-
I can't stand guys like this...
Ok, so I was talking to my guy friend the other day about his experiences at strip clubs. He mostly talked about cheetah's and how the girl put her breasts in his mouth, touched his dick, took off her thong, etc. Then he proceeded to say that topless bars and airdances were a waste of time and money.
THEN what got me the most was when he said he thinks all dancers are whores, and gross and that he has no respect for them. What an ass! I was shocked... men who go to places like this should have at least some reverance for the female body, especially if you demand special treatment.
My boyfriend, thank god, is a gentleman. He's gone to clubs a couple times w/ friends and always keeps his hands tucked away and specifies that he doesn't want contact. Plus he tips well, and just goes to enjoy the beauty and sexiness of the girls.
Are a lot of guys like this friend of mine? :'(
-
Re: I can't stand guys like this...
I don't really care what they think of us. The fact is they are in there just as we are. So, who are they to judge? Some guys are nice, keep their hands to themselves and have a good time. However, sometimes alcohol brings the worst out in customers and they get sloppy, mouthy and gross. I just ignore those type of customers. Usually, if they are awfully bad they get thrown out anyhow.
-
Re: I can't stand guys like this...
Same here. I cant worry about what other guys think of us. If that was the case I would have quit long time ago.
Although for the reasons your friend said is a reason I wont work at Cheetahs. Guys know thats what they can get there. I dont want guys expecting that I will do that back there in VIP b/c thats what pretty much the whole club is like.
-
Re: I can't stand guys like this...
Ugh. Good to know. And from what I read, it also seems like the older men don't behave like this, right?
-
Re: I can't stand guys like this...
Its ALL men that can behave like this IF you let them. Older men can be just as big pervs as younger guys. Dont forget to get your license 1st before going to clubs. They wont even let you start any paperwork w/o it.
-
Re: I can't stand guys like this...
I usually have more trouble with older men than younger men but of course 70% of our customers are 45 and up. Older men in my opinion are harder to entertain because they have been there and done that. If you take a 20 year old to the VIP room he is just happy to see a naked woman and that's it. The older man tends to need more to turn him on. And unfornuately, sometimes they try breaking the club rules by touching, licking and I have even been bit. I have never had a younger guy lick or bite me. I have had very few try to touch but once you say no they usually behave. We had one old dude come upstairs to the VIP room with a girl a couple of weeks ago and he thought it was audience participation so he pulled his dick out. He was immediately thrown out. You wouldn't believe some of the shit guys try, lol. I could really tell you some interesting stories.
-
Re: I can't stand guys like this...
Quote:
Originally Posted by TifaRae
Are a lot of guys like this friend of mine? :'(
No, we are not, but some days it may seem that way.
People in general should have more respect for other people and their jobs but it just isn't that way most of the time. Inside the club I guess you can just ignore a customer like that-or at least get as much of his money as you can. Outside is a different story, especialy when a "friend" starts spewing such nonsense. If it's any comfort, he's insulting a stereotype.
Dancers need to have a thick skin not just for what gets said to them in the club but for what narrow-minded morons who've probably never been in a club or spent 10 minutes talking to a dancer say outside of the club as well.
-
Re: I can't stand guys like this...
Quote:
Originally Posted by greenidlady1
I could really tell you some interesting stories.
Do tell.
-
Re: I can't stand guys like this...
Quote:
Originally Posted by TifaRae
he said he thinks all dancers are whores
I've been trying to come to some understanding of what a "whore" is in my own mind, and this is what I've decided:
You're a whore, when regardless of your profession, you cannot stomach the comprimises you are forced to make with your values, yet you continue to work in the same professional situation.
Just a thought. Ho Ho Ho.
-
Re: I can't stand guys like this...
Quote:
Originally Posted by TifaRae
My boyfriend, thank god, is a gentleman. He's gone to clubs a couple times w/ friends and always keeps his hands tucked away and specifies that he doesn't want contact. Plus he tips well, and just goes to enjoy the beauty and sexiness of the girls.
Talk is cheap.
-
Re: I can't stand guys like this...
when I do get private dances, I won't touch the woman with my hands (no i don't bite or anything like that either).. I went last wednesday and got a 20 mintue session with my regular, and she asked me why I won't ever touch her, even though I was actually allowed to, and I told her that I am sure she doesn't like having guys she doesn't know touching parts of her body.. plus touching doesn't get me off anyway
Dancers aren't whores, they provide an entertainment service to men who can apprciate it as such, and it is greatly appricated it.
however, just as you have men like that, you also have dancers who give dancers a bad name.. not necessasrly the extra women, the ones on coke, the ones who are rude and treat you like shit for no reason, and yes, the extra women as well.
-
Re: I can't stand guys like this...
If he has the attitude that dancers are whores, then all customers are johns. No one forced him in there with a weapon. Why do you call this creep a friend?
Could it be that he thinks of erotica in general as degrading only to women, or maybe he hates women?
Customers have many different reasons to frequent strip clubs. His is not the only one, even though he thinks only his is right. Anyhow, his opinion is worthless to you. Finding out he is really a creep, I hope, is the only thing that bothered you about this incident.
-
Re: I can't stand guys like this...
Quote:
Originally Posted by TifaRae
Ok, so I was talking to my guy friend the other day about his experiences at strip clubs. He mostly talked about cheetah's and how the girl put her breasts in his mouth, touched his dick, took off her thong, etc. Then he proceeded to say that topless bars and airdances were a waste of time and money.
Tell him to take his beef up with the local public officials there. The conservative club scene in SD is not the clubs or dancers fault.
Quote:
THEN what got me the most was when he said he thinks all dancers are whores, and gross and that he has no respect for them. What an ass! I was shocked... men who go to places like this should have at least some reverance for the female body, especially if you demand special treatment.
Sadly, some men use SC's as a means of exacting some petty revenge for whatever rejection issues they have with the entire female race. No, were not all like that, but if said comments are going to get under a prospective dancer's skin, I'd advice her to look for another line of work. A degree of asshole tolerance is unfortunately a prerequisite for the job.
-
Re: I can't stand guys like this...
well I don't care what guys like this think because they don't know me personally and I get to go home w/ a lot of money and guess what?! I won't have to deal w/ them in my personal private time which i happen to enjoy doing many things that have nothing to do w/ sex or men whatsoever. So, call me a whore if you want. :P
-
Re: I can't stand guys like this...
TifaRae
my ex-husband "who is now a friend of mine" he is married, and we havnt been together for many years.
his wife told me over the phone how he and she was very good friends with a stripper, and he got along with her like his sister.
sooooooooooooooooooooo I reacently told him is yahoo chat, that i won an exotic dance contest, plus was offered a job. to see his reaction. "what really happened was i was working" but i wasnt about to tell him that.
him,
" i dont see you doing something like that"
me" why not? "feeling very UN -pretty" now.
him" because i thought that you of all people would have had more respect for you'r body then that.
me" well I thought that you had a friend who does it.
him" I do and she's the biggest slut you will ever meet.
him" iv been to those places many many times, and knew alot of girls who did it. and every one of them were nuthing but "sluts"
-
Re: I can't stand guys like this...
-
Re: I can't stand guys like this...
Yeah the double standard some guys have is just so ridiculous. I was mostly just shocked to find that he had that opinion. It's a shame, I thought he was a nicer guy.
-
Re: I can't stand guys like this...
^^If youre shocked by those words then brace yourself for the rest. It'll be a bumpy ride! lol
-
Re: I can't stand guys like this...
Quote:
Originally Posted by TifaRae
Ugh. Good to know. And from what I read, it also seems like the older men don't behave like this, right?
Uh, actually the older men are WORSE. They're jaded.
-
Re: I can't stand guys like this...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bridgette
Uh, actually the older men are WORSE. They're jaded.
They may be, but those I've met over the years just act more respectful, whatever they may think. Kids as a rule have NO friggin' respect.
-
Re: I can't stand guys like this...
Quote:
Originally Posted by TifaRae
Are a lot of guys like this friend of mine? :'(
Yes, honey. I would say that many, many guys are like that. Particularly guys that go to strip clubs. They may not use words like "whore" they may couch it in terms like "Doing what you have to do" etc., but very few guys respect you (and for those who have read what I have written in the past I mean "respect" with a small "r"). As in they don't generally feel the need to extend you basic courtesy; even when that are not paying you, the possibility that they might, or rather that they COULD pay vitiates that need. Here's the thing. By and large guys who go to strip clubs aren't NICE. They are not good people, they are not concerned about you or your feelings. Most of them are interested in scamming your time for free so that they can then reject you, or scoring as much touch for as cheap as they can. (I am well aware of the exceptions by the way; nobody need raise his hand and say: "but I don't do that." and you know, at least a 1/3 of you DO do it.) I'd cease worrying about it - there is no point and you'll just frustrate yourself. Me, I like being frustrated, but it's not for everyone.
-
Re: I can't stand guys like this...
Depends on the city and the strip club.....
I'm the older guy that usually have a regular stripper, the same girl, but sometimes they come and go and you need to change. Some dancers are very close to customers and they get upset if you have another table dancer the same night. I had this young girl some time ago that even gave me a ring and told that I was "married" to her. I had a good time with her for a while, talking, etc, but too bad, one day she was gone, I think she joined the air force. Another older dancer used to kiss me in the mouth like "a real relationship", I guess she was trying to create some bonding with the customer......the whole thing could change from night to night, its bizarre.......one day you could have 10 dancers all friendly, others you are just happy with only a drink......changes considerably. In all this business the clue is to be corteous, to treat them like ladies, of course, don't touch them.
-
Re: I can't stand guys like this...
I have been to many strip clubs, and there have been only two or three situation where I would consider a girl slutty' (whore is a little too harsh). Guys are just insecure and like labeling girls, even though they enjoy looking at those 'whores' themselves. I remember my last boyfriend would always say things like that, it is hard for men to look at this as a profession.
I have heard from my guyfriends how few girls go inside their pants, or offer them a blow job etc., but most know that is not common.
And no friend would generalize like that and put all dancers in one category...not fair :(......ignore the mean comment, as much as there are people disrespecting dancers, there are tons more enjoying them
-
Re: I can't stand guys like this...
Does your friend know you are a dancer? (or will be soon?).
He may LOVE strippers, but is giving you lip service if he doesn't know you KNOW about that world of entertainment. Kind of his way of assuring you that he knows the difference between whores and nice respectable women like you.
Or he could be just showing you his true self and true feelings. If that is the case he has issues with women who are sexually expressive reguardless if they are strippers or if they just like to have a booty call every now and again. They are all sluts in his mind (like slut is a bad thing?).
In any case, if it comes up again and he is still negative, drop the bomb on him that you are dancing (or seriously considering it) and then see his reaction... It should be entertaining to watch }:D .
-
Re: I can't stand guys like this...
Haha!! Good idea, I'd love to see if and how his opinion would suddenly change.