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Hi Paige thanks for your input.
Whist I appreciate what you say in general I would like to point out that the photos were for a specific purpose and when I sent copies to the people in the shoot it was only for them to look at nothing more.
It was out of courtesy that I sent them some samples from the shoot so they could see what was taken. In normal circumstances I have no trouble in sharing photos and am sure that GoldCoastGirl would do the right thing. As I say it would have been nice to be asked first was all so I could be given the opportunity to raise any issues I might have had similarly if I started posting photos from the shoot on the net as I have not had a release signed for those photos. I accept that there were no bad intentions involved.
I hope from a legal and commercially responsible position I have to take those things into consideration. Just like if someone took a photo from the web of you and did something with it without your consent or knowledge.
So far from being crabby I am merely pointing out that I have a relationship with the agent in question to protect and I dont think she would take lightly that photos taken for her in whatever cicumstances were being put freely onto the net and without any markings on them.
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Actually Paige I thanked those who said nice things about the photos first so if you would prefer I broke that original post into two to make it less lame then imagine its 2 posts.
At the end of the day I appreciate the possible excitement someone has to show their photos and thats very satisfying.
When I have shot girls for magazine sets I am happy to give them web galleries of photos for them to use and yes they are watermarked but only a small one and not in a way that overpowers the photo - otherwise why show the photo
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^^^ And... all of that could have been said in an email to GCG in private. It would have been 100% more professional that way. Also, you're original post mentioned nothing about the agent involved. It was just a "hey, look at me" sort of thing.
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Paige - I know the photograoher who is talking, I infact just realised who it was. Thisi particular photographer shoots for commercial only (to my understanding) he sells this photographs to his clients (whether it be magazines or websites) the photos should not be paraded all over the internet. I know when I did a shoot with the photographer, I signed papers saying I would not use them at all unless it was for the particular agency and magazines (to which the photographer will send on my behalf)
All in all, most of the time, the best thing to do is to ask before you post the photos up, I am sure that the photographer would have also spoken to GCG over email.
I found this photographer always to be professional, and infact glad that it took a SW post to be re-united with the photographer after no contact in a while....
Thanks
xxx
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The legalities isnt my point, M2W..... its how he went about it. And if these images are sold to an agent, its the agent who should bitch, above all else.
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All parties to the shoot knew who the photos were for in the first place so while it might not have been specifically mentioned here on this forum it was known who had interest in the shoot.
Hope that clears up any misunderstanding about professionalism.
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^^^ Um.. no, not really. But sure.
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I know that if the particular agency it was shot for knew, she would rip it through everyone, including both models and the photographer :-) Besides, the photographer has copyright to the photos (I assume he does) then he has all right for the photographs to have his watermark on them !!
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That does it; I'm booking tickets to Oz asap.
Or, another idea, GCG, why don't you join mer-chan on her visit to Tokyo
next year? You'll love the place, won't she, mer-chan?
-Ww
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Whoa!
I had no clue Goldcoastgirl was a girl!
And one hell of a girl at that!
She's blonde AND brunette!
I must have her!
*Fists the table*
It is done. Gold Coast Girl shall be mine. NOTHING SHALL GET IN MY WAY!
ooo look! hot cocoa!
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Well, we know one thing... GCG can't keep her hands off MermaidNZ's tits. Lucky chick, that GCG. :)
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Oh damn. I really honestly did not mean anything ill.. I was honestly just so damn excited about the shoot and photos that i wanted to share esp. the fact that both mermaidnz and myself are regular forum participants... I thought it would be fantastic to share such a momentus occasion amongst friends on this forum.
I never ever ever had any ill intentions. I honeslty didn't know I wouldn't be allowed to share them here on SW! I was under the impression that I could share the photos amongst friends yet not use them on my modelling portfolios or in any other way in a promotional sense.
By posting the photos here, I wasn't promoting us.. just sharing the shoot results.
I really really meant no harm. As I said before, please forgive me. I wasn't approached until now on this forum that I had done something wrong by sharing the photos. Damn :(
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Or, another idea, GCG, why don't you join mer-chan on her visit to Tokyo next year?
Unfortunately, Japan is NOT on my places to visit. I have major troubles with the language and alot of the guys do not take to me to be honest (well, they never really did in all my years of club dancing and I was exposed to alot of Japanese men) not to mention the fact that I rather stay in my own country working (I feel safer plus have a nearly 14 year old cat to serve).
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^^^ Sweetie dont fret. Breathe woman! He's just being a crabby ass. Unless your agent is exploding your phone, screaming your head off about this, I wouldnt let it get to you this way.
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Unfortunately, Japan is NOT on my places to visit. I have major troubles with the language and alot of the guys do not take to me to be honest (well, they never really did in all my years of club dancing and I was exposed to alot of Japanese men)
OK, I'll come to your place then. :D
More seriously but not so much to try to persuade you (I wouldn't want to talk anyone into anything) as for the info of others who might be reading this, I should mention that neither of the above factors are necessarily serious problems. First, while it is definitely an advantage in the club and even moreso in life outside to speak the language, it is not essential. In fact, the large majority of foreign dancers working in Tokyo SCs speak no Japanese at all, or only a tiny bit*; however, all of them that I have ever met speak at least enough English to chat with customers (often with a strong accent from some part of the world). Second, this works because the customers in the Tokyo SCs are a mixture of foreign men, business travelers and such, and Japanese men who speak at least a little English and who are are attracted (sometimes obsessively) to foreign women. The first group generally can't get into all of the many other male-oriented nightlife establishments that outnumber the gaijin SCs a 100 or a 1000 to one, and the second group has a huge number of other choices and so only shows up if they are particularly interested in English-speaking foreign dancers. This, btw, is most of the gaijin SCs were always in Roppongi, the major foreigner nightlife area of the city; I think that all of the remaining ones are.
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not to mention the fact that I rather stay in my own country working (I feel safer plus have a nearly 14 year old cat to serve).
Feeling safe is important (to being happy), and big (REALLY big in this case) foreign cities full of signs one can't read and people with whom one can't communicate are enough to make a lot of people feel uneasy, so if that is your situation, Tokyo probably isn't for you. However, it is still worth noting that Tokyo is EXTREMELY safe in reality, despite how it might feel; I don't know any statistics, but I'd guess that it is actually one of the safest places in the world for a dancer to work, despite the wild stories one often hears.
As for the cat, I have no answer for that; it would be impractical to bring a cat (or any other pet) with you for various reasons. So, I guess it will have to be your place.
mer-chan, please correct me if you think that I have any of the above wrong.
-Ww
*The number of Japanese speaking dancers in the clubs has gone up a bit in recent years I think, due to the crack-down on havng proper visas and working papers. This has caused the clubs to hire more Japanese dancers and more gaijin dancers who are long term residents (and thus more likely to have learned the language), but they are still in a minority.
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^^^ Sweetie dont fret. Breathe woman! He's just being a crabby ass. Unless your agent is exploding your phone, screaming your head off about this, I wouldnt let it get to you this way.
As I said before, it wasn't until I looked in this thread that I was informed that I had done something wrong. Actually, to be blantantly honest, even prior to this photo shoot when I was working with/for this agency I have yet to receive any bookings.
I get most of my bookings/work through about four different people/agencies at present with bookings here and there (not so often) from a few others... and yet to get really anything thru the particular agency that these photos were taken for ... I thought the photos might be able to help get me more work ?? Ah well.
I'm not fretting too much just that I wanted to make it plainly clear and obvious that it was a mistake I made with no ill intent attached to it. I really was (at the time) excited about the shoot and wanted to share. Is that really so wrong?
I'm human. I make mistakes.
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wow. how did i miss this threads change of events?! rofl! vee look at the catrastophy you cased, i mean, i knew we were good looking and all, but this is just too funny !!!
so you didnt credit David, oops your bad. tbh, if i was posting pics on sw from a shoot i had just done i probably wouldnt credit the photographer either.it would seem irrelevant when a large % of girls here arent even from the same country,and will not know the said photographer anyways.
of course, i always give ample credit to the photographer and shoot source on portfolios, and even on my myspace.
honest mistake vee.im sure if anyone had asked who shot them, you would have redirected them to the rightful person anyways...
enough of that.
Wwanderer.... your trying to convert more gaijins to japan huh? lol ive already tried convincing Vee once before, she didnt budge :( its not a place for everyone mind you, i thrive on the stress of the unknown so i guess thats why im drawn there,and anywhere else i can get to! eveything you said was right tho. japan is indeed extreamly safe. i feel safer there then i do here.
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oh, vee, what was the agency we were shooting for anyways?? i thought it was alicia? as in mild to wild..? no?
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Wwanderer.... your trying to convert more gaijins to japan huh?
Guilty as charged...pleasure loves company as much as misery in my book.
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its not a place for everyone mind you
I agree, and I have met plenty who tried it and can't stand the place...makes their skin crawl just to think about it. Each to his/her own.
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i thrive on the stress of the unknown so i guess thats why im drawn there,and anywhere else i can get to!
I believe it. I've had you pegged for a severe case of wanderlust (not the same thing as wwandererlust, unfortunately) for quite a while. I saw something somewhere on SW recently about a trip you are planning to Darwin en route to Singapore or Bangkok or somewhere like that, right? I'm instantly envious....not that I can complain about my own travel opportunities, but I always want more. Be warned, it makes it damn hard to settle down.
-Ww
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i dont ever plan to settle down now :) why stay in one place,when theres so many amazing places to see an experiance?
anyway,totally off topic.
hows them photos? hehe
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i dont ever plan to settle down now :) why stay in one place,when theres so many amazing places to see an experiance?
anyway,totally off topic.
hows them photos? hehe
The Duo From Down Under World Tour! I could see that happening!! :D
You two really do look awesome. Brava to you both for your hotness!
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oh, vee, what was the agency we were shooting for anyways?? i thought it was alicia? as in mild to wild..? no?
No.. it was meant to be for http://www.eroticastrippers.com/ ... Alicia Duval.
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tbh, if i was posting pics on sw from a shoot i had just done i probably wouldnt credit the photographer either.it would seem irrelevant when a large % of girls here arent even from the same country,and will not know the said photographer anyways.
of course, i always give ample credit to the photographer and shoot source on portfolios, and even on my myspace.
honest mistake vee.im sure if anyone had asked who shot them, you would have redirected them to the rightful person anyways...
You're correct. ;D I didn't think to give credit as this isn't a modelling site nor was I using them in a way to promote us. As I have already said, I was just sharing amonst friends and excite about the shoot. No ill intent meant.
Naturally, I give credit where credit is due on modelling portfolios and web sites if I was sharing the pics there .........and would've given credit if someone asked who the photographer was here (however no one did)
All in all, a lesson has been learnt by me (and maybe other people).
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Makes me wish I was going down under :magnify: