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Hi, im new and confused about weather or not to start dancing.
I need the money baaad, for school, rent and helping my mom with her mortgage.
I just wanted to know the downside of the job. I heard of all the good stuff, but what about stalkers, gross men, drugs, gangs.....how do you stay clear of that stuff? :)
thanks!
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Re: Hi, im new and confused about weather or not to start dancing.
you don't. it is in every city and club. you can work around it, but sometimes you will still get tangled up even you are just coming in and doing your job and leaving.
don't work because you need the money baaaad. get any other job. sex work is not something to be entered into just for the money. there are less soul-sucking ways to earn money, and i do mean 'soul-sucking'. even in no-contact clubs, there will be guys who grab you and lick you (as an example), and even if they get thrown out, well, it's already done. and the mindgames customers play dangling their cash in front of you...it is so not worth it if you are desperate for money. it's just a recipe for disaster.
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Re: Hi, im new and confused about weather or not to start dancing.
You will have to work around drugs, gross guys, grabby guys, etc. at pretty much any club you go to. You just have to stay away from the drugs, and learn how to take control of situations and let customers know when they're going too far. It's all about self-control, self-discipline, and knowing when to say enough is enough. You have to have a good head on your shoulders and be able to say "no."
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Re: Hi, im new and confused about weather or not to start dancing.
Ok, besides the fact that I need the money, I think I'd actually enjoy it. I've always had an interest for it and I remember when I was 12 I use to dance on one of the poles on my moms bed and she always said that I'd be a stripper. I also think I could get good at it.
As far as being able to say no, I love saying no to guys, it's actually fun, and I am a HUUUGE anti drug person. Not that I can't handle it arund me because I can, but I know personally that I would never get involved in that.
Now....the thing my friend brought up were the biker gangs and regular gangs "owning" you. Asking you to sell drugs for them and getting involved in a sex ring. That's my biggest fear. I don't want to get involved in crap like that.
What are the downsides of the job?
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Re: Hi, im new and confused about weather or not to start dancing.
A sex ring and selling drugs for bikers? I've never come across anything like that. Just go to work, do your job, and go home and you will be fine. Don't hang out with customers outside of work. I don't know if any other dancers have ever had problems with sex rings or anything like that, but I would imagine that this is a very rare thing, and that as long as you just do your job and go home you should't have any problems.
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Re: Hi, im new and confused about weather or not to start dancing.
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Originally Posted by crazybeautiful28
when I was 12 I use to dance on one of the poles on my moms bed and she always said that I'd be a stripper.
whoa....
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the thing my friend brought up were the biker gangs and regular gangs "owning" you. Asking you to sell drugs for them and getting involved in a sex ring. That's my biggest fear. I don't want to get involved in crap like that.
OMG - hahahhaa... im sorry - that was so ridiculous I cant even answer...
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Re: Hi, im new and confused about weather or not to start dancing.
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Originally Posted by AudreyLeigh
whoa....
OMG - hahahhaa... im sorry - that was so ridiculous I cant even answer...
See thats what I thought too!!! I was like that's crazy! But she works for the PD dispatch and she says they try to get you to sell their drugs and what not and if you start to help them, then try to get out of it then they will come find you.
I though it sounded a little off the wall.
I think I'd actually like dancing....
What do you girls like most about your job, money aside?
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Re: Hi, im new and confused about weather or not to start dancing.
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Originally Posted by crazybeautiful28
What do you girls like most about your job, money aside?
Freedom, looking good all the time, having an excuse to get hair extensions and a boob job (LOL - not really - i don't need an excuse), being able to be myself most of the time, no 9-5 bullshit sitting behind a desk pretending to be corporate, staying in shape, learning new tricks on the pole or floor, making some decent girlfriends (although beware of the needy girl who automatically attaches herself to you when you walk in the door as well as the drug addicts), the fulfilling non-relationship formed between myself and a customer, and getting paid to dance around half naked and drink!
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Re: Hi, im new and confused about weather or not to start dancing.
i don't think enjoying swinging around the pole is a compelling enough reason to go into dancing, frankly. there's a reason so many girls in the biz drink or consume other drugs. and that includes women who enjoy the work overall. unless you are among the increasingly rare few who can make 1k or so a night with no contact, just conversation, i tend to lean towards other job options. when top earners on this very site bail for normal jobs, you know dancing isn't really all that moneywise.
surely you can make 100-200 a night doing loads of other things and swing around that pole in your free time.
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Re: Hi, im new and confused about weather or not to start dancing.
There is a lot of crap to deal with that you wouldn't come across in every day life but if you are honest to yourself about who you are and what you really want the diversions from a happy life can be avoided.
I'm not saying that it's all roses, you may end up later regretting some decisions. What I'm saying is that you have to see right from wrong and you have to be a strong enough person to know what you want and when to say no to something or not get involved.
I can tell you this though, I feel sorry for the me that wouldn't have started in this industry because I'd never trade what I've learned and the experiences I've been through for anything (even the regrets...we all need some.)!
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Re: Hi, im new and confused about weather or not to start dancing.
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Originally Posted by crazybeautiful28
Now....the thing my friend brought up were the biker gangs and regular gangs "owning" you. Asking you to sell drugs for them and getting involved in a sex ring. That's my biggest fear. I don't want to get involved in crap like that.
Your friend watches WAY too much fictional television.That does NOT happen.Very funny,indeed,LOL!!!!!
You're an adult.You know what's Kosher and what's not.Use your instincts and you won't go wrong.
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Re: Hi, im new and confused about weather or not to start dancing.
You ladies are all really helpful! Thanks a lot! :)
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Re: Hi, im new and confused about weather or not to start dancing.
Still laughing from the whole gang, sex, drugs, thoughts......
Really, stripping isn't a job you just fall into and do superbly at, maybe you should seriously consider cocktailing first before you jump into some stilettos. You can make really good money cocktailing at a SC.
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Re: Hi, im new and confused about weather or not to start dancing.
but it's hard to get a job cocktailing, and there's set hours! :( Boo hoo
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Re: Hi, im new and confused about weather or not to start dancing.
oh, and im only 20, which is a damper....
5 more months though till 21
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Re: Hi, im new and confused about weather or not to start dancing.
I'm still learning the ropes, but here are all the negatives that I've discovered so far. Beware of guys constantly trying to date you, see you outside the club, give you money for a night of sex, ask for a "private party," etc. Some guys are not only really grabby (slapping your ass really hard, licking you, trying to slip their hand down your g-string, etc etc etc) but they can also play mind games with you, calling you a "little slut," asking if you are in any kind of trouble, especially financial trouble, and basically judging you. All this can take a toll on you. A lot of predators like to dangle money in front of you and encourage you to do more than you are willing to do. One great example that happens often is the guy may give you $100 for one floor dance then take you to the back for private dances and make the transition from a gentleman to a molestor. Each and every dance he will try to go farther and farther and if you hesitate he will put your hand on his HUGE stack of $100s in his pocket and maybe even take it out and flip through it to give you the hint if you follow along this $ can be yours. It is NOT worth it, just leave!! This happens a lot at the end of the month when these predators know some girls have bills to pay.
It's also a struggle b/c you are trying to make maximum cash for the least amount of work while the customers in general are trying to get more for their cash if you know what I mean. But the respectful gentlemen with nice tips do exist...
Okay, all that aside... I'd say the most compelling thing about this job is I LOVE the attention that I get and it really boosts my self-esteem. That said, when you have a really bad night with lots of "No's" and barely any money made, this can make you depressed and have temporary low self-esteem. Don't let it get to you, everybody has bad nights, it doesn't mean you are ugly or undesirable.
*Smooches* Best of luck to you!!
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Re: Hi, im new and confused about weather or not to start dancing.
wow, that was exactly what I was looking for, thank you.
So does that happen often? Cause I'd get a kick out of just walking away from those losers!
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Re: Hi, im new and confused about weather or not to start dancing.
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Originally Posted by miabella
surely you can make 100-200 a night doing loads of other things and swing around that pole in your free time.
Please let me know where those jobs are..... $200 a day/night... i've even got my bachelors degree and would be extremely lucky to make that!
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Re: Hi, im new and confused about weather or not to start dancing.
well some clubs do require dancers to have set schedules as well, and shifts that can last 7 hours. Can you handle that-and working until 4 am?
Waitressing, in some areas, can be as lucrative money-wise as dancing.
and for your thread title-it's WHETHER, not WEATHER. ;)
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Re: Hi, im new and confused about weather or not to start dancing.
So have you checked out any clubs crazybeautiful28?
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Re: Hi, im new and confused about weather or not to start dancing.
Yeah spelling isn't my strong point....neither is math or science....yeaaahhh I just dislike school.
Checked out clubs: YES! Well....two....
The Mens Club and Wild Orchid. Both of which don't have set scheduals. I like the girls at the Mens club and they all seem pretty nice girls, and I've met one girl at WO who "loves" it and says its a decent place. She says the girls on night are kinda caty though, and I know the girls at the MC on nights are nice....but I'm still torn between the two.
MC is just a stage, no pole, where the WO has poles....Hmm....never dont a pole before but I look damn good crawling around on the floor. lol
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Re: Hi, im new and confused about weather or not to start dancing.
Don't forget to get your sheriffs card and biz license to work in Reno. I think since you are over 18 but under 21 and new to dancing they will probably be a bit of a stickler about you having these things prior to dancing. I also think both clubs are topless only so don't forget to get 2- 2 inch tbacks. Have fun but most of all don't forget your just there to make money, be nice but don't be worried about making friends, just do your job so you don't leave yourself open to get caught up in all the shit.
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Re: Hi, im new and confused about weather or not to start dancing.
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Originally Posted by crazybeautiful28
wow, that was exactly what I was looking for, thank you.
So does that happen often? Cause I'd get a kick out of just walking away from those losers!
No problem! I'm in Vegas by the way, so I'm not sure how it is anywhere else since this is the only place I have ever danced at. There are some guys who are locals who always come in and never ever spend money and try to talk to you FOREVER seriously. They will give you compliments and *maybe* one drink but that's it. When I was naive I wasted a lot of time but now I seriously say, "I'm busy," or "I need to go pee." Just walk away and they actually have the nerve to grab my arm and I pry them off me and walk away even faster.
Well, when things happen while dancing the bouncers on the floor will say something to them and to me and in the VIP rooms if they notice anything they will loom over us as a warning, which helps. :) But... when something happens I usually tell them in a cute way, "NO" and pull their hands away suggestively/sexually and if that doesn't work I start the whole, "I'm a good girl, I don't want to get fired routine," and if that doesn't work then I tell them I'm thinking about leaving because they are too much for me. For some reason I always just tell them no myself, pull them away and keep my mouth shut. I'm not into making a scene.
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Re: Hi, im new and confused about weather or not to start dancing.
I wish there were a gang hat owned me and was forcing me to sell drugs, it might make work more fun and I probably would have gone in tonight! Some girls do have pimps though but that's because they're stupid.
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Re: Hi, im new and confused about weather or not to start dancing.
Negatives of dancing:
1. Social ostrization
2. sore hips, back, knees, feet etc. etc.
3. Pay more income taxes
4. Always working odd hours
5. Exposure to alcohol and drugs
6. No paycheck, no guarentee of income.
7. investment in clothes and shoes
8. Stalkers
9. Drama caused by other dancers and/or customers
10. Once you're in it is hard to get out... Finding another line of work
11. Man hating
12. inability to maintain a romantic relationship
13. rejection by friends and family
14. Narcisism
15. sexual addiction or>>>
16. no sex drive at all
17. premature aging
18. No medical insurance, no vacation pay, no 401K, no sick leave, no maternity leave, basically- no fringe benefits of any kind.
19. If something should happen to you (god forbid) like rape or robbery, the cops will probably not be very helpful. Which leads a person to be>>>
20. Paraniod behavior
21. Anti social behavior. Becoming a homebody is very common amongst dancers
22. Shopping addictions
23. Depression
24. Anixety
I know that this sounds bad, but you did ask for the negatives. Personally I really enjoy being a dancer, and have a pretty strong psyche, so most of the extranous crap that goes on in the clubs really doesn't bother me. Customers call me nasty names, and I just laugh it off. After all, I'm not the one who is paying for the company of a woman ;D ;D
As far as the girls that get trapped into gangs, usually the girls were already gang members before dancing. They just get involved in dancing after they are old enough to do so. You will also see girls w/ pimps (or her "manager"). If you don't allow anyone else to handle your business ( aside from your tax accoutant and CPA), then this won't be an issue for you. Don't listen to anyone that claims that he can help you make a lot of money (do research if someone claims to be a talent agent or manager).
When a customer says to me that he can help me make a lot of money, I just answer with "So how many hours do you want to spend in VIP tonight?" If the customer starts saying something about out side the club, I just walk away. ::) ::)
Good luck to you and I hope you find success in being an exotic dancer. If you find that you don't like it, get out fast. Don't try to make it work for you if it isn't working. I've seen way too many dancers become adicted to drugs or alcohol trying to cope with a job they hate.