House Mom Done Wrong... Waaay Wrong
Hey girls!! Gotta rant and please, I ask for any and all advice on this... As Usual...
I loved my job as house mom - notice "loved"?? Yup. I was fired. Here's what happened.
One of the dancers I was starting to become good friends with was really excited about an "upcoming shoot" with Penthouse the early part of Jan this year. She told everyone she would be working at the AVN's and working with Penthouse and she asked me to go as her makeup artist since that is also what I do. First and foremost, I am a makeup artist.
I am totally pumped and and blown away because she tells me she will get me a job, no prob, with Penthouse since they are looking for a makeup artist and I immediately get my ticket. She tells me to get one-way since we'll be in Vegas Jan 3rd-9th, Penthouse will get our tickets, a suite and a flight to LA for more shoots then back home to San Francisco.
LIES LIES LIES!! I come to find out day two-ish onto day three-ish. First clue is that there is no photo shoot on the 3rd like she said. Her working at the AVN's is a lie along with our need to be at the awards which she didn't have passes for. All the people she told me she would introduce me to and have me working with ASAP I never got to meet and in fact, I never left the hotel room.
Friday, after 4 1/2 days I ask her about the lack of work and she freaks out. I ask her if I could go ahead and get my payment because I can't afford to be away from the club, away from home and away from anything non-consistant. She starts screaming at me and throws $600 in my face. I calm her down, put her to sleep and set the alarm for 11:30 pm for the Pimps and Ho's ball. She told me the ball would be my big chance to get work, BUT, I can't mention work or makeup AT ALL.
When she's asleep, I pack up my things and leave. I catch the next flight home. A few days later I get a call from her cousin telling me I have been fired from the club because the girl who invited me to Vegas said I robbed her, left her stranded, broke, etc. and next time I show up to work I need to get the crap beat out of me.
I was fired!! I couldn't believe it. There were people in the room watching the whole scene when this girl gave me the money!! My manager wouldn't speak to me, the girls at work are freaked about what happened, nobody believes this girl and it's known she has a major drug problem.
I sent her an e-mail trying to smooth things out again and her words were "fuck you, you fucking cunt, I don't care about you or your image and you will never work in the industry again..."
Nice. She's bad-mouthed me all along the West Coast. GRRR! All I want to do is makeup for adult entertainment and because I confronted her, she bashes me! Nightmares ever since I have come home and even worse now that I have no job. Girls, it's the start of a new year. Please tell me it will get better.
:( :-\ :'(
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Take it as a lesson learned. If she wanted to hire you as her MUA, then you should've been paid. Not go on a whim with some stranger with "big dreams" Life isn't fair, but it sure as hell is a LEARNING EXPERIENCE. Take it for what it was...sit back and reflect on what happened and what you shoudl've done differently.
Yes, I'm very sorry that this happened to you. Hopefully you can undue the damage.
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wow. here's where the belief in karma kicks in. However, what have your managers said when you talked to them? If no one believes her, are you afraid to go to the club and force the managers to sit down and talk with you?
If they still won't hire you back, you'll just have to find the quickest job possible, but be up front with what happened and how you've been potentially blacklisted on the word of a psycho. This will be better than if you don't tell but it comes up later.
Good Luck babe. Hopefully the other girls will have some words of advice, since I've never had to deal with anything so serious in my career.
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I tried talking with the managers and they wouldn't see me or take my calls. I just want them to talk to me for my peace of mind. If I don't get my job back, fine. At least clear my name and that is all I want from her. I will check out those sites and see what happens! It was a major lesson learned. I felt soooo stupid too. I think what happened is, she brings in a lot of money to the club. She's always up in VIP. I don't tip out the club therefore, what good am I, really?? I've talked to my husband's cousin who is a lawyer and she is going to help me clear everything up. I made sure she understood I don't want money from this girl, I want her to keep her mouth shut and if it isn't too much to ask, admit she was lying!
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I was goingg to say the same thing about obtaining a lawyer . It's great that you got your lawyer so your name can be cleared...the 600 dolalrs you got paid for that time out should be your to keep though. Good Luck! Man that is really some story...
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Aleah, I feel bad for you. However, with all due respect, there's a big red flag in your statement, namely: "I calm her down, put her to sleep...When she's asleep, I pack up my things and leave"
How do you "put to sleep" a grown adult woman who just a few minutes prior was livid and screaming at you as she "threw $600 in" your face? Did you give her some sleeping pills or something?
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I have to say, if she paid you, and was counting on you, you shouldn't have taken the money and left.
You left yourself open by not being paid upfront.
She was way stressed, this was her moment to shine, not yours. I can see how you were probably taking up to much space. You were HER enterage. She tried telling you to shut up, but you didnt listen. You let yourself get paranoid, perhaps rightly so, but there were warning lightbulbs for both of you in your story.
Good luck finding another job, or getting rehired. I'm sure your very talented.
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^^ Thats what I was wondering?
Didn't you have the guts to tell her that it wasn't working out as she had explained prior to the trip and therefore you were taking your money and going home? I see why you are upset, but there has to be reason that you didn't call your club after being in a situation like that and then not returning to your home club..... it just doesn't add up.
Just an example, when I went to CA with a friend to dance, she had set up 2 places for us to dance, well one fell thru so we didn't work for 3 days and basically fucked off. She said she would be able to get us a place to stay with an ex and we could dance our last 2 days there at a club he managed. Well it didn't work out that way because she wasn't ready to give up some ass (you know the saying, no one rides for free, ass, cash, or grass) so he decides not to hold up this deal. Well we get into a huge blowout because she is too ashamed to tell me the whole truth. I take a bus back here, but before I do I call the place we dance at and explain what happened so that I can come work as soon as I get back as well as get some solid advice from management so I dont' ruin my working relationship there if she and I can't get along.
So my understanding of why, if you were the wholey innocent party, you never even called your club to explain what was happening is a little blurry. It would have probably helped with the situation, they may have been able to hook you up with some people in Vegas so that you could make the most of your time there. Plus you probably would still have your job, and since you're the house mom they expect you to be upfront about shit. So the other chick calling before you told them what went down just added to your guilty look and is probably why you got fired.
Just my 2 cents.
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Im sorry but being a MUA yourself wouldnt you know that AVN and Penthouse have their own MUAs and dont have girls bring their own. Only time she would need you as a MUA would be for crappy little shoots but those big companies use specific girls because the girls already know the 'look' the mags need... not to sound totally rude but a little common sense can go a long way...
OTOH: there are many MANY shady agencies down here promising girls money, certain shoots etc.. she MAY have believed what she was told just to have her find out its all BS... so maybe she needs some sense too...because WHY would Penthouse shoot you having never seen you - duh...
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I would have run off, too.
Sometimes these things happen for a reason. Not just a "lesson," but because there's another door opening for you and you simply can't see it or find it unless some other door slams closed on you. It's hard to believe and sounds like a Hallmark card, but I've always found it to be true....eventually.
Good luck and best wishes for the coming year!
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On her side I would say she was grumpy because her dreams ... or at least aspirations were shattered. On your side I would say the industry - no matter which it is - will come to know her as a nutcase. Either way a story doesn't last long until the next great drama. Hopefully you won't be leading in that one too!
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I hear all of ya'll. She told me she was "in" with Penthouse and was going to get me a job with them which is why she asked me along. I "put her to bed" meaning, I calmed her down and NO PILLS WERE INVOLVED rather she had been up going to parties and then passed out when she downed some cocktails. Not my suggestion either. I did learn a lesson and about 15 minutes ago, sent her an e-mail asking her to talk things over with me now that some time has passed. About me not calling the club, well, this was business outside of the club so I didn't think to call right away. When I found out she called the club and accused me of robbing her, I did try and call and even went to the club to talk with managers. They wouldn't see me. It's a bad situation. I have never been in a scene like this before and it scared the hell out of me. Vegas scared the hell out of me. I wasn't prepared for her or any of it and I did try and talk with her but she and I are both very set in our ways and stubborn. Does that clear some of it up? She asked me to help manager her and her activities since I told to be very organized (another reason I freaked in Vegas) but she couldn't provide me with any information, contacts, itenararies, etc. I wasn't trying to steal her moment or her light - I was trying to find out where it was coming from!! It was so wierd. The trip was last minute, I was rushed, she was used to it, I wasn't. I'm not putting the blame on her, I never bad-mouthed her, I was hurt and confused and overwhelmed. Still am. I hope things were out enough so that there isn't bad blood. That's all I am asking for and all I can hope for.
Cheers, girls.
Thanks.
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Where any form of the adult entertainment business is concerned, three little words need to be kept in mind constantly - CASH UP FRONT ! Although it's possible that your friend believed the smoke someone else blew up her a$$, it's just as possible that she was suffering from self-delusion. As someone else posted, essentially ALL professionally managed adult photography/videos now use their own MUA's and their own photographers for that matter.
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I know, but she told me they currently didn't have a MUA and she was taking me to meet with them. Girls, you have all given me different ways to look at the situation. Of course I thought I was right and she thought she was right. Who knows now. I think she and I both lost out and now I am trying to correct it. In the future, true, I need to really look it over, perhaps get something in writing, payment up front, etc. I didn't want it to look like I "took the money and ran". Maybe that's what I did, maybe I even wrote that but it's not what I intended it to be. I just wanted to get back to my own way of living. IT wasn't very well planned and seemed to be getting worse. Of course, in my life, I never learn my lesson until I get bitten in the ass-cheeks.
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Oh, by the way, was was my posting moved? Isn't this in the "anything goes" department? Something I said?? Doh!
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You haven't said this, but when you mentioned that people were there to witness her throwing money, I made the ASSumption that you were asking them about jobs for yourself. She set herself up to be the go between because she liked the power, so when you didn't let her connect you, and you just took, you were ruining her power play.
I think you both were right, and you both were wrong, honestly. You just have different personalities that are hard to work together.
Mabe the 600 wasn't all you were supposed to receive, so it wasn't taking the money and running, dunno. Thats why you pay up front, or get it in writing(if its a you get it when she does) as to how much you will be owed, that way if you have to leave you can take whats do, and no one feels walked out on.
I'm sure you get this though. If it means anything, Ive screwed up similarly.
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aleah, you said that the girl was drunk when she threw the $600 at you before she went to sleep. maybe that was her only money left, and she wasn't thinking because she was wasted. i'm definitely not taking that liars side, but maybe she really was left stranded with no money.
there are so many clubs--so it's impossible for her to ruin you. ;) sometimes slashing tires makes people feel better. :P
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I agree, I doubt she will be able to "ruin" you. Especially if she is well known as you say she is. People generally only let those type of peoples behaviors slide when they aren't directly involved, in this case you were just way more involved than it sounds like you wanted to be. Pull yourself together and get out there and work for some other club, hold your head high, don't talk about the whole situation, just learn from it, it'll give you some inner strength knowing that you have moved on from it, so hold onto what you have learned.
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She wasn't drunk when she threw it, but not long after she was tanked. I think I mentioned I sent her a message just to get everything out. I wanted her to hear my side of Vegas and I was hoping she would tell me her side. It's working out well, I suppose. She's now dating Ron Jeremy and seems thrilled. The people that were in the room weren't employers. Actually one was a girl we knew and that angry girl said she could also get her into Penthouse. The thing is, she admitted she lied about Penthouse. She said she gave me the money out of anger and was pushing me to see if I would follow through with my leaving. People don't usually stand up to her or question her/the situation if it doesn't seem right. that's what I did. I asked to see a schedule or to get contact numbers to help keep her on track. She took that as a threat. The funny thing is, she admitted Vegas was a flop but I just saw a message from her to another girl we know asking her to meet her in LA because she will get her a job! The same thing she said to me. It's all too damn dramatic and confusing. I work so hard to keep my life simple and then chaos nearly drowns me for almost two weeks. Oy.
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Thanks again sooooo much!
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Originally Posted by Aleah
She's now dating Ron Jeremy and seems thrilled.
:yuck:
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OMG - I got offered $800 to do a scene with him (Ron Jeremy) and turned it down. Pissed Jim South off and he never booked me another shoot....
Yuck yuck and triple yuck.