If this has discussed, sorry! I couldn't find it.
Anyway. When going to sit with a customer: Should I ask if they want company? Or should I just take a seat and try to quickly win my way into their heart..?
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If this has discussed, sorry! I couldn't find it.
Anyway. When going to sit with a customer: Should I ask if they want company? Or should I just take a seat and try to quickly win my way into their heart..?
I think it's rude to just plop down unless they specifically asked you to join them, like if you were on stage and he cam up to you, tipped you and said "I'm sitting over there, I'd love it if you joined me when you're done with your stage set". But if you just go over and sit down,
A) That seat could already be taken, B) You could also be waisting your time if he's not interested. I'd much rather a customer tell me he's waiting for someone else so I can move along then have someone waist my time. Some customers will be nice and won't say anything to a girl who just sits down with him and may get one dance, but you'll most likely only get 1 dance out of politeness of the customer not wanting to say no, but the goal is to get more than 1 dance and the ultimate goal is to get VIP/CR. Hope this helps.
I always ask "Can I sit with you?" or "Would you like some company?" Then just by their reaction I can tell if he's going to be worth the time to sit with him. If he opens up, smiles, and says "Of course," then you know you'll get some money out of him. Once in a while they say things like, "If you want," and "It's a free country," so then I might sit for 30 seconds or so and see if I can make them friendlier, otherwise I've only wasted 30 seconds on a guy who's not interested. So asking to sit I think gives a good first impression (that you're polite, respect his space and respect the fact that you might not be his "type") and also helps you to see if he's really interested.
If he says "I'm waiting for someone," or "I'm just hanging out," then at least you haven't plopped down and talked for 10 minutes only to learn this after you've already wasted time on him.
I agree with the previous two girls, always ask. The girls at my club who plop annoy me b/c the guy is not interested and they keep sitting w/ him. It's a form of cockblocking the girls that the custy may want to get a dance from.
Yep i always ask "would you mind if i joined you" with a smile
i -mostly- agree with the previous statements, but it also depends on the club. if you work in a smaller more "bar" style club, sitting is more common. i don't always ask because it seems to confuse the customers at my club. i used to ask all the time, but they would normally just look at me as if i was crazy and say something like "why wouldn't i want you to sit?" or "isn't that what you're supposed to do?". now, instead of asking, but in order to still be polite, i just say hi first and judge their reaction/body language. after i introduce myself and make some quick friendly chit-chat (while standing or leaning in) most customers will turn the chair so i can sit or otherwise gesture for me to do so. i usually let them take the lead. if they turn away from me quickly and face the bar or cross their legs and stare at the stage while i say hi... i just go elsewhere. also, if the convo dies or the guy doesn't seem into me at all after a song or two i'll ask if he wants a dance. if he doesn't i move on so that i'm not wasting either of our time. if the guy seems generally interested, is buying me drinks or is tipping well, i'll wait a little longer to ask for dances, esp. if it's slow.
i think it is polite to ask, especially with new customers. plus, if they say no, then you can be pretty sure they aren't going to want a dance either and move on without wasting anymore time. of course, that isn't always the case, but generally...
Also- keeping in my I work in a high hustle, sometimes very slow bar- if there are not that many available customers, you can occasionally win over the less than enthused men. If a guy is all "yeah, sit if you want..." while not really looking at me, I can sometimes still win em over if I smile my head off and get them talking about something they like. It's obviously harder to do, but they will open right up sometimes, and if you haven't got any better options, it's worth it to try for five minutes and get some dances rather than sit around at the bar.
Yes, please ask! There is a plopper on my shift now and it's a total pain in my ass. Customers will be waiting for me and when I do free up to go over, she's camped out beside my guy. (for whatever reason men just can't seem to tell a gal to go away) So I wait till she get's a clue..(hey this guy isn't even talking to me) until I can go make my money. (I don't want to come off as a bitch by cutting into her "hustle") It's annoying! She is wasting not only her time but mine too!! >:(
Yes ALWAYS ask to sit! Some guys don't want to chat. The girls that plop down bother the hell out of me. DO NOT sit for too long. Girls that "latch on" to custies make it hard for all of us to make money. DO NOT sit for longer than 10 minutes if he has not given you any money or bought a drink. I don't care if he promises a dance, tell him you will come back and check on him and don't sit for longer than ten. If he tips or buys drinks don't sit for longer than 15. Ive seen guys leave, rather than be stuck with some girl they had absolutely no interest in.
*You should only sit this long if the room is VERY slow. You will have to modify it to 2-3 min on very busy nights. Managing your time is crucial in this business.
so somewhat related; in situations like lyssa lynn described, other than waiting the other girl out, what do you do? this is a huge problem in my club.
i generally ask before i sit, unless it's a regular, and they expect me to sit and rest for a bit. then they get their dances. i've noticed at my club, i'm one of 3-4 girls that actually asks before i sit, and those 3-4 girls are the top money makers every single night. when you ask you're not only asking if you can sit, but if they are interested in spending time with you. if they say they are waiting for someone, or they aren't very enthusiastic about spending time with you, what makes you think they'll spend any money on you?
From a customer standpoint, of the pet peeves I have at a club this would be way up there, the girl who just comes and sits down univited and then won't leave even if you totally ignore her. She maybe isn't your type IE I like the Anna Nicole Smith type and she is a short bruunette with A-cups, or you just got there and want to check out a few girls before making the choice who you want to spend some time and money on. Invariably 10 seconds after she sits down the waitress shows up wanting to know if you want another drink and "would'like to buy the lady one" Well you hate to act like a dick and say no, but you know if you buy her a drink god only knows how long she will then stay. My normal move when a girl sits down univited is to say I have to go the bathroom, take my sweet time about it and hope she will be gone by the time I get back, a few times I have had to go sit by the stage and give away some ones because she was still there.
It depends what type of club I'm working at. Sometimes I work in small clubs where dancers get drink commissions in addition to stage tips and private dance money. At these smaller clubs, the dancers will just sit down without asking about 95% of the time, and guys look at you kind of strangely if you ask if you can join them or if they'd like company. At these clubs, I just sit down, and I can usually tell in the first 30 seconds or so if the custy is interested in me or not. If they're sitting close to me, looking at me a lot, smiling a lot, and appear interested in what I have to say, then I know they're interested. If their arms are crossed or they're barely looking at me or talking to me, then I know to ask for a dance and move on quickly if the answer is no. At these smaller clubs, sometimes guys don't want dances but are happy to buy you drinks, and the drink commission money can add up if no one is buying dances. If they don't want a dance, I'll ask the custy to buy me a drink if he hasn't offered. If they don't want to do that either, then I move on to the next guy.
At larger clubs, I either ask the guy if I can join them first, or if the club is really busy, I'll stand up while I chit chat with them for a minute or two before asking for a dance.
A good thing to say is "You don't mind if I sit down, do you?" instead of "May I join you?" or "Would you like some company?" It's harder to say no to.
always ask. so it saves you times if they say "actually i'm waiting for so and so"
ask to sit. you can pretty much sum up who he is right off the bat. if he doesnt even look at you when you approach the tabel and say hi, then just keep on walkin. thats how i work.