You know, like they were strippers or something.
If I was their friend, I don't think they would appreciate me being in the club in the first place. That's not a "money" thing, that's an "I feel awkward about my friends wanting to see me dance naked." thing.
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You are convinced you're the king of the club and all those strippers who ignore you are simply antisocial. It never occurs to you that perhaps there is a reason the girls you hang out with for hours on end incessently talk about how the crowd sucks and they aren't making any money, and that they talk about their lack of money every night, while the antisocial strippers who fail to appreciate your stellar company walk by again and again to give those nasty lapdances. Yep. We know your type.
You are just reading way too much into what I wrote.
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Originally Posted by miabella
to be fair, lilith, he could be one of the small percentage of customers who likes to pay for hanging out at a similar rate to what would be paid for lapdance after lapdance. some guys will do 20/song to talk or pay you to eat there at the club with them and not be jerks about it.
Thank you Miabella. I just don't see the Custy/Dancer relationship as HAVING to be adversarial. There is no reason we have to disrespect each other. Strippers don't always cheat their customers. Customers don't always try to steal services without paying.
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Originally Posted by miabella
to be fair, lilith, he could be one of the small percentage of customers who likes to pay for hanging out at a similar rate to what would be paid for lapdance after lapdance. some guys will do 20/song to talk or pay you to eat there at the club with them and not be jerks about it.
I'm like that. Its never an intentional thing really. I go in, I end up chatting up one girl and sooner or later you need to realize that the money has to flow for her to stay. Lapdances definatly arent out of the question but I just do what I feel like doing, if I want a drink and the dancer to chill while I drink, I buy her one, and tip her. Or If I wait for the LD I'll tip better. But I think, subconciously, I do it because if there is a believed mutual sense of comfort, I'll get a much better dance because, she knows I tip well and knows enough about me by know to know what I like.
I say this because I always drop hints on the floor to see how they are played out in the LD area :D It is because of this that if the crotch gets some grindage I wont question it.
I remember starting tho, and my first LD. hehe didn't leave me with odd thoughts, however I know that questioning them, or even looking for truth in the situation is beyond what I go to the club for. I go to relax, not dismember some relationship that may or may not exist.
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Let me start this post by bringing up something that happened to me my first night in OZ, a new dancer that night sat next to me, mid evening, she leaned in and kissed me tongue blazing, I was petrified, the paranoia was like "omg does she do this with everyone, what if she was sick blah blah blah" so, to test the theory I paid 40 to watch her kiss a waitress figuring they know eaxh other better than I do, so if they did it I was safe. Realizing the flaw in my logic, I left to get scope and came back.
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Originally Posted by Totoro
Did I say something about buying drinks?
No, you did say something about being drunk. You didn't buy her drinks but ya would have bought her a meal?
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Originally Posted by Totoro
Did you miss the part about those being ways for a dancer to get tips. I do pay them for their time with real money.
Good man. I tried the monopoly thing once. Did NOT go over well. Receipts don't work either. Ask Katrine.
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Originally Posted by Totoro
If I was their friend, I don't think they would appreciate me being in the club in the first place. That's not a "money" thing, that's an "I feel awkward about my friends wanting to see me dance naked." thing.
Not all dancers are cut from the same mold.
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Originally Posted by Totoro
You are just reading way too much into what I wrote.
You read too much into your first LD. thats why this thread is here.
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Okay, she doesn't want someone to buy her dinner, she wants money. She's at work. And yes, that is what a private dance is. If you don't want a "contact" dance, you need to specify that to the dancer before she starts. When you go to a strip club, you're not there to make friends. You're there to get a dance, and the girl is there to give it to you. That's her JOB. I think you're freaking out about nothing. It's just a lapdance... I can tell you exactly what was running through the girls mind who was giving it to you.
Girl, "Would you like a dance?"
You: "sure!"
Girl thinks, "sweet. Hopefully he buys a few so I can make 100 bucks of him"
You think "oh my god! I'm gettng a dance...what's the meaning of it all?"
Girl starts dancing and thinks "Dooop-doop-doop...how much longer is this song...wow, this guy seems kinda scared...hmm....doop-doop-doop...I hope he gets another one."
You: "Can you just stop dancing?" *oh my god, she's giving me a hard on*
Girl: "sure" *shit, what did I do wrong?* Would you like another one now?"
You: "No, but I can buy you something from the club menu!"
Girl "Uhh, not hungry" *But if you'd like to give me the 20 dollars you would have spent buying me dinner, I'll take it! I'm not hear to make friends I'm here so that I can pay my rent*
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All good points Mastrodonicus. I was just trying to clear my head by writing down the experience. Probably more thought than it deserved.
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Originally Posted by Mastridonicus
I go to relax, not dismember some relationship that may or may not exist.
Words to live by.
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Originally Posted by vegasbebe
Okay, she doesn't want someone to buy her dinner, she wants money. She's at work.
No harm in asking. Others have said yes.
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And yes, that is what a private dance is. If you don't want a "contact" dance, you need to specify that to the dancer before she starts.
Well I know that now.
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When you go to a strip club, you're not there to make friends.
I totally get the friendship thing. I guess you must run into a lot of guys who don't because everyone keeps bringing that up.
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You're there to get a dance, and the girl is there to give it to you. That's her JOB.
Actually I am there to have good time. She is there to make money. As long as we don't break any majors laws, and both accomplish our goals, I don't see how it matters if she dances, talks, or eats a meal with me.
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Originally Posted by Totoro
Actually I am there to have good time. She is there to make money. As long as we don't break any majors laws, and both accomplish our goals, I don't see how it matters if she dances, talks, or eats a meal with me.
Agreed, I've bought favs dinner at the club and chatted with them through the 2 for 1 dance special. They ate while they could have been grinding me for half price-but sometimes that's the only break they get all night. I paid my retired ATF $25 a song in VIP to sit on my lap and chat with her dress on for the last six months that she danced.
Totoro, though I'm a bit shocked at your naiveté about this whole episode I would have to agree that, as long as you are paying a woman for her time -and since she's sitting with you I'm assuming she feels adequately compensated, no one is getting hurt here. I do however sense a bit of disdain in your assessment of the dancer and the dance that you originally posted about- that is uncalled for. The vast majority of dancers in contact clubs would barely make cab fair each night if they waited for the guys who just wanted to buy them dinner.
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Originally Posted by Totoro
1) I have chatted up dancers before. I have eaten with dancers on occassion. Both are completely legal ways of earning tips.
sure. plenty of customers pay strippers to sit with them, talk and eat. however, from your initial post. it doesn't sound like you made an offer (it sounds like you were more interested in protecting your chastity). so, unless she happened to be a mind reader and knew your intentions. why would she want to hang around you?
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Originally Posted by Totoro
2) I doubt that grinding against my crotch for a tip is legal. If that is what I wanted, I would have gone to a prostitute and not a club.
LOL.....my, that LD must have been quite an ordeal for you. on the one hand, you seem to act offended by her vulgar act and criminal behavior. OTOH, you wanted to pay her to sit with you, talk with you (and tell you that you are pretty, make goo-goo eyes, coochie-coo sounds, etc) and cut up your steak and feed it to you like a three year old. but hey, if infantilism is your perversion..fine. however, a stripper can satisfy all kinds of perversions, but it helps everyone involved. if you open your freaking mouth and be clear about what you want and that you are willing to pay.
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Originally Posted by Totoro
I have chatted up dancers before. I have eaten with dancers on occassion.
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Originally Posted by Totoro
This was my first dance.
So it wasnt your first SC visit, just your first PD? Do you also post as 'liberal cowboy'? He seems more interested in making friends also. LOL, where do you guys keep coming from? What's so offensive about a little cock grind anyways?
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I don't know who "liberal cowboy" is. I am a Yankee through and through.
Anyway your points are well taken. My post clearly expressed a level of immaturity and naiveté about this stuff. I don't have standing to make any complaints about her actions in this forum. As has been pointed out, what goes on in a club is a matter of personal responsibility. I am thusly accountable for what happens.
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I am not sure why some posters in this thread chose to dissect your post like they did. It seemed like a typical first "lapdance" experience with the exception of you offering her a bite to eat afterwards.
I'm surprised that she stuck around long enough for you to offer. Usually dancers disappear faster than light speed when the dance is over, you've paid up, and it's clear that you aren't going to get any more dances from her. I suppose it's plausible if you asked her while she was putting her clothes back on.
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Originally Posted by vegasbebe
You think "oh my god! I'm gettng a dance...what's the meaning of it all?"
Girl starts dancing and thinks "Dooop-doop-doop...how much longer is this song...wow, this guy seems kinda scared...hmm....doop-doop-doop...I hope he gets another one."
I can't stop laughing at this. So true.
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Originally Posted by JC2006
I am not sure why some posters in this thread chose to dissect your post like they did. It seemed like a typical first "lapdance" experience with the exception of you offering her a bite to eat afterwards.
Thank you. Everyone here who's experienced seems to think that there's a menu description of what you get with a private dance posted somewhere in the club. How is a first timer supposed to know? He asked the dancer what a private (note, the dance was characterized as private, not "lap" as some of you seem to be saying should be self-evident what that implies) dance entails and got a vague answer. Now, we all know by experience that this is the only kind of answer he's going to get when he asks that question, but how would he know that the first time? Not everyone spends their free time doing Internet research on the topic or watching G-String Divas. He tried to inquire of the dancer. Kinda hard to specify what you want when you didn't know you'd get something that surely isn't legal and weren't told the details. And in spite of our understanding that it's the only way of making money so it has become standard operating procedure, it's likely it's not legal in many jurisdictions, and therefore, it shouldn't be a surprise if an inexperienced customer occasionally is caught off guard for not realizing that some dens of iniquity operating publicly aren't generally well regulated. (After all, casinos are. Strictly so.)
Sure, an opening post of this type could be a troll post, but now that we've seen the followups, this does not appear to be the case this time.
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