One of too few customers?
I would be grateful for comment on an experience I had a couple weeks ago.
I was in a city I visit a lot on business. After a client dinner I went to an SC, alone, one that I have been to a number of times, and which usually is quite enjoyable.
Arrived about 10 -- a little early, maybe, but not by much. It was quiet, but there were a lot of girls. Two came up to me before the waitress did, about 5 more before the drink arrived, and after that it was nonstop. I was saying no as politely as I could, but I basically was under siege -- and got the kind of feeling you get when you get off the subway at the wrong stop in a bad neighborhood. I had several hundred dollars in my pocket with every intention of spending it, but found myself saying no, no and no, and finally just got out of there.
I would have written it off to just being a trainwreck of a night at that club -- nobody's fault, the girls were worried that they would lose money, and had no incentive to wait because if they did someone else would just get my money. I assumed that only the arrival of another 25 guys would change anything.
But then I went to another club, which was also very quiet, lots of girls, not too many cutomers, virtually nobody doing LDs, yet the atmosphere was totally different. Nobody bothered me til I had settled in. I chatted a bit, bought a couple dances, said no a couple times, and then connected with a dancer and spent the load on her, as I had expected to, and walked away happy (as did she, I hope).
So I am trying to figure out the difference. Two theories: (1) the second club doesn't open until 9, so the girls expected it to be slow and were not in a panic; (2) the second club is a "gown" club. The girls are a little older, maybe more used to customers like me, and just knew that pouncing on the customer doesn't work.
Anybody have this experience? Any dancers have any reaction? Anything that the customer should do differently?
Thanks!
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Different clubs work different ways... maybe the first club all the girls were having a bad night and all were just desperate to make any money they could.
Second club as you said was just opening so the girls are a little more laid back and not really in the 'I have to make money now' mood.
Good to know you made one girl happy though ;)
So whens your next trip to TO? I need someone like you :P
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What the Cally said. Most times that is a hit or miss type of thing.
Personally I can't stand to pounce on a patron before he at least gets to sit down, then again there are chicks that do and get the LD's. Oh well.
Actually there's nothing you can do about such a thing and actually I commend you for your polite response. I've been on the receiving end of some fairly rude comments not knowing the man had been under siege ( like you were ) Once again, oh well. :D
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Cally, no trip in the works at the moment. :-[
Plus, you haven't told me whether you are Shy or Jasmin ;)
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lol...it doesnt matter if im Shy or Jasmin... we go together *grin* we're known for hot duos... but if it really matters take a guess what one I am :P I do do private dances lol... we just love going together :D
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I think that is choice number one-Our club is open from 11 am til 3am, so the girls are more laid back, knowing that there are slow times and faster times.
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Laid back? Dont you need to pay your housemom?
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I hate "pouncing" on a customer straight out of the gate but in certain clubs the hustle is so high, it's abe quick or be broke kind of environment. I've spent many a night thinking oh i'll wait for him to get settled in only to look around and see that i'm one of the few girls not making money. It depends on the specific club environment... When I do pounce I try to kinda make a joke out of it so the customer doesn't feel harassed or uncomfortable.Good confidence and a genuine smile go a long way.....
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This is the very reason why clubowners need to get their heads out of their asses and dancers all need training.
Every dancer knows to look for guys like you. 35-65 year old business looking guys, especially white men, who come to the club alone. You will be a sitting duck in any club you visit.
The club owners are so busy trying to get enough house fees from excess dancers to make up for slower business that they are running the money spending customers out. That is why the business goes down. Eventually there will not be an excess amount of dancers, and the clubs will be up shits creek.
10 PM is late unless you're in Nevada. If the club is slow then, you can just about write off the night. The strip club is getting to be just like a car dealership. Potential customers browse the lot early on Sunday morning in order to avoid being raped by a herd of hungry salespeople in the afternoon.
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If I pounce early, it's because I have to or I'll miss out. I know nobody likes it but it's the way the business works sometimes. I'll pretend I recognize him to get the conversation rolling. There is no reason why a guy can't settle in with a girl next to him. He can chat with her while observing everything and everyone.
Here's the problem with the OP's scenario...the girls were pouncing and not even talking to you. How else can you explain how 7 girls came and went before you even got a drink? If it's dead, why were they trying to close so fast? They were lazy and not willing to spend with him that he would normally spend alone.
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Originally Posted by Emily
If it's dead, why were they trying to close so fast? They were lazy and not willing to spend with him that he would normally spend alone.
The slow blade penetrates the shield. ;)
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Originally Posted by Silverback
The slow blade penetrates the shield. ;)
Somebody is such a "Dune" geek,LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Emily
If I pounce early, it's because I have to or I'll miss out. I know nobody likes it but it's the way the business works sometimes. I'll pretend I recognize him to get the conversation rolling. There is no reason why a guy can't settle in with a girl next to him. He can chat with her while observing everything and everyone.
Here's the problem with the OP's scenario...the girls were pouncing and not even talking to you. How else can you explain how 7 girls came and went before you even got a drink? If it's dead, why were they trying to close so fast? They were lazy and not willing to spend with him that he would normally spend alone.
That is exactly what I was thinking. Unless the waitress was painfully slow (like 15-20 minutes to bring a drink), the first girl who approched should have been in chat mode, not selling mode. After a song or two, then she should have popped the question. If the club was dead anyway, then she had nothing to lose.
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The club obviously is more of a "wanna dance" format and the girls don't know what to say or feel comfortable sitting and talking for any length of time.
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Originally Posted by Tina
The club obviously is more of a "wanna dance" format and the girls don't know what to say or feel comfortable sitting and talking for any length of time.
too bad, because there are obviously missed opportunities at this club
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While I like to think of myself as a "good customer" rather than a "sitting duck" (but thanks for the thought, Tina . . . ) it's a club I have been to a lot. It is has been absolutely hopping at midnight, 1 am. When it's busier, it's fine.
The waitress was a little slow, but I had a drink in less than ten minutes -- could have been five. I don't think any of the girls spent more than 30 seconds. Emily and Paris, reading your posts you have it exactly right. If any of the girls had just sat down and chatted for a while, it would have been fine. Emily, with your approach I would have relaxed, let down my guard, and might have said yes or no, (if it were you, probably yes) but certainly would not have gotten up and left. That is exactly what the dancers did at the second club. So the "pouncing" that bothered me probably wasn't the quick visit, but the too-quick close.