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can anyone help? I start my shift in less than a few hours.
Thanks!
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lord, what a complicated structure. i'd personally start with selling the nudes and then go to the 15 min/half hour vips, on the premise that you will be getting utterly nude in a special private area just for him. i suspect based on pricing that you will do best offering the 250/5 songs as much as you can once you've sold some nudes.
pretty much, and this is based on all the various posts about variable dance prices/levels at clubs, don't mention the cheapest option unless you have to. try to upsell that nudity, and see where you go from there.
also, what's the contact like? that pricing structure sounds like high-contact nude clubs in that area. if it exists in a low-contact nude club, well, awesome.
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hello,
i was curious which bikini bar was only $200 a night?
which one are you at now?
im club hunting (:
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also, what's the contact like? that pricing structure sounds like high-contact nude clubs in that area. if it exists in a low-contact nude club, well, awesome.
HA! When I asked the manager what sort of contact was allowed, he said, "ummm basically no penetration".........yeaaaaaahhh.....Needless to say, I didn't end up staying very long. The price structure was difficult to remember and it was full of cheapskates who didn't seem to want to even talk to me (seems like they were all there for the "free" nude stage shows).
I didn't even do one dance, and walked out at midnight with $25.
I'm still happy for any input though, since I'm still looking around for other good clubs with VIP rooms. Any sales tips on VIP are helpful.
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hello,
i was curious which bikini bar was only $200 a night?
which one are you at now?
im club hunting (:
Notice I said "MAX of $200". You REALLY have to hustle to make that much, especially if you don't have regulars. My average is anywhere from $80 - $150.
The bikini bar I am at is Cheetah's. It's really not worth it anymore, but I am so comfortable there - the girls and management are really cool. but that's about it. I don't want to leave until I find someplace that can offer me more money and the same comfort level.
FYI: Don't go to Pink Diamonds unless you like hanging out with a bunch of cheap thugs and doing extras.
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I was worried about this when I read the OP, and figuring I might see a horror story at the end, since I saw you'd obviously posted after the first night.
Glad to see you got out of it with so little stress, even if you didn't make much.
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I was worried about this when I read the OP, and figuring I might see a horror story at the end, since I saw you'd obviously posted after the first night.
Glad to see you got out of it with so little stress, even if you didn't make much.
Thanks...yeah, I guess you live and learn. Still hunting though.
How's everything with you, Djoser? Did you ever quit smoking? I didn't...:(
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You were smart and got out of that place quick.
I'm on day 3 1/2 now, lol--it sucks but I'm over the hump.
I sure hope you can find somewhere more worthy of your style, keep looking!
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I can't really offer any advice about a specific nude club that might suit you, but I do have a few general comments.
First, we all know the nature of the SC market in LA. With that in mind, any VIP rooms you find in LA nude clubs with a crazy high price structure like $200 for 15 minutes, or $300 for 30 minutes, will be vehicles for providing HM to UHM to customers who are so interested. There are some clubs that offer cheaper VIP rooms; in these locations, a standard lap dance (probably with 2 way contact) will be the norm.
Second, while I don't know your personal comfort level, I would think going from a bikini club to a nude club where you are expected to perform nude lap dances would be a rather abrupt change. I know there are many dancers who don't necessarily mind the idea of dancing nude on stage, but who don't want to perform nude lapdances, and thus feel precluded from working at many LA area nude clubs. If that is the case with you, I would try to find a nude club where they only perform bikini or topless lapdances (of course these will not be $40 a song).
Having said that, it is possible to work at a HM nude club and just limit yourself to doing topless lapdances where the mileage expectations will be much lower. Of course, you will probably never be a top earner this way, but you could eke out a decent nightly average (probably $400-$500 barring exceptional tips) if you are a high volume dancer.
Finally, regarding which club would best suit you, my best advice is this: you know which types of customers are attracted to you (in the demographic sense, as in age, ethnicity, and "style"). Find a club that has the largest proportion of these types of customers, and it will be much easier to prosper. Otherwise, it will be an uphill battle trying to convince customers who don't consider you their type that they want to dance with you. Hope this advice helps, FWIW.
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^^Thanks for the advice, Bailey. I don't necessarily have an issue with nude laps, but would like to stick to places that aren't as HM. I mean, where the club's only rule is "no penetration", I think I'd have a hard time competing with those who do everything but that (and probably that as well).
Two way contact is okay with me as long as a customer stays away from certain areas of my body. This may be difficult to enforce, but I would do so in order to preserve my sanity. Nudity is not something I have a problem with at all, in fact, I prefer it.
But at this point, I'm hurting financially. It's hard for me to survive on what little I do make, and I'm willing to show a bit more in order to pay my bills. There is a happy medium to be found somewhere and that is what I've been searching for.
Thanks again...
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which pink diamonds was it? pasedena or NoHo?
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North Hollywood on Bellaire Ave.
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Alexxa. have you ever tried Deja Vu I work there and it's great. we have cameras all around so no extras go on. there is two way contact but limited and you can always tell them not to touch. we don't do fully nude lap dances only topless ones, or you can do a nude one but its all air.
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Alexxa. have you ever tried Deja Vu I work there and it's great. we have cameras all around so no extras go on. there is two way contact but limited and you can always tell them not to touch. we don't do fully nude lap dances only topless ones, or you can do a nude one but its all air.
No, I haven't tried Deja Vu...is this the one in North Hollywood? I thought that was more of a peep show type of thing. I'd definitely be willing to try it out if you say it's good.
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that's venus faire, it's also owned by deja vu. i worked there for a while but it's not as good of money. you should try the one on coldwater canyon in north hollywood we have alot of girl and you need to hustle but it's good
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Thanks for the info, Brooke! I'll definitely check it out. Do you know the best time to audition?
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ummm.. come in during the day, that's when it'll be the slowest and not as many girls make it early within a couple hours of opening. it gives you & the manager time to talk, audition, take the tour, fill out contracts and if you want work. otherwise they'll let you come back & work when you want. we do have alot of girls but with lots of girls comes flexibility in your schedule. see ya soon
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Deja Vu NoHo's Management has always screwed me, and the girls who have been there for 10+ years seem to have it on lock. And I'm not so sure they always watch what is going on in those teensy cubicles...
But about VIP=We sell a ton at the Rouge although I'm not sure if everyone has the same standards as me. Alot of girls pull tricks out of their bags and end up silently not coming back . But there is medium contact, no one is really stepping out of line and there have been some good nights lately.
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Hey Kennedy, do you think they don't come back because management tells them not to, or because they find enough customers to not have to work there anymore?
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Hey Kennedy, do you think they don't come back because management tells them not to, or because they find enough customers to not have to work there anymore?
A mix of both. But mostly the former, leastly the latter. They try not to gossip with us and it's sort of on a need to know basis you know? If I were to directly ask a manager what happened to so-and-so they might find a way to skirt the issue and think it were tacky that i was so nosy. I do think that girls pick up quality spenders here though. Basically-If a girl is doing extras she won't have to or be able to dance for very long.