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When they don't speak English
Ok, we get many travellers at our club, and I can deal with broken English to a degree, but when a man speaks essentially no English at all? I don't know if it's even worth it to try and hustle him. I managed to bring one japanese gentleman in on a dance the other night, but I ended up taking his hand and walking him to the back...but when it came to explaining the dance rules, how I would dance "when the next song started" (pointing to the sound system was only more confusing), if he wanted more dances...it was almost too frustrating to be worth it. Are there any effective ways to communicate without speaking the same language? Can you possibly hustle with such a huge communication barrier? I just lose patience.
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If you are encountering a lot of customers who speak a different language, what about hiring a tutor to teach you a few key phrases? For example, in French:
I touch you, you don't touch me.
Je vous touche, vous ne me touchez pas
I'll start with the next song.
je vais commencé à la prochaine chanson.
do you want another?
voulez-vous un autre?
but of course I cant tell you how to actually pronounce it...
It seems that it could pay off fairly easily, one hour of a language tutor's time is probably less than the money from two lapdances.
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There is one particular regular customer (Hispanic) in our club who barely knows any English. I had tried to ask for dances (using hand gestures and a smile) and though it was obvious he understood, he always turned me down. He seemed very nice, and worth my time, so I took the time to hunt down someone who knew how to ask for a dance in Spanish. The simple act of taking the effort to learn how to ask in his native tongue earned me a big smile and several dances. Now I always ask him in Spanish and it is rare he does not spend money on me. For more dances, I just ask "One more? More twenty." in Spanish, again. Rules are tougher to get across with some, but he is one of the few good guys who stopped unwanted behavior immediately with me simply moving his hands, face, etc away and gently saying "no".
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When dancing for or hustling asians, i find that signalling is the best way to communicate, they quite often use signals in their mother country to talk, there fore they are usually able to understand it when you signal to them..
I had 1 very regular asian customer that only came back to me due to the fact the other girls were to ignorant and/or lazy to TRY to communicate. Thus leaving me to be able to reap the rewards. I found that he often bought in his business friends etc making it very much worth my while to establish a first contact with him.
IMO you should always approach the customer whether english speaking or not, you will find that the more efffort you put in the better and easier the money seems to come.
Also i found that if 1 asian non-speaker had a dance, generally a few other non-english speaking gentlemen will follow.
Also look at web sites like www.wordlingo.com and learn basic words like hello, no, yes, thankyou etc in basic languages ie. Japanese, chinese. the older asian men in particular love hearing a girl speak their mother language even if it just a few words. dont worry about learning the different dialects as most of them can speak several languages.
Hope that is any assistance to you
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I've given a lot of dances to men who didn't speak English. Obviously, in California many people only speak Spanish, but luckily I speak enough spanish to generally communicate what I need to say. Dancing actually has helped me get better. There are also many Asian men who come into our club Strangely enough, many of them speak Spanish. But still, there are those I have no hope of speaking to. I still give it a shot.
One trick a dancer taught me was to take $20 out of my box, show it to him, and motion to myself in my bikini. Then take another $20 out, point to my top, and gesture no. Then take another $20 out, point to my top and bottom, and gesture no. Very emphatic about the nakedness in gestured language. Big smiles.
It works.
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Dlabtot, that's funny, because I actually do speak some French, haha. I live too close to Quebec to avoid it. But I get what your saying. We get so many Asian customers, it might be worth my while to pick up some key phrases (thanks m2w), but I've also encountered men from the world over, so I wanted to find I way I could communicate without learning every language...that said, most European travellers have some basic English or French. Thanks for the gesturing advice, Autumn- very useful.
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Last weekend I got a very young Mexican immigrant who spoke little English. He was with a group of American coworkers I'd been dancing for so at first I thought he'd speak English and approached him normally. When I asked him his name he answered with heavy Spanish accent, so I asked where he was from, and he again answered heavily Spanish - so I asked how long he'd been living here, and he didn't understand. I speak pretty fair Spanish so I switched over and asked him again; he immediately warmed up much more "oooh", answered me in Spanish and we continued the rest of the convo that way. He got 2 reg dances, and when one of his coworkers went to VIP, he wanted to go with me. I made $200 off this 22yo guy because he liked me and I could hold a conversation with him. I know damn well if I hadn't been able to speak to him in his language he wouldn't have spent so much. And he was VERY nice and respectful, even moreso than his American coworkers.
If you can learn even a couple phrases in other languages, it helps alot.
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Originally Posted by mollyzmoon
Dlabtot, that's funny, because I actually do speak some French, haha. I live too close to Quebec to avoid it.
I guess we might as well forget about getting the French pronunciation right in that case... ;) lol
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Maybe we could put together a "dancer's phrasebook" with the most useful words and phrases in a bunch of languages. It might be a useful thing to add to the web site here. I have a friend who is studying Japanese, and I think she would be willing to help.
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There is actually a thread already with a bunch of useful spanish phrases. If one does a search they'll find it.
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I live in LA - the land of Spanish speaking Americans! I can sort of read Spanish phrases sometimes, but it is very difficult for me to understand a lot of it when it's spoken. As far as trying to speak the language, I am seriously pitiful.
One day I was sitting by the bar, and attempted a conversation with a Mexican guy who only understood dollar amounts, but very little English on the whole.
He also seemed to understand the concept of a private dance, when I motioned in the direction of the VIP room. I said "25" and he said, "20", to which I replied, "25". We went back and forth like this for about 30 seconds (while he tried to communicate in Spanish, and I in English) until I got annoyed and started to get up. The guy actually touched my arm, looked me in the eye and said, "25".
(weird, huh??)
So I do an LD for him, get up and by this time we seem to have an amicable chemistry. He points to his Corona and then points to me and I took this as him wanting to buy me a drink. So I sit back down at the bar with him and ask him to teach me some words in Spanish by pointing to various articles of my clothing and saying "En Espanol". By the end of our time together, I learned a few words and made a little money.
Although the price haggling was strange and somewhat irritating, I think he would come back and ask me for another dance because I took the time to understand him.
In other instances such as this, I am a little more patient than I was that time. I speak slowly (if they understand a little English), smile a lot, and use hand gestures. Sometimes it helps to ask the waitress for a pen and napkin to write numbers down.
I find most of the Hispanic men in my club to be very tolerant of my lack of language skills as long as I smile, use body language and hand gestures. They usually get the picture.
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Originally Posted by EroticAngel
Maybe we could put together a "dancer's phrasebook" with the most useful words and phrases in a bunch of languages. It might be a useful thing to add to the web site here. I have a friend who is studying Japanese, and I think she would be willing to help.
There are "making out in ...(insert language here)" books which have phrases such as "lets go have some fun" "do you have a condom?" Im not too sure who they are by, lonely planet or some other travel book mob, nor have I read them thoroughly.
I am multilingual and ALWAYS get more dances if I ask in thier native language, plus you come across as "worldly" to other customers, Ive had guys say "I heard you talking foreign languages, where are you from?" Then I explain that I grew up in Switzerland, but have lived throughout Asia over the last 5 years.
If anyone was keen on making a phrasebook Id love to help!
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Here in Texas, I bank off Spanish-speaking customers. They get frustrated that they can't communicate with the girls, so if you approach them, they're often grateful enough to buy several dances right away. (My Spanish is minimal, but I've learned "are you having a good time?" and "would you like a dance?") A phrase book for dancers would be awesome!
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I saw at http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26732 where Susan Wayward had posted about her web page "Susan's Handy Spanish Dancer Phrases" (http://www.rivercitykitty.com/spnphr.html). I e-mailed those to my friend Lindy and asked her for a Japanese translation. Does anyone have any other words or phrases they think would be good to include?
The University is on Christmas break for another week and a half or so. So it might be a few days before I here back from Lindy. I'm also talking to my computer genius friend Jim about how we could put some sound clips of the phrases on line.
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EroticAngel, that'd be terrific. Please let us know when you come up with something! I know I'd really benefit! Thanks.
I could also look into writing up Susan's phrases in French, if that would help anyone.
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Spanish, Frence, Japanese are the three languages that would be needed. Whilst the written word is fine and dandy we would need audio for those of us more inclined to learn orally than visually. ;)
Regardless, learning key phrases is a must. It allows you to be more market-able as you won't have to pass the non-english speakers by due to them not being able to speak english (and you not being able to say a few key phrases in their language).
;D
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I speak Japanese. What do you want translated?
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The phrases from my site that I have in Spanish.
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If you speak a little of someone's language, you already have a connection with them. They will appreciate that.
Just make sure you say what you want to say to them, rather than "I put a bunch of figs in my car." It might get a laugh or it might insult them. (Especially if they don't like figs.)
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I'll have it ready by the end of the day.
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Many Japanese who cannot communicate at all in English verbally can nevertheless read and write it a bit, especially using clearly printed block capital letters. All Japanese study English for a couple of years at their equivalent of the junior high (or middle) school level, and basically they are taught to read and write it rather than speak. Often the teacher doesn't even speak or understand verbal English to any useful extent. Anyway, some of them remember a bit of what they learned. So, while passing notes in a strip club is not likely to be the most effective or efficient way to hustle, you might give it a try if you are desperate. If your club sees a lot of non-English speaking Japanese customers for some reason, it might even be worth printing up some useful phrases in English and pointing at them one by one as a way to communicate.
-Ww
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They need to learn English well enough to ask for a LD.
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wwanderer, i wish had known that when the herd of drunken japanese businessmen came through. they were surprisingly decent to me (i am black) and even got some dances, but i really feel being able to communicate even in written form would have helped sell more time/dances with them. also i could have gotten some girls to approach them instead of keeping them in the club entirely by myself.
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I speak fluent Spanish and some French, but other than that, I rarely bothered if they didn't speak English. Primarily because in most other countries throughout the world (with the exception of the US, Canada and most Western European countries) strip clubs are basically brothels and they won't really shell out if they're not getting some.
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I don't speak any Japanese except for hello, please, and thank you...and have never had any trouble with Japanese customers, they love me!! There is always one who is more extroverted and wants to be the "life of the party". Go to him, he will send you to the appropriate guys, they often pass around the table.
I also do GREAT with younger Japanese guys. Remember, a 20 year old American has more in common with a 20 year old Japanese than either do with their respective parents. Talk about movies, music, and travel, use basic words, speak slower, but not retarted slow, and don't be suprised when communication becomes smoother.
I also really love guys from places like Hong Kong, Singapore, Vietnam, etc...they tend to speak english very well too!! And I've always done well with them, even when I wasn't blonde!