Does this happen often? Is there an understanding that you don't touch another dancers regular customers?
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Does this happen often? Is there an understanding that you don't touch another dancers regular customers?
I think that the guy is the one who decides that he is a dancer's regular by choosing to spend money on only that one dancer. He can only be taken by another dancer if he chooses to spend money on her instead. So, dancers can't really steal regulars.
There are a couple of girls at my club that have very loyal big spending regulars. New girls will ask these guys for dances not knowing they are so-and-so's regular and the guys always turn them down, most won't even talk to other dancers. I don't waste my time on guys like this because there is nothing for me to gain from it.
I think that sometimes the dancers forget that guys are in the club to have fun and sometimes they want variety. For dancers, thinking of someone as your regular just causes problems between dancers if the guy decides to try another dancer. For this reason, and because guys are not loyal to me, I try not to have regulars. Just causes me more stress.
You know I can understand dancers not approaching me when I'm there with my fave... but not asking for dances when I go in and she's not there? that makes no sense.
I dont usually b/c thats why they came to see that specific dancer. If they ask me to come over or join them...damn right Im going over there.
Theres no 'stealing' regulars imo only b/c you dont own people. You cant steal something someone doesnt own.
I agree. The only time this has happened to me was when I had an ATF a few years ago. Her two closest friends at the club would not approach me even when my ATF was on vacation for a month. Of course, after she quit they where both all over me within minutes of my entering the club. Ultimately customers decide who they will spend on but it doesn't mean there won't sometimes be some bad blood between dancers if a guy decides to "play the field" after being steady with one dancer for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by dlabtot
If a dancer has an established regular and it is commonly known in the club, then it is rude to approach him. Of course it is the guys decision to say yes or no to another dancer, but if you have been working at a club for awhile and know that when Hank comes in he only spends money and sits with on Suzette, it is rude to approach him, right?
^^^ well, perhaps the dancers think it is rude, I don't know, but from my perspective, it's a bummer that other dancers don't chat me up... I wonder when they'll figure out that the dancers other than my fave who do so are the ones getting 5, 10, and 20 dollar stage tips instead of singles.... of course in your scenario, Hank only spends money on Suzette which is slightly different from what Im talking about.
i haven't had any other dancers try to steal since my atf is also the club psycho
Whether I want other dancers to approach depends on my mood.
If I don't want them to approach and they do, I just tell them I'm not interested because I'm waiting for _______. Problem solved.
If I do want them to approach and they aren't. I go approach them. Problem again solved (usually).
So if the ATF is with another customer and I'm seated alone, I say its open season. I came for my enjoyment, not hers. The worst that can happen is I say no.
The reason I ask is because if I walk in the club on a slow night, my regular has to fight off the other girls with a stick, because all of them know who I am and that I spend alot of money. Then the entire time they are talking crap about my reg, and when they eventually leave for one reason or another, she talks shit about them
ugh I hate this whole dynamic in strip clubs.
I have custys who come in to see me on a regular basis, but if I see them talking to another dancer, I'm almost relieved in a way because I hate to feel that someone is so attached to me. I don't know if that's a bad thing or not, but HELLO it's NOT an exclusive monogamous relationship.
If I wanted to DATE that custy (not that I would ever date one), I might get upset that he was getting dances from someone else, but his money is not MY money.
It's up to him how he chooses to spend it.
For each guy who throws money at me, there are several more worth my time and energy. If my regulars are hanging out with other girls, I'm happy for the girl, and hope the guy still continues to tip me on stage. And they always do, because I'm not possessive. The whole situation is not worth getting upset over, IMO.
I know girls at my club who FREAK OUT and get pissy if their regular decides to tip me or even buy me a drink. I always say, "let me know when you're married to him and I won't talk to him anymore."
I have no problem buying any dancer in the place a drink.. even tipping.. but I am selective about who I want to actually talk to /dance with
... from my custy view - yes it happens very often. I don't think it bothers most dancers (except career/long term dancers) to move on a regular's customer.Quote:
Originally Posted by songofthesword
Nobody "owns" a customer. one of my regulars comes to see me from out of town and anyone is welcome to come to the table and chat, some will even ask for a dance. He always politley turns them down because he's there to see me. If he ever wanted to get a dance from another girl it wouldn't bother me. And if he deicides that he wants to spend time and money on another girl that means my time with him is done. After all, he did have another ATF before me. (for the reocord, I didn't "steal" him, she left the club).
Do you think that this is worse than not being asked for dances or having girls talk to you......One of my regs, a very good friend of mine BTW, comes in sometimes when I'm not there. I'll get phone calls saying that he's there and the first thing girls say to him is "why are you here, Susan's not working".
I pretty much agree if I know a guy sees a girl on a regular bases then I will leave him alone but if he calls me over then no problem will dance for him.I don't own him and you can't blame the girl.what about new girls who don't know the guys or girls you can't blame her either.Its all up to the customer.
When I first started dancing, I guess I "stole" a girls regular custy without knowing it at the time. I guess he had been her regular for over a year, and when I started working, he started talking to me and buying dances from me. I didn't even know what a regular was at that time... I just thought he was an interested customer. The girl ended up confronting me, and I got all upset over it, but after I thought about it for a while, I realized that customers can choose to be with whatever dancer they want. They may be one girl's regular for a while, and then decide to start hanging out with a different girl. I don't think you can "steal" a regular, because the customer chooses who he wants to spend his time with. You really can't force a customer to buy drinks or dances for you, it's his own free will.
It is OK to "steal" another dancer's regular if the dancer leaves the club for whatever reason, if the customer gets bored of her, or the regular wants a bit of variety inbetween visiting his regular lady (even better if he approaches you whilst she's not there, you don't want to get the icy stares).
Heck, I know I've done it.
I find this a very interesting topic. I have seen many problems caused by this situation. It is the guy’s choice who he spends his time and money on. It is also a little ironic in that most customers are married yet choose to be somewhat monogamous with one dancer.
A lot depends on the circumstances. In the club that I met my GF in many of the girls would call a girl when one of her good regulars came in. I will drive her sometimes to her current club and have dinner with her at the club. There are times that she will go in the back to get ready and certain girls will offer dances to me. Yes, I can easily say no, but it is not a good way to make friends. There are two dancers in particular that I have told no to over 20 times in the last six months. I do find that irritating, but it is my choice and saying no does not take a lot of effort or time.
I do not think that a dancer can steal a regular, but it can cause problems in the dressing room. I do know of one girl that was beaten up after work and could not work for 2 weeks.
Regulars can talk to whoever they want... but if I know he's there to see me, I have no problem whatsoever interrupting/joining a conversation he's having with someone else. In a nice way, if such a thing can ever be nice: "Heeyyyy, you making new friends? She's a sweet girl, isn't she? Well good, I'm glad you're having fun. Let me go give this other guy a dance/go up on stage/freshen up my costume and then I'll come sit. " I'll even encourage the guy to get a dance with the other girl as a warm-up. The "regular" thing is less about the man himself being one person's literal property than it is about a dancer actively marking her psychological property in the context of the club universe, which is a competetive one. Dancers make a significant portion of their earnings from guys that are, for whatever reason, unable to say no to us. The "regular" situation is often just an extended version of that... if other people are going to put themselves into it, I'm not going to overtly be a bitch about it, but I'm also not going to waste my time shooting icy looks at some girl who my regular is more often than not just too shy to dismiss himself.
And if another girl can trump me on this, more power to the better dancer... you know? I'm all for sportsmanship.
gee, that sounds like fun....Quote:
Originally Posted by dippidy dave
Never get too comfortable at work, there will always be some one who will do something left field when you least expect it, never rely on a small handful of customers for your money it can make you lazy (and poor) when they're not around and be aware of your investment vs reward ratio, don't give "regulars" more unpaid for time than is fair, I get my "regulars" by building a repore with them on their time not mine, my time investment is paid for. I do take the time to have a chat with them if they have had or are not having shows that night but it's usually a cigarette break, then back to work.
If a customer really is your customer then no-one can take him, if anything you won't be able to get rid of him.
I look at it this way too - if a guy is someone's regular then he is also the club's regular. I mean, he's in there on a regular basis. So to totally ignore him because he's so-and-so's regular is just bad business. I try to be friendly and at least say hello and ask how they're doing to acknowledge them. I don't spend too much time sitting and talking to them though because they're most likely there for their favorite girl. However, I'll usually ask for a dance the first time I chat them up just to see if there's a chance. If they pass and say they're waiting for the girl then each time I see them after that I just say hi, ask them how they are, and move on.
It usually works out that one day when their fav isn't there they'll buy from me because I was always friendly with them. Most of the time they remain "loyal" to the girl whose regular they were, sometimes they end up preferring me, but in the end just the small effort to say "hey, what's up!" can pay off.
I think that's one of the worst things women do, talking trash about each other to customers, just seems immature and tacky. No matter what your personal opinion about another girl you should keep it to yourself. The best way to keep/aquire regulars ACT LIKE A LADY!
It's ironic though, that being the victim of someone else's trash-talking is one of the hardest things to keep to yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by sexysweet
Spot on FemmeFatale.Quote:
Originally Posted by FemmeFatale
I also introduce my regulars to girls that I know in the club so when I am not there they at least have company if not a show, the guys appreciate it and it's another way I look after my regulars, gives the girl a chance to make money too and because I know her she will often return the favour, works out good for everyone.
One thing I do object to though is someone new to the mix being rude and butting in, it can put guys off.