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Originally Posted by taintedlove
My whole life I have saw a glamorous version of escorting like Heidi Fliess type clientale. I think it would be easy to entertain the big spending buisnessmen. But how often do you get high spenders in Seattle?
I don't think this is a realistic picture of escorting or the local escort market, particularly in Seattle.
If you're catering to the local market, men in Seattle know they can just go over the border to Vancouver, BC where rates are lower and their American dollars go further.
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Originally Posted by taintedlove
Does anyone work for an escorting agency in seattle they like? If so what is the cut?
Then in the seattle area about how much do you make a month and how many dates does that entail? If anyone could refer me to a website like SW for escorts that would be great(Please something accurate thats run by those in the buisness)
The best and most well-known agency in Seattle is called . I haven't worked for them, but they have a good rep. The woman who runs it can be a little capricious, but I understand she's a fair person and the split is standard with most U.S. escort agencies - 45-50%.
The highest-paid escort in Seattle is but she spends most of her time outside of Seattle, "touring" around the country and filming porn. There are other well-regarded successful independent escorts in Seattle but rates tend to cap at $400 an hour. Men in Seattle also expect you to have an incall apartment, an added expense.
The two local review boards are and thereviewboard.net.
If you're looking for an SW for escorts go to and register to join the forums. Most ladies' boards of real value are private, however, and are for established escorts.
There is no fixed, average "what you make a month." It depends on your marketing and advertising efforts and the reputation you earn yourself. Even with a stellar reputation, you can have slow business periods and good business periods.
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Originally Posted by smartcookie
The best and most well-known agency in Seattle is called
Elliott Bay. I haven't worked for them, but they have a good rep. The woman who runs it can be a little capricious, but I understand she's a fair person and the split is standard with most U.S. escort agencies - 45-50%.
Although some have indicated that customer input into these threads is not useful, and perhaps not welcome, some may still find it of at least minor interest, so unless asked to desist by the mods, I will continue to add my 2 cents worth:
Elliott Bay also has a *very* good rep with clients as well; I know of guys who use it but otherwise almost never see agency escorts (preferring upscale indies). It is often said to be a cut above the rest, not only in Seattle but in the US. I have seen somewhere in the range of 5-10 Elliott Bay escorts over the years and would agree that it is better than any other agency I have tried in its price range.
The woman who runs it is occasionally a little difficult to deal with, again from a customer's perspective, but less so than the vast majority of agency operators in my experience.
Maybe the most positive thing I could say about Elliott Bay is that more than one of its escorts I have seen say positive things about it and the woman who operates it; one or two have expressed quite a bit of loyalty to, or admiration of, her. This is pretty unusual. If an agency escort says anything at all about the agency to a customer, it is nearly always negative, some sort of complaint.
All that said, Elliott Bay is not one of the secret/UTR exclusive and selective type of agencies sc mentioned in the other recent thread. It has the web site sc indicated and is very well known, as she mentioned. There is at least one such upscale UTR agency that operates in Seattle, but of course, you have to find it via your own personal connections.
-Ww
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This is a regurgitation of what I already said; is there anything of potential informative value to the original poster you'd like to add?
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Another question Id like to add is What can i do about safety for an outcall somewhere private?
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Originally Posted by taintedlove
Another question Id like to add is What can i do about safety for an outcall somewhere private?
You screen your clients. The purpose of screening is to weed out cops and bad clients (violent ones and rip-offs). Some escorts ask to see a drivers license upon meeting. Some ask for references from other escorts. Some will ask for a review board user name/handle. Some women ask for employment references. Some do all of the above (I did). Some just go with their well-honed intuition. Some don't do shit, and wonder why why they get ripped off and arrested.
Generally, the more you screen the fewer less-than-serious inquiries from questionable individuals you receive, which was fine with me, personally, since I saw very few people at a relatively high rate anyway.
All screening methods must be verified, cross-referenced, and double-checked as many will provide false names and false references to try and get past your screening process. There are also finer points to screening, particularly for outcalls depending on whether the escort is visiting a hotel or a private residence; PM me for more details if you wish.
Most agencies don't really screen. I don't know about Elliott Bay's particular process, but I'm guessing it involves light screening, maybe asking for a review board handle for locals and perhaps checking ID upon meeting. Generally, when working for an agency you call them upon arrival, and you call them when your time is up. If they don't hear from you they'll call you.
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Originally Posted by smartcookie
You screen your clients. The purpose of screening is to weed out cops and bad clients (violent ones and rip-offs).
Speaking of weeding out cops...is it true that all one needs to do is ask if someone is a police officer or a government agent? And that if that person is indeed a police offier or an agent of government then he or she must answer in the affirmative? Or else any information thus obtained under false pretenses is considered tainted and a form of entrapment and therefore inadmissible in any future court proceedings?
Is this true or is this just another urban legend?
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Originally Posted by smartcookie
This is a regurgitation of what I already said; is there anything of potential informative value to the original poster you'd like to add?
Basically my post was indeed just a "second", a "yeah, that's consistent with my experience/information", to yours. If you peruse other threads in this and most of the other forums, you will find many examples of posts of the same basic nature, someone simply saying "I agree with what you said." They are useful, though maybe only slightly, because they confirm information and/or indicate that it does not simply represent the views of a single individual. This is arguably particularly important on a topic such as escorting, on which there are many contradictory views. In addition, my "second" to your post is based on direct personal experience with Elliott Bay and the woman who runs it, though admittedly from the customer's "side of the bed". Your post suggested that your info might be second hand (since you never worked for EB).
In any case, my apologies for any unintended offense.
-Ww
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Originally Posted by smartcookie
I don't know about Elliott Bay's particular process, but I'm guessing it involves light screening, maybe asking for a review board handle for locals and perhaps checking ID upon meeting.
It has been a few years, but I am about 95% certain that EB required a verifiable phone number (a number at which they could call you back) before you could book an appointment. Other info may have been required too, but that is what I recall.
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Generally, when working for an agency you call them upon arrival, and you call them when your time is up. If they don't hear from you they'll call you.
EB definitely follows this common practise. I don't know for sure but have always suspected that agencies might have some innocent sounding phrase the escort could use to indicate trouble without tipping off the client during one of these calls, a sort of covert SOS code.
-Ww
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Originally Posted by kikin
Speaking of weeding out cops...is it true that all one needs to do is ask if someone is a police officer or a government agent? And that if that person is indeed a police offier or an agent of government then he or she must answer in the affirmative? Or else any information thus obtained under false pretenses is considered tainted and a form of entrapment and therefore inadmissible in any future court proceedings?
Is this true or is this just another urban legend?
A complete urban legend and a very dangerous one at that. Think about it; if that were the case, all sorts of police undercover work would be impossible, and deadly dangerous in some cases. Imagine how well that would work for undercover agents trying to "penetrate" drug rings or various violent fringe political groups and so forth.
-Ww
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The notion that a cop, an FBI agent, or any other law enforcement official has to identify himself as such, just because you ask, is a total canard.
In Texas and Hawaii, for example, cops can actually fuck you and then arrest you for prostitution, and they do. There's a bit of a scandal now in Maryland that was in the news last week. You can read about it here:
I asked my boyfriend the other day why anyone would want to be a vice cop. His answer was that the perks were better than other line of police work - better bribes, bigger payoffs, and the occasional freebie.
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I second what SmartCookie said about the cop thing.
Cops go undercover all the time. You think their whole operation is going to collapse if someone asks them if they're a cop? No, they have to keep lying because they're undercover.
This is a dangerous myth and women still need to protect themselves. I would think in Seattle it might be harsher, because they ticket women in Seattle strip clubs for prostitution for accepting tips in a certain way.
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Yeep! Thats like the undercover cops that come in and sit in the strip club. They've gotten smarter about ordering drinks and actually drinking them - that use to be a tell. Cops can't drink when they are on duty. Or at least they are not suppose to be able to, but now, obviously they can do whatever is necessary to get their man so to speak.
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I plan on only doing this a couple years as a second part-time job to save up some extra cash. My whole plan is to escort and work as a cosmetologist. Then use the extra income to save up and start my own hair salon/day spa. Its a dream but from what I've heard escorting makes a decent amount of money without requiring a certain amount of hours. Thanks for all the input.
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You will work more hours than you think. As Mistress Matisse wrote in her weekly column for The Stranger this past week:
But it’s a common myth—people who work straight jobs think: $250 an hour times 40 hours a week equals half a million dollars a year! Wow, call girls make bank! Um, no.
For one thing, as with any type of service business, for every hour you spend in the presence of a client, you spend at least two doing unpaid tasks. Phone calls and e-mail take up a lot of time, as does traveling to and from appointments, or cleaning and maintaining your space. There’s also personal care—gotta get your legs waxed and your hair done—shopping for the necessary supplies, and keeping your advertising and your website current. But the bigger factor is: What can you handle emotionally? You only have so much emotional juice, and if you see too many guys, it’ll make you crazy. I know what the perfect balance is for me, but I decided to conduct an informal poll of some working ladies to ask them the question: How many clients do you see a week?
Read the rest of the article here:
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=31071
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I think a lot of girls are curious about this topic and I commend smartcookie for being so frank.
I'm curious about how retirement feels. Even if I could go through with getting into tis, I'm worried I'd never be again be able to have a normal (romantic) relationship with a man sexually. Are all men Johns now? How is the transition going?
J
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Originally Posted by NinaDaisy
Cops go undercover all the time. You think their whole operation is going to collapse if someone asks them if they're a cop? No, they have to keep lying because they're undercover.
I have two brothers that are (mostly) honest cops. They both say vice is the absolute worst. Cops can and do bust people whenever and for whatever they fucking feel like at the time. I've heard stories that made me puke they were so repulsive. It sucks that we need cops, but of course we do. Love and support the good ones all you can, because the bad ones are truly evil, everywhere and out to destroy the good ones.
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Let me just say this.
As far as the state of indiana is concerned ( and anyone tht doesn't believe me can by all means call any defense attorney for criminal cases and ask. )
Vice can and will fuck you. Literally. They can have sex with you. They can do this several times. As long as they keep track of the serial numbers used on the cash amounts given ..they have a case. ( although vice that does this ( fucking etc. ) probably wont show up at your hearing..
Vice do NOT have to tell you they are cops.
They can show you their dicks.
They can touch you.
They can ask for sexual favors in exchange.
Pretty sick shit to be honest. But the facts.
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I find that awful, but believable, about the vice cops and what they can do. "disgust"
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I never understood why anyone believed that if you ask an undercover cop if they're a cop they have to tell you the truth.
http://www.snopes.com/risque/hookers/cop.htm
However, even if they were required to tell you, and then they didn't, you'd have to deal with the process of proving that they didn't. In other words, any rights you have with the police may be difficult to enforce even if the police violate them.
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Originally Posted by
smartcookie
You screen your clients. The purpose of screening is to weed out cops and bad clients (violent ones and rip-offs). Some escorts ask to see a drivers license upon meeting. Some ask for references from other escorts. Some will ask for a review board user name/handle. Some women ask for employment references. Some do all of the above (I did). Some just go with their well-honed intuition. Some don't do shit, and wonder why why they get ripped off and arrested.
Generally, the more you screen the fewer less-than-serious inquiries from questionable individuals you receive, which was fine with me, personally, since I saw very few people at a relatively high rate anyway.
All screening methods must be verified, cross-referenced, and double-checked as many will provide false names and false references to try and get past your screening process. There are also finer points to screening, particularly for outcalls depending on whether the escort is visiting a hotel or a private residence; PM me for more details if you wish.
Most agencies don't really screen. I don't know about Elliott Bay's particular process, but I'm guessing it involves light screening, maybe asking for a review board handle for locals and perhaps checking ID upon meeting. Generally, when working for an agency you call them upon arrival, and you call them when your time is up. If they don't hear from you they'll call you.
im a newbie....I enjoye reading your post....whats your screening method?
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Originally Posted by
NinaDaisy
I second what SmartCookie said about the cop thing.
Cops go undercover all the time. You think their whole operation is going to collapse if someone asks them if they're a cop? No, they have to keep lying because they're undercover.
This is a dangerous myth and women still need to protect themselves. I would think in Seattle it might be harsher, because they ticket women in Seattle strip clubs for prostitution for accepting tips in a certain way.
Out of curiosity, how would that be? In the t-bar/thong? Anywhere not on the garter?
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For verification many careful escorts in New England require another escort for a reference.
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Originally Posted by
kikin
Speaking of weeding out cops...is it true that all one needs to do is ask if someone is a police officer or a government agent? And that if that person is indeed a police offier or an agent of government then he or she must answer in the affirmative? Or else any information thus obtained under false pretenses is considered tainted and a form of entrapment and therefore inadmissible in any future court proceedings?
Is this true or is this just another urban legend?
I dont know who ever started this but think about it for 3 seconds?
How many people would get out of a drug bust or anything else ?
I mean if it was that easy no one would ever get busted