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it might if you give a typical scenario
maybe you are leading up wrong or something
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I would just go up to a guy, and talk for a lil, and then go in for the kill, and more often than not got turned down, don't know if it is just a bad time of year or what. When I did get dances a lot of guys only got 1 dance.........
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have you noticed what the other girls do that you dont?
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I guess when I asked is because I wondered what your small talk is like.
I mean, is it directed towards anything, or jsut random chit chat?
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I suspect that either you're giving less 'action' than other girls in the club, or you're not projecting enough confidence, or your small talk is too random. Or some combo of those.
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Yea it's also good to fill out your customers. I think some times you should able to tell when a custy is really feeling you. Just by his body gesters, and expression. When I see the guy acting like that, after a little conversation then I know I have them. But it depends on your confidence level, you just have to be sure in your self.
Name some of your approaches. And if possible switch up your style, find what works for you. Every custy is different, so read them. Ask questions and let them do all the talking. Make them feel like your really interested in knowing about their life. I dunno, keep it up, you'll find your hustle!
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It also might be more helpful to us if you could provide some additional details other than "talk for a lil". Can you give us word-for-word what a typical scenario would be like? Nobody can help you by just spectulating on what you might be saying. For all we know, your "talk for a lil" might be a conversation about toe fungus.
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ok I went up to this one guy, I had been flirting w/ all day, he was playing pool and I went up to him, and asked him for a dance, he said he was waiting for my friend another dancer I was with. I ask them questions about where they are from, and a lot of the conversations that day were about Johnny Damon getting traded to the Yankees, I am a Sox fan, and it created some good conversation. I lost a few guys, due to the fact I had to go on stage, and then I see them w/ another girl. Like I said that day when I did sell dances I got either 1-2 dances max!!
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First of all, forget the pool players. Especially if you've been flirting with them all day and they haven't bought a dance yet! Not only are the pool players harder to sell in the first place, but by flirting with him all day you kinda ruined the sale by making yourself seem too 'easy'.
Try to keep to more sexy type convo, leading toward the subject of hot lapdances. Or just get straight to the point. I always found that if I spent too much time talking before popping the question, I either 1) blew his interest by making myself seem too 'real' or 'available', or 2) wasted too much time on a guy who wasn't interested anyway.
And try more flirtatious body language rather than verbal flirting and convo. Make eyes across the room. Pick your targets - look for who's checking you out as you walk by and approach them first.
Word your sale question more agressively, positively. "Can I dance for you?" for example, instead of "do you want a dance?" And slightly nod your head 'yes' as you're asking. You'd be amazed how much difference these subtle cues make - it's always easier to just agree with someone who's already telling them 'yes' ;)
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Most of the time, well, that I have noticed, when your in need of money, you never really make it. I've noticed that when my car payment is due, and I didn't save any money up, I tend to pressure the guys more without even knowing. Making the men feel unconfortable. Watch how much you pressure a guy, and be careful of the things you say to them. One wrong comment or phrase can turn a guy away completely. I try not to say much. Being touchy with them, rubbing their face or hugging them, that seems for less conversation. Guys love to be babied.
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You have the looks and personality so , most likely was not any of those things that caused the men not to buy dances....i believe you were just having a bad night,just one of those nights and it wasn't anything about you ,that caused that.Hang in there im sure the next night you work you will do very well....we all have had nights like that and it just might have looked like all the other girls were doing so good but probably weren't either.......i think it was just a bad crowd.
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yeah it could've just been a bad night, in general. bad timing, group of guys, etc. do you usually do well? i had one of those nights last night, actually. the timing was horrible, and i didn't have any regulars to save me!! nobody knew or was interested enough to wait for me or tell another dancer that he was waiting. we all have nights like this. as long as this is not continuous. if it's continuous, i would reevaluate my hustle.
good luck
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I have to reiterate what Bridgette said about your choice of guy, maybe making that the problem.
What you talk about, however, could also be the issue, i guess i am having a hard time imagining what that could be. For example, i walk up to a guy (usually target more on the guys who make the eye contact with me on stage, AND respond to my smile), and begin with intros, then go right into why they came in, "So what brings you in tonight?" and those that respond with boredom i jump right in for the close, because bored guys mean they are looking for something to occupy their time. if they are in to get a beer i sorta assume they arent into dances but i may make small talk (such as what they do for a living, or how their weekend is/was) and then ask if they want to join me for some fun. If they "just wandered in" or got brought by friends, i ask if they have been told how they club works ie, if girls collect tips, how much laps and vips are, get it all on the table and just judge the reaction.
hope that helps...