Do your own dirty work......
I guess this is kind of a rant. Anyway, I'm at work the other night , it's a weekend night really packed and things are movin along just fine for me. I go to the restroom and as I'm coming out this gut who's also leaving the male restroom stops in his tracks, "oh my goodness, u are o beautiful, blah blah blah , I found the one I want to go to the VIPwith blah blah.." so I say, well I'll come join you at your table to which he replies" There's a young lady sitting with me right now and I don't want to be rude, I'll buy a dance from her than tell her that will be all,give me 15 min".
FINE.
I wait 15 min. and come back... girl is still on his lap. I'm asked to dance for these other guys about 3 feet away from the table where the customer and other dancer are. O.K.. The whole time I'm dancing this customer with girl still on his lap is motioning me to come over. WTF??? If you don't enjoy the company politely tell her you are not interested- don't use me to come over while she's still there and create a hostile environment. So after I'm done, I tap him and say " I'll find you a little later" and smile. I'm not sure if the other dancer heard me or not.. really doesn't matter. Anyhoo, I come back a 3rd time and he's alone, apologizing saying she just wouldn't leave and whatever. We go to VIP and come back to the floor for more dances ( I made a good amount of $$$) As I go to the dressing room, the other dancer confronts me about "stealing" her customer. Thats a whole nother story but the point is.
IF YOU ARE A CUSTOMER AND DO NOT ENJOY THE ENTERTAINER YOU ARE WITH AND/OR WISH TO SPEND TIME WITH SOMEONE ELSE ,GET SOME BALLS AND SAY SO. IT'S NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY AS A DANCER TO"GET RID" OF OTHER GIRLS.
I understand some guys do this purposly to feed thier ego and create drama but in this guy's case ( an older black man from South Carolina) I really think he just didn't know how to say no to a girl plopped in his lap and his inability to communicate his needs got me into conflict with another dancer on some bullshit.
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Pure, I guess I don't see why you are ranting. Granted, the guy didnt give the other girl the boot...who knows if his motives were as described to you. He may have been just trying to keep you on the string while he finished up with her. Give the guy some credit. In any case, in the end, you made some good money off of him in VIP. Sounds like a win-win to me.
Guys do that stuff all the time. They pretend like they are stuck in a situation when in fact they know exactly what they are doing.
FBR
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Pure I get your point but some girls are like Vice Grips, when they get on your lap. I'm a nice guy but when I know I'm not going to spend any more money on a girl I let her know. That loosens up the grip.
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I don't really know what his motives might have been. I do agree though that it is rude for people to expect others in the club to run on their clock, and get others involved in their drama. Time is money afterall and high maintenence dingbats tend to run down one's tolerance for such behavior.
Just be glad you made some dough off of him in the end.
:)
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Shits me aswell - I think some girls need to know when to give up gratiously too. However I am past caring generally, if a customer wants a show and asks me over I'll go. I'll be nice about it though so as not to make anyone feel bad or awkward. There's just no point waiting around twiddling your thumbs when you could be making $.
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i posted a situtation like this about a week and a half ago, pretty damn similar.
execpt I told the girl I had came there to see someone else, got up, went to the bathroom, got up again in the middle of her talking, tipped a dancer about 50 on stage, had my regular come and sit on my lap.. then when she finally said "you want to dance" i told her " I told you that i was here to see someone else, I figured you were just chilling because you didnt' feel like working" so she goes into this tantrum.. yes, a real life tantrum while at work and then switches and tells me how ugly I must think she is and how she hasn't made any money, etc.
I come back, I swear I wasn't even half way into my seat, so she comes and sits with me again and apologizes about how she was acting the night before.. only to do the same thing almost verbatium the next time, only this time she got madder because my regualr wasn't there so i went to my backup and not her.. I actually have two regulars because I can't decide which I like spending money on more
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Originally Posted by Pure
I guess this is kind of a rant. Anyway, I'm at work the other night , it's a weekend night really packed and things are movin along just fine for me. I go to the restroom and as I'm coming out this gut who's also leaving the male restroom stops in his tracks, "oh my goodness, u are o beautiful, blah blah blah , I found the one I want to go to the VIPwith blah blah.." so I say, well I'll come join you at your table to which he replies" There's a young lady sitting with me right now and I don't want to be rude, I'll buy a dance from her than tell her that will be all,give me 15 min".
FINE.
I wait 15 min. and come back... girl is still on his lap. I'm asked to dance for these other guys about 3 feet away from the table where the customer and other dancer are. O.K.. The whole time I'm dancing this customer with girl still on his lap is motioning me to come over. WTF??? If you don't enjoy the company politely tell her you are not interested- don't use me to come over while she's still there and create a hostile environment. So after I'm done, I tap him and say " I'll find you a little later" and smile.
But what if you had said "are you ready for that VIP now?" he could have just said yes, problem solved.
The key to this is a certain word in your title: work. You were at work - he was not. He was just there to have a good time. I'd say for me that there are moments at work that are excruciatingly unpleasant, but I put up with it because it profits me to do so... when I am out spending the money I earned by doing the 'dirty work', I have no desire to do more work, and I'm certainly not going to pay for the privilege.
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Originally Posted by aussiepunkshocker
However I am past caring generally, if a customer wants a show and asks me over I'll go. I'll be nice about it though so as not to make anyone feel bad or awkward. There's just no point waiting around twiddling your thumbs when you could be making $.
yeah, that's what I meant...
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sometimes even being nice about it isn't going to prevent people feeling bad or awkward. meh.
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I think Pure was in normal dancer work mode but I believe her anger was misdirected. The custy in question was likely playing both end against the middle. IMO she needs to recognize that customers can be as devious (for want of a better word) as strippers.
FBR
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I think you're entirely too concerned with what the other girls think of you.
If a guy is calling me over, I GO TO HIM, regardless of whether there's another girl there or not. As soon as the customer invites you over, any other girl there has lost her dibs. I will simply smile at both, tell the girl I was invited over, and if she doesn't get out of the way I'll sit down on his lap or right next to him. Usually the guy will turn his attention to you (he did ask you over after all) and 99% of the time the girl will get up and leave.
If she doesn't like it, tough shit. Customer expressed his interest, so she needs to get her ass up and try to work someone else. This ain't preschool, it's business. You're at work to make money, not friends (I know we say this entirely too much on here but it's sooo true). If the other girl tries to get pissy I just tell her again that he ASKED me over, and walk away. Who gives a sh*t if she keeps being mad? It's HER problem.
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ah, but that doesn't work in small clubs, bridgette. i have recently been dealing with that very issue, where customers will call me over, another girl happens to be there, and i get screamed at about it later. in a small club one cannot afford to offend people one sees 3-4 times a week, at least not too much, heh. although i agree your advice is completely fine for a medium to large club.
the perverse thing is that other girls have done as much to me, i've still closed the sale(s), and i certainly don't mention or worry about it later. but i am at a loss as to how to avoid it in the future. i often ask if a guy is waiting on someone or if they are there to see someone specific, but sometimes i get yelled at even for asking that. basically approaching as many customers as possible seems to be getting me in trouble with other dancers lately. sigh.
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Originally Posted by miabella
sometimes even being nice about it isn't going to prevent people feeling bad or awkward. meh.
Who cares, that's there personal issue - appologise later if you must. If someone screams at you, learn how to assertivly tell them to fuck off. If you're not in the wrong don't take shit for it ;)
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aussiepunk, it's just irritating complications. i'm a black dancer who looks black (our top earner is a black girl from haiti with white skin) and pretty much makes a ton of money without stage tips (which most of the white girls rely on) or extras. so i can sit there and try to be cool, but i still get screamed at and taken to the side and told i can't approach this customer or that one, even though plenty of people approach any customer i talk to. i won't be at this club much longer, but trying to get through the next 4-6 months seems to be an increasingly difficult proposition for the reasons i've noted.
it's a small club full of lazy girls who get mad that i say hi to as many people as possible. i know there's no harm in it (since other girls have tried to steal customers from me at that club and failed), but i am the one who gets yelled at. i don't know what coping strategy would work, since this club is the best money in town by easily 50%.
augh.
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Ear plugs? (-: It sounds like a crap situation - I've never had to deal with this on a regular basis, just here and there. management arn't helping I take it?
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Why not just tell the custy to excuse himself to go to b-room or to the bar to get a drink,and meet him there then off you to go. then he doesn't offened the girl,she cant say you stole him because he went to you. who the hell cares if she gets all pissy,she wasn't a very good closer anyhow. I walk right up to him,tell the girl im borrowing him for a few and i will bring him back after,bye.
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I always say "WHOSE PROBLEM IS IT REALLY?" practice asking yourself this.
It sounds like you didn't know what to say because you've been reemed before for stealing a custy. If he asked you for the VIP, then you come up and politely say Hi to the other dancer, be respectful to her as you have no idea what he has communicated to her, then ask the custy if he is ready for the VIP he suggested.
In my experience a girl sitting on a custy's lap is trying (purposely) to block him from other entertainers. It sounds to me like he wanted you both to dance for him, you could have played up on that and said "Hey, honey, I'm ready to dance for you know, how about we both dance for you?" At that point he has to 'shit or get off the pot'.
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Originally Posted by dlabtot
But what if you had said "are you ready for that VIP now?" he could have just said yes, problem solved.
The key to this is a certain word in your title: work. You were at work - he was not. He was just there to have a good time. I'd say for me that there are moments at work that are excruciatingly unpleasant, but I put up with it because it profits me to do so... when I am out spending the money I earned by doing the 'dirty work', I have no desire to do more work, and I'm certainly not going to pay for the privilege.
yeah, that's what I meant...
Yeah,"are you ready for that VIP now?" would have been wise. I was angry at the customer for not having the balls to get rid of her on his own. I was angry at the girl for taking it personally that he chose to spend $$$ on me and not her after her dumb ass wasted time with him,then chose to confront me as if I had done something wrong.
But... yes FBR, all that anger faded as I counted my money ;)
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But... yes FBR, all that anger faded as I counted my money ;)
Thats a good thing :) At the end of the day, having a garter stuffed full of money can conpensate for a lot of irritations, I imagine.
SC's exist in what I like to call a "parallel universe"...or "special ethical areas" as others have said. The day to day societal rules, norms and behavior patterns just don't seem to apply to clubs as much as we wish they did. :shrug:
FBR
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Especially if in a hurry I try to line up (reserve?) a couple dancers. Chit chat gets old - don't you think?
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I've been in that situation before. I definately go over and suggest he gets a double dance with both of us. Usually they do, sometimes not, but it makes them, and the other dancer we are here to WORK.
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I tell them to come get me when they're ready. If he calls me over I'll encorage him to take us both. If she screams at me I tell her he didn't want her anyway and brush her off. Let her have the meltdown.