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Horrible experience at SC saturday night
I had two different posts I wanted to make over the weekend but my internet connection was out for 2 days so I am just now getting around to making the posts.
anyway, I didn't plan on going out Saturday night, however, there wasn't anything on TV, I wasn't in the mood to go to a real dance club and I wasn't in the mood for playing Video Games and the girl I am talking to was babysitting, so I headed down to the SC, which is horribly convinent, as it is only a 3 mintue drive from my place.
So I get in there, see a dancer I haven't seen in at least a month in a half becuase she only works when she needs money. So we start talking or what not, everything is cool, I'm buying drinks, watching the pretty women on stage..
Now, before I go on, you have to understand.. the night before I was in there ,and in the VIP section there was this group of hispanic gang members, who I have seen around before, spending huge amounts of money. They got kicked out late friday night becuase they made a dancer cry by pooring vokda all on her...
however, they were back the next night, in the VIP section again, however girls weren't as anxious to sit with them
Now, the entire time, while talking to Paris (the dancer) I notice that they are having some type of verbal disagreement, and there was about 8 of them... 7 of them left and left one person there... they had told some girl they were going to get "1000 ones" which was BS, where the hell can you get 1000 ones at 12 oclock on a saturday night?
Now the VIP section, from where i am sitting, is about 15 feet away. They walk back in about an hour or so later, say about 2 words, and proceed to beat the shit out of the guy that they left there, they were actually on the stage some of them, then one of them pulls out a glock and cocks it.... then all of them pull out glocks..
now, before you ask, no they don't (usually) do security checks before you go in, either that or I think the bouncer was just plain scared to search them, wouldn't suprise me
So the fight is bad, make no mistake about it, but I mean, I've seen worse, the guns were just for show, I doubt they were goingt o shot him in front of everyone there, and there was about 60 people there, plus they that was their business, whatever they were beefing about, it had nothing to do with anyone there..
So I am cool, because, like i said, nothing to dow ith me, the music is still going, 2 of the dancers on stage are still putting on a half-ass show
Now, after like 2-3 mintues, the bouncer finally gets ahole of the guy that was getting whipped, and the fight starts to die down. The guys were actually heading out the door..
until some dumbass sitting right next to me, a drunk white guy about 26ish, kinda built yells "take your asses home" at the top of his lungs...
So, and the guys, as well as everyone else there, gives him this eye like "shut the fuck up".. but he does it again, and again... then all 7 of them start to walk over towards him slowly, you can tell they really din't want to go over there or else they would have rushed them...
Then the dumbass says "what do you want to do assholes" or something along thoose lines...
Then all 7 of them grabbed the nearest thing they could and clocked him with it, they hold him down and 1 or 2 of them pull out their guns again, and this is no more than like 4 feet away from me, so I make a b line for the bathroom. By now the music had stopped and the guy was getting whipped. I think he had to go to the emergency room when they were all said and done. he had glass candle holders that had burning candles thrown at him, tables, beer bottles, chairs, all thrown at him, not to mentioned being threated by guns... lucklily no one else was hurt.
After that I decided that was enough for tonight and along with about half of the crowd, went home, which was sad because it was a saturday night and that one incident ment alot of women weren't going to make any money
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i wasn't there that night, but i was the night before and last night. well last night the mexican mafia returned. no guns were pulled or anything but those guys were complete assholes. they ruined a dancers outfit by pulling all of the sequins off and then told her to "get out." i saw them fingering a few dancers in vip when i was sitting with them and i was really shocked. i guess i'm a little naive. i would never judge another person on what they choose to do or not do, but i couldn't imagine letting those guys touch me like that. another thing, what's up with throwing all of the money in the air? do they like watching girls crawl on the floor like roaches? or it could be just to show off. anyway, on one hand i can't stand these guys, on the other, i made $400 by literally sitting with them last night. i didn't do one lap dance. should i just shut up and sit with the pricks while they try to touch my pussy and make me crawl for money? or should i pass up the chance to make such easy cash? ...or maybe it's not so easy.
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Most good clubs will kick these guys out the minute they start acting like idiots. I can't believe your club let them pull out glocks and pistol whip another customer saturday and let them back in there last night. It's time to find a new better run club.
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Yikes, sounds like a tough club. Why weren't the police called? I just can't believe its worth it for the club or the dancers. Sydney, these guys are criminals. If they will behave this way in a public place imagine out in the parking lot. No money is worth involving yourself with people with this kind of attitude.
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Originally Posted by sexysydney
i wasn't there that night, but i was the night before and last night. well last night the mexican mafia returned. no guns were pulled or anything but those guys were complete assholes. they ruined a dancers outfit by pulling all of the sequins off and then told her to "get out." i saw them fingering a few dancers in vip when i was sitting with them and i was really shocked. i guess i'm a little naive. i would never judge another person on what they choose to do or not do, but i couldn't imagine letting those guys touch me like that. another thing, what's up with throwing all of the money in the air? do they like watching girls crawl on the floor like roaches? or it could be just to show off. anyway, on one hand i can't stand these guys, on the other, i made $400 by literally sitting with them last night. i didn't do one lap dance. should i just shut up and sit with the pricks while they try to touch my pussy and make me crawl for money? or should i pass up the chance to make such easy cash? ...or maybe it's not so easy.
what's your stage name, i think I actually know who you are :)
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I can understand the dancers problems however... there isn't a club in little rock, not even the surronding areas that get anywhere near the amount of money flowing though in an average day.. and for the most part, it's a cleanly ran club.. that's the first incident I have ever seen like that.
I have never Seen any extras or anything in that club.. I have heard on a few occussions though the grapevine, but it's not a major problem at least I don't think
The only gripe I really have on them is their drink prices... 7 dollars for a longneck is outrageous.. espically when you are buying dancers drinks.. then the mixed drinks come in the smallest glasses possible and they charge more, but if that's the only concern you really have in a club, all in all you really can't complain
Heather (the girl that got her outfit ruined by having vodka poured on it) told me that they were complete assholes... they were spaking her on the ass until she literarly had tears in her eyes.
I mean you can't discrminate... even if I am a"gangsta" I might not want to be one at the club.. but what they pulled friday night was bad enough
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This club doesn't want to spend money on metal detectors.
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oh, here's the kicker... one my way out, they were using metal dectors on everyone trying to come in... a day late and a dollar short.
the only rationale I can think of is it was pretty cold that night and the bouncer was sitting inside, but even then, my gosh, is it that hard to run a stick around someone
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sydney is my stage name:)
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I do know who you are, your a cutie... I actually have a beef with you, I gave you a tip, a nice tip, and you didn't say thanks or even look my way... otherwise i would have spent a lot of money on you
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Originally Posted by songofthesword
... pull out their guns again, and this is no more than like 4 feet away from me, so I make a b line for the bathroom.
... I've seen gun toting custys a couple of times- I make a 'b line' for the exit. Why the hell would you trap yourself in the john?
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because the bathroom was about 4 steps away and the exit was all the way across the room, plus traffic... not really time to sit down and weigh options... if they are shooting, I want to be out of the way of shots, plain and simple, i can be running for the exit and get hit in the back... plus they had no beef with me, or really anyone else in there, they weren't going to kill everyone in the damn club, I knew they more than likely weren't going to use the guns, but if one makes a split second decision to pull the trigger, the rest fill obligated to do the same, etc
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I just realized somehting.. sexysydney said they let them BACK sunday night... are you freakin serious?
They are asking to get shut down if that is the case, they really are. too many clubs down here get shut down for stuff like that going down inside the club, which is probalby why they didn't call the police in the first place
They will loose alot of regular customers, including me, if stuff like that goes on all the time... maybe it was a one time incident.. .from what i heard from some of the dancers, the mexican guy was going to get his that night, no way around it, but the guy in the crowd by me could have been avoided
I have no problem with THEM, but I do have a problem with what they did.. and when I sit and talk to dancers, I have to hear how big of assholes they are, on my dime, which isn't cool in the least bit
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At the first blow, I would have made a move to leave. If I had seen a pistol come out before I left, I would have continued outside and called the COPS right away and told them about the weapons. Those idiots, just having pistols are life-threatening. I cannot believe that the customers and staff and dancers all weren't piling out fast. Well, maybe this is a common occurrence. This is the sort of stuff that causes clubs to be shut down, and most others threatened by the social unrest it generates on the local moralists.
I'm sorry but I just will not tolerate gang-bangers anywhere near me.
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well.. this post isnt' about gang bangers... while I am not one, nor have never been, I was fortuntante enough to be raised on both side of the tracks in life and because of it, I have a better understanding than most of how people on both sides of the track think
that's like saying, you wouldn't let members of the mob, or better yet, a regular drug dealer into the club...
however, that's like saying all gang members are bad people, and while the truth is that most have issues that need to be addressed... It's not like a gang member can't go to the grocery store and not pull a gun on someone.. I mean, they do normal shit just like everyone else..
When I grew up with my dad, I lived dead in the middle of where they shot Gang Banging in little rock..s ome of the film was even on the street my dad lived on.
Because of it, I was 8-9 years old and had friends, my age, that we played basketball and stuff with... execpt they were in gangs and I wasn't... i knew better even at that age, and I had a dad that was there to tell me what I needed and what I didn't need to do, unlike alot of my friends at the time...
Never had to worry about one of them shooting me or anything like that, we were all cool, they had their life I had mine.
The two guys I am talking aout were brothers, and last time I checked one was in the Army and is married and one is in the Marines, so it's not like they were just horrible people... it's just all they knew and as they got older and wieser they realized that's not the life they wanted.
What you do outside the club is not my business.. just don't bring it IN the club and all can be happy.
Granted, it wasn't the smartest thing to air their dirty laundry out in the public, I honestly think they did it there, when they could have done it earlier that day or at home later, just to impress the dancers
Like I said, the exit, there isn't even an emergency exit by the bathroom I don't think, was all the way across the room, plus they had started pulling guns and had started throwing shit, so me and like 10 other guys got in the bathroom
A couple of the dancers actually told me that they were not bad people.. they were just in a gang.. granted, I think they have been watching a little to many BET Uncut and think girls willingly give out favors like lollypops in SC's as they disrespected alot of the women there, but I also think that the women who were disrespected, put themselves in a position to be disrespected.. I know the one dancer that got vodka poured on her comes off as hoeish to me, which is why I won't spend money on her... as there were like at least 10 dancers sitting with them the entire time and not another one complained about anything.. they were even happy, for a brief second, when they came back in
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That is exactly why the club I work in do not play certain type of music! Because they say it attract a certain type of crowd! Oh my I think that is horrible and I am so sorry you have to experience that type of drama
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Was this by chance at the Paper Moon?
I TOLD y'all I had a bad vibe about that place. I bloody well told y'all. Sure am glad I listened to it.
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yes it was.. what bad vibe did you have? I missed it..
In all honestly, I am 22, I have been going there for about a year and a half.. first time I have ever seen anything like this happen there... as a matter of fact, over the last 2-3 weeks is the first time I have ever seen security so laxed.
I heard they have new management, or at least a new manager.. maybe that is the issue
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They should have called the cops. All it takes is one call and a bunch of cops showing up - word gets out pretty fast to behave in that place.
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I guess they were scared that if they called the cops they would have the posibility of being shut down.
I stayed there about 45 mins after It happened... in case it esculated to the parking lot, plus I was spending some QT with this extremely leggy red head.. and I didn't see one cop the entire time, in or outside
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Originally Posted by Yekhefah
Was this by chance at the Paper Moon?
I TOLD y'all I had a bad vibe about that place. I bloody well told y'all. Sure am glad I listened to it.
Yakhefah, you are the WOMAN!!!! Such a good call.
I read your post and even I got an eerie feeling about that hole in the wall.
The reason we still have gangs is public tolerance of them like that shown by the OP. I, on the other hand, have NO tolerance of that kind of activity. All those gun-toting maniacs should have been arrested for reskless endangerment, carrying unlicensed concealed weapons, assault and battery and a few other goodies I'm sure their DA could dream up. People like this are not just like everyone else; they are dangerous untrained social misfits preying on everyone they can conjure up an argument with. Re-train or incarcerate the thugs.
And, yes, drug dealers do not belong in the club either. They are there mainly to supply or create additional customers. It ruins the badly tarnished reputation of the clubs (which makes it difficult for them to exist) and diverts the dancers from improviing their lives. If they want to be welcomed in society, anyplace, they will stop spreading their disease.
22 years old. you will change your attitude someday as you mature. Probably because you have finally seen first-hand the real damage these people cause or grow to recognize the significance of it.
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Not to be to much of a dick but why is a good looking 22 year old guy going to a strip club on a saturday night alone in the first place? Is Little Rock really that bad? And to go to a place like this? Are there no regular bars there?
As far as social misfits, well, lets face it, a lot of dancers date these guys.
As far as drug dealing in a strip club, strippers are by and far the best customers a drug dealer can have. Plenty of easy cash. Probably why those guys are there in the first place.
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Originally Posted by skanklover
Not to be to much of a dick but why is a good looking 22 year old guy going to a strip club on a saturday night alone in the first place? Is Little Rock really that bad? And to go to a place like this? Are there no regular bars there?
As far as social misfits, well, lets face it, a lot of dancers date these guys.
As far as drug dealing in a strip club, strippers are by and far the best customers a drug dealer can have. Plenty of easy cash. Probably why those guys are there in the first place.
why not?
Well, if you honestly want me to answer I will.
first, it's literarly right down the street to my house
secondly, I like the atmosphere
and lastly, usually the reason I will go to a SC on a weekend night is becuase the clubs really don't get jumpin until around 2ish, so I have the option of sitting at home watching TV until 1:30 or 2 or go to the SC and kill time.. not a very hard decision.. when I left the SC I went to Disco until about 4:30
there are regular bars, and I mix things up... I went to a place called West End last night, one of the better bars around town. One night I might go to the movies.. depends on how I feel.
However I don't have a stimga against SC's or the people who visit them and I respect the people who work there.
I can see how after a while, a dancers POV might be all customers are loosers who would give their last dime on earth to kiss one of the dancers on stage, have no social life, etc, but that's not all true, and you are loosing money because of it. I go to the SC with a certain amount of money, willing to spend.. only one time I have came anywhere near being broke, well not broke, but spending all the money I cam with... dancers preconceiptions, from me not being ugly, to being young to whatever.. I'm here just like anyone else to enjoy a good show.
Actually, there are really no other half decent SC's in the Area, I want to say the state but i haven't visited all of them.
I am actually considering opening up a SC in a year or two, which is another reason why I visit alot, to learn more how the actual business is ran, and i have learned a hell of alot, from what dancers expect, to what good and bad standards are, etc, over the last 2-3 months.
I honestly beileve if some owner (i.e me) were to open up a nice establishment, be willing to loose some money in the beginning to make money in the longrun by having strict hiring guidelines, not charing an arm and a leg for a house fee, and have the correct structure (I really like the idea about giving the dancers credit for selling drinks, an idea that is foreign down here), make sure attract the clients you want to, bring in an experienced DJ, it would thrive down here...
Their drug habits are not my business, nor am I the morale police and I don't try to be. I smoke from time to time, not very often, maybe 1 time a month or so, don't take any drugs other than that.
If X is your thing, so be it, just don't do it around me an don't push it on me. However if it's my club I have to look at it from a different angle, that it could get my place shut down, but as of yet, I'm not one.
My aspect on life is alot more broad than you would ever imagine.. I have seen it all...
Yes, drug dealers are in general, the downfall or one of them of society. However, with that said, it's just as unjust to have a prejudice of someone about their job as it is their skin color, religion, etc.
You can't complain about drug dealers coming in yet you are making 400-500 a night off them.
All I ask is t hat you keep what you do out of the club. If I open up a club, I would like to have a strict dress code.. that usually does the trick.
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i'm sorry:( if i ignored you i didn't do it on purpose. if someone wants a dance when i get off stage or if i get caught up talking with someone i might accidentally forget all of the people that tipped me when i was on stage. next time we are both at the club come find me and tell me youre the guy from stripperweb and i will never overlook you again.
and...the paper moon is really not that bad. this was an isolated incident that sucked alot. overall the club is run smoothly and never has these kinds of problems.
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IT's no biggie, I know how it is, espically on a busy night... I'll let you know the next time I am in there so you can make some money off of me, which should be this weekend... do you know who I am?