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Don't waste her time vs let her make her pitch
So let's say Im at the club, and a dancer sits down with me to do her hustle, and I know - for whatever reason - that I don't want to buy a lap dance from her.
I've read some posts where dancers have complained about customers cutting them off early with a "No" .... and plenty where dancers have complained about customers 'wasting their time' wanting them to hang out for free conversation.
No doubt the answer lies somewhere in the middle, but for the purposes of this poll, dancers, do you want the customer to let you do your hustle even if he thinks the answer is no, or would your rather be told right away he doesn't want a dance?
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If you know you're not going to get a dance from me no matter how well I try to hustle or what I say, then don't even let me say it. Tell me know right away so that I can move on to the next guy. If I don't have any chance of making money off of you, then tell me, so that I can find someone who WILL spend money on me.
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told right away, but in a nice way....say you are not planning to spend money (or if you are, say you are waiting for someone else) and give her a couple of bucks for her time.
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No, i'd rather a customer be upfront and honest with me. Yea, it may be a little blow to the ego BUT I'd rather have you be honest than tell me "maybe later" while your dancing with ever blonde in the club.
All men have a preference. I tell myself this nightly. Not all men are gonna dig me, no matter how "hot" I am. Nothing wrong with them, or me...
There is nothing that makes me more mad than a man who tells me "maybe later" but then dances with every other girl in the club. If I'm not your type, do me a favor and just tell me. I'll just make a mental note not to approach you again.
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the best way to handle this is to say that you know that she's here to make money, and you aren't really going to spend on this trip - or that you want some time to take in the atmosphere. If you like her but just don't have the cash, compliment her and let her know you'd love to talk but you know she has to work. This way, if she wants to take a break and come chit chat, she can, and you have not offended her or made yourself look like a jerk.
NEVER EVER, EVER wave a girl off, shake your head "no" as she is walking up to you, or interrupt her introduction to tell her you're not interested. Basically, just don't be rude... (I am not insinuating that you are)... respect the girl's feelings.
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There is nothing that makes me more mad than a man who tells me "maybe later" but then dances with every other girl in the club. If I'm not your type, do me a favor and just tell me. I'll just make a mental note not to approach you again.
I couldn't agree more with Cin's quote above.
I would prefer to be told right away in a polite fashion.
Something like : " You seem like a nice girl and so I wouldn't want to waste your time but I am probably not going to buy dances from you today. I am sure that there are other customers who are waiting for you so thanks for your time anyway and I hope you have a nice day/evening "
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Just a half response to some of the comments so far... there have been times when I thought the answer was surely no but I ended up buying anyway... it does happen...
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That is true...some men really don't come into the club with a set preference they like all women.
I've gotten dances and VIP's from customers who told me they'd never had a dance from a black woman before. Glad to be a converter I tell them LOL ;)
I don't mind shooting the breeze with someone if it is a slow time. But if it's a packed house, and I'm making my rounds, just tell me.
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well, that's not what you asked...you made it sound like you had absolutely no intention of buying as the choices were that she waste her time or brush her off.
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Originally Posted by dlabtot
Just a half response to some of the comments so far..
Actually I agree with Emily. We answered your question fully.
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Originally Posted by dlabtot
Just a half response to some of the comments so far... there have been times when I thought the answer was surely no but I ended up buying anyway... it does happen...
In that case the custy can always approach the dancer at a later time and ask for a dance.
It is always a lovely surprise when that happens 8)
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Originally Posted by Emily
well, that's not what you asked...you made it sound like you had absolutely no intention of buying as the choices were that she waste her time or brush her off.
Yes that's exactly what I mean, there have been times when I had no intention of buying dances but I ended up buying dances anyway. Obviously in those cases it was a good thing for her that I 'wasted her time'. Sorry if my sometime ambivalence has offended in some way.... maybe I could have worded the poll question better.
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well, that's fine, but then I'd change my answer if he might buy one.
I think all dancers have met guys who spent money on us, and told us that we weren't their type, but there was "something" about us.
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Originally Posted by dlabtot
So let's say Im at the club, and a dancer sits down with me to do her hustle, and I know - for whatever reason - that I don't want to buy a lap dance from her.
I've read some posts where dancers have complained about customers cutting them off early with a "No" .... and plenty where dancers have complained about customers 'wasting their time' wanting them to hang out for free conversation.
You're only wasting her time if you actively invite (or permit her after she asks if you'd like some company) to sit down with full intentions on not spending money on her. Now if she parks her butt in your lap or at your table without asking, then she's wasting her time.
If you change your mind later, you can always go hunt her down. That's why its important for the dancer to give you her stage name during these introductions.
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I have always always used a polite "No Thank you", when asked. If I know I have no intention of getting a dance, I try to insert that as soon as I can if there is more then a "would you like a dance" involved. There is no point in wasting either of our time - she can move on to the next potential customer, and I can continue on enjoying the show.
If I think I might want a dance, I still say "No thank you". No need in leaving it up in the air for her if I am not sure I want one or not. If I miss my chance with a dance with her, there are other dancers and other days. The world wont end. :D
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Many dancers have a chip on their shoulder. They have an easily bruised ego. I always say no to a dancer whom I am not familiar with until I have a chance to observe them and to determine whether or not they got what I want. Many of them take my initial negative responses to mean that I never want a dance from them ever...which is not true. If only they kept checking me then they would get me to buy dances. But their egos prevent them from asking again because I said no before. And I don't ask dancers for dances...I prefer they ask me. So it's their loss and my wallet's gain.
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It sounds like you are polling customers in the poll itself, and dancers in the thread.
I read the poll first and voted 'don't waste her time' before reading your post.
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Originally Posted by lunchbox
It sounds like you are polling customers in the poll itself, and dancers in the thread.
I read the poll first and voted 'don't waste her time' before reading your post.
Well I dont know why it sounds that way to you. The question and the poll were directed at dancers, that's why it is in this section, which is labelled: "Customers ask dancers questions here." I thought it was obvious enough that I didnt need to post a warning: "dancers only vote in this poll".
If I wanted to poll customers, I would do it in Shop Talk on the blue side.
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There's no harm in the girl asking, and there's no need to be rude in rejecting her, though any number of us have had hyper-aggressive dancers piss us off to no end with their strong-arm tactics. Even so, I've yet to lose my sense of decorum during such an unpleasant experience.
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It's a STRIP CLUB not a bar not anything else. It toutes in the solicitation of dances. If I had someone come into my office and look at our theater demo, and I went to talk to her, and she hushed me because she wanted to talk to another sales guy, I'd be pissed.
There is nothing wrong with rejecting the dancer especially if you're one of those types that looks don't do it all for you which is why the approach and commentary mean so much. Keep mindful of the purpose of the place and the job of the people that work there and you'll see that common sense solves most of these curiosities. There is never an excuse for rudeness that doesn't come with an apology.
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If the girl isn't your type:
"Wow, my friend Bob would be absolutely in love with you and I know if he was here now I wouldn't see him for the rest of the night; though I can see you're an absolutely lovely girl, I'm more into blondes/redheads/tiny little girls/ big voluptuous maidens/whatever."
okay, so if you're answer is initially no but you're open to being persuaded after seeing her work the club, add:
"But, I'd hate to seem close minded. So I'm going to keep an eye on you, and I'd love for you to come back and ask me later after I've seen you on stage. If anyone could change my preference for blondes, I think you might be it."
^^this tells her no, but still compliments her by having your imaginary friend thinking she's a goddess (a silly indirect compliment that acknowledges that though she may not be YOUR type, you know she's gorgeous enough to be someone else's), telling her she's lovely, and by saying that she just might change your mind if only you could see her stage routine.
And if you see her on stage and she doesn't change your mind, but comes up later to ask, just say "that was a great stage, but I think I'll stick with my blondes for tonight. I'll be sure to bring in Bob next time." A fiver wouldn't hurt at this point, but if not, at least you weren't leading her on or being rude.
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^^^ very nice way of putting it Fancy.
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Originally Posted by dlabtot
Well I dont know why it sounds that way to you. The question and the poll were directed at dancers, that's why it is in this section, which is labelled: "Customers ask dancers questions here." I thought it was obvious enough that I didnt need to post a warning: "dancers only vote in this poll".
If I wanted to poll customers, I would do it in Shop Talk on the blue side.
Honest mistake, but if you're going to have a fit over it, word your poll properly.
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Originally Posted by fancygirl
If the girl isn't your type:
"Wow, my friend Bob would be absolutely in love with you and I know if he was here now I wouldn't see him for the rest of the night; though I can see you're an absolutely lovely girl, I'm more into blondes/redheads/tiny little girls/ big voluptuous maidens/whatever."
okay, so if you're answer is initially no but you're open to being persuaded after seeing her work the club, add:
"But, I'd hate to seem close minded. So I'm going to keep an eye on you, and I'd love for you to come back and ask me later after I've seen you on stage. If anyone could change my preference for blondes, I think you might be it."
^^this tells her no, but still compliments her by having your imaginary friend thinking she's a goddess (a silly indirect compliment that acknowledges that though she may not be YOUR type, you know she's gorgeous enough to be someone else's), telling her she's lovely, and by saying that she just might change your mind if only you could see her stage routine.
And if you see her on stage and she doesn't change your mind, but comes up later to ask, just say "that was a great stage, but I think I'll stick with my blondes for tonight. I'll be sure to bring in Bob next time." A fiver wouldn't hurt at this point, but if not, at least you weren't leading her on or being rude.
I love it!!!!! I wish that I could print this out and give it to every customer that comes into the club. It would save me a lot of time and make the guys not seem like such assholes by some of the things they do/say.
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I've read somewhere that a strip club is no place to be overly generous. If there's no way that I find a particular dancer to be "my particular type," I'll be honest with her and say look, "You probably do very well with some men, but you won't with me." She's there to work so she understands that you couldn't possibly want a dance with everyone, right?