Don't feel bad, Cally--there are guys who start threads like this to stir up trouble here--though it seems MgGee is for real, and really needed the advice.
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Don't feel bad, Cally--there are guys who start threads like this to stir up trouble here--though it seems MgGee is for real, and really needed the advice.
I'm disturbed by where this thread went in relation to others.
* So it's OK for most dancers to rub a guy off thought his pants with their body, but not okay to pose topless while he does it himself?
* It's acceptable to pose all nude for suicide girls, for hundreds of guys to jerk off too, for $300. But, you make one guy pay you once to jerk off while looking at you topless, and you're a whore?
ridiculous.
Hey, take it up with legislation.Quote:
Originally Posted by lunchbox
For me there is a difference between exotic dance, and being a model. Hell, I'm a model and I WILL NOT pose nude/semi-nude/sheer/topless no matter how much money YET I dance at a nude club.Quote:
Originally Posted by lunchbox
Secondly, there is nothing illegal about modeling. When models pose for suicide girls, and make $300, they shoot to gain more exposure. If I dance for some guy who wants extras, that's a one time deal. I'm sorry, but I am not going to risk going to jail because some guy want's to get off. Geez, go get an escort!
Again, take it up with legislation...
Hmm, ok. The first time, that happened to me, I was caught way off guard. The guy asked if he could please himself since I wouldn't do it, and I let him, as long as he didn't touch me at all. Still, it was a little awkward watching some guy get off to my image, and I felt dirty afterwards, like I'd done an extra. That's when I knew that it wasn't acceptable behavior.
Granted, I got a good laugh out of it the next day with friends, but still, I've never let it happen again. Some guys have started to take it out without permission, and I've stopped the dance and made them zip up. But most guys ask me beforehand if they can, and I tell them no.
I'm glad neither finished the job. I would have been uncomfortable with it, but really, until now, wouldn't have known how to handle it.
I'm talking about opinions on related behaviors, note the first line of my post.Quote:
Originally Posted by cinammonkisses
As far as what everyone does personally, I don't really care.
It certainly is strange your first time. I haven't been doing this much longer than you, but a couple months ago I was on my way to the bar for a drink when this guy with an A&M jersey asked me "Hey baby, can you give me a hand with this?". I told the bartender who immediately had the bouncer throw the guy out on his ass.
Egads. Ew. Just... ew.
If I EVER saw a penis near me at the club, it would be in a trash can VERY quickly.
Okay, the focus of this is control. The dancer can decided who she wishes to engage in heavy contact behavior. When the customer decides to masturbate, he has taken control of the situation, leaving the dancer helpless to perform a "dance".Quote:
Originally Posted by lunchbox
And when posing for a photograph that may or may not be used as fantasy fodder, is light years different then actually being in the same room as all those guys who are jerking off to your live person. That is as different as knowing that people die in war, and an entirely different situation to be present when people are dieing in war. Okay, bad anolgy, I know, but it illistrates my point.
Dictionary defintion of Whore:
1. A prostitute.
2. A person considered sexually promiscuous.
3. A person considered as having compromised principles for personal gain.
I feel that I am a defination #2 whore. In the past I have been a defination #3 whore, and have dabbled in defintion #1 w/o realizing that was what I was doing. I would just put a nicer name on it.
Granted--if all customers were polite about it!
So many are so rude--or simply just assume it's OK to whip it out--which is not only illegal, but rude by standard rules of social behavior between men and women--to say the least!
You might understand this better if you imagine your own sister, girlfriend, or maybe mom in this situation.
Most guys would instinctively want to kick the shit out of the asshole, lol.
Yep, that was what I was saying. Watching a stranger masturbate is not in anyway appealing to me. I don't get off on it. It is not sexy, rather it is revolting. I am much more comfortable keeping the control of the situation, hence the high price I charge for giving up that control.Quote:
Originally Posted by skanklover
I think you guys are being waaay to harsh on this girl. She works in Houston, unfortunately that's how it is. Same in South Florida, it's the business nowadays, that's why I'm quitting. You act like this behavior from a customer at a strip club is sooooo strange, of course it doesn't make it acceptable but whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cally
alicia... if you read further in the post I said I was sorry... I had never heard of this stuff happening without the guys asking... I didnt realise how crazy houston is :) I think I will delete that post now to save further missunderstandings.
Same in a lot of clubs around here, same in Detroit--same, I fear, in way too many clubs all over the country. And getting worse, as far as I can tell--except in my club, which seems to be improving. Maybe I'm just kidding myself, though.
This is why some dancers start treating all men like dogs--sad but true. If guys assume women are 'bitches' to be treated in such a fashion, they're gonna get some nasty treatment in return.
Ok I'm a newbie sorta well I'm gonna start dancing soon....And first off I'd like to say no other newbie should put up with a guy pulling his junk out and playing with it in front of you...It's called respect, that is just not exceptable...Yea a guy goes to a club and sees a dancer and gets all worked up from the laps and all but no it's not ok for him to pull his shit out in front of you...I wouldn't put up with that if I ever have to deal with a situatation like that in the future...You better believe I will tell him to put it away or tell a bouncer. Have pride, don't lower your standards for an extra 20 or whatever the price...Or tell the guy yea you can do that but in the privacy of your own home take a mental picture and go home and do that shit haha
walk away.
inform management.
Yeah, in Houston the management will really care a lot about that. ::)
Look, the reality of the situation is that she's dancing in a city where many of her coworkers offer to sexually gratify the customer, often at bargain prices. While there are non-extras dancers there, there's also a lot of extras ones. This dancer has perhaps decided where her comfort level is, and if it includes allowing self-service while she dances, what she needs to know is how to do so safely and how to profit from it. The likelihood of being busted in a Houston club is also something she should be aware of although the level of activity that happens there routinely certianly wouldn't have been sustained if there was a sincere and coordinated effort by law enforcement to stop it, which there isn't, because it's Houston and they have other problems . . .
I'd say asking $100/song wouldn't get her far but hey, $100 for three songs should do it. Make sure he has a stack of napkins handy.
Also, you do have the option not to allow anything you're not comfortable with. Remember that.
Did you refer him to the nearest sheep pasture? }:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ginger Snatch