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approaching groups
Hey everyone i have a problem with approaching groups of customers. I notice that when a big group of guys come in a club they all seem to sit close to the stage and in a circular form. This makes it hard to approach them because usually there are no seats left for you to slide into next to one of them. What would be a good hustle to use in this situation, especially if you dont have another girl to hit the table with you.
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Re: approaching groups
I'll be honest, I rarely approach groups. I will walk close in their area though..hopefully then the Leader of the group can check me out and call me over. If that doesn't happen, I keep walking. Men in groups (in my experience) are to arrogant for me to get worked up over.
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Re: approaching groups
It depends on the group for me. I will not approach a group of white guys in business suits b/c I usually get a cool response. If I corner one of them though, they are gung ho about dancing with me. If the guys are more casually dressed I will approach them though. I get a good response then.
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Re: approaching groups
best advice i can give is to look for the one guy *not* participating in group chat/fun. then i walk over and sit on his lap/arm of chair and strike up a convo. if someone is involved in group conversation they will be less likely to spend at that moment. the good thing with this is that if one likes me, he may reccommend to his friends.
other approach woul be to look for look for the ugly guy. he's not used to getting attn from pretty girls probably and will be quick to spend since you picked him over the hottie totties in the group.
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Re: approaching groups
I have the exact same problem-well, almost. If I see a large table of guys, for some reason I tend to avoid them like the plague! But the thing is, I don't really know why I do this! It's not like I've had some bad experience in the past sitting with large groups at work. Maybe I feel intimidated? As a matter of fact, my very first night dancing, one of the managers took me up into VIP to this table of about six guys, all young, mid to late twenties, and I entertained all of them with no problem. Other girls would come and go-but I stayed, had a great time, danced for nearly all of them and made lots of $$! So neddless to say, I don't know *why* I have this large group phobia. But anyways, back to your original question. I would (well, maybe not me.... :P ) approach them like any other customer. Kind of sashay (sp?) by their table and look to see who is checking you out. Once you find them, and chances are if it's a large enough group, *someone* will be-approach them, maybe put your hand on their shoulder and crouch down and make small talk with them. I.E.- "hey, how are you doing tonight?" "are you guys having fun, staying out of trouble, etc.?", "what's your name?", and so on. If they seem responsive, ask if they'd like some company, and if they/he says yes, well just plop yourself right down on his lap! ;)
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Re: approaching groups
This is cheesy but I go up to the table and stand right in front of them and say, "I heard there were some troublemakers over here, is that true?" Then I give them a flirty smile and gravitate to the ones who smile back. I don't dollar dance them, but I introduce myself and let them know that I'm available for dances and that I want them all to come up to the stage.
You've got a naked (almost) body and a great smile, you have all you need to approach them. They're waiting for it!
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Re: approaching groups
i think groups can be a good niche to hit because a lot of girls are intimidated by them, yet they frequently have lots of spending potential. i will usually go up to one of the guys (probably one that i have already exchanged a flirty glance or two with) and first i'll stand behind him and just barely touch his neck with my hand, like maybe it was accidental when i was walking by him. then i'll just lean against his chair and ask how the evening is going while making very flirty eye contact with at least a few of them. i might ask where they have been before this, or if they like my new leg warmers, or if they're from outside of town. it doesn't really matter, just something innane that is easy for them to talk about. usually that is enough to get you into a group, or at the very least to make a lasting impression that might sell some dances later in the evening.
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Re: approaching groups
Groups of 3 or less patrons I will approach by myself. Groups with 4 or more patrons in the group I will bring a "friend" over with me and bounce off her... if she has a more dominant personality or just something that makes her more dominant than I will take the more sub-dued submissive shy stance as such or if I need to be dominant I will do so.... I find this works best as it allows you to have control of an easy number of people.
Having that "friend" (someone you can work with) can be a bonus.
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Re: approaching groups
with large groups, i usually wait a little bit to approach them. while i'm waiting i try to "scout out" the personalities of the guys in the group. i'm looking for the one who seems to be the most "into" the trip (the ringleader) and of course, the guy spending the most money. those are the ones you want to pull a chair next to. they'll introduce you to their friends, and probably buy their friends dances. the last time i worked there was a group of 8 guys. maybe 4 girls went over to them the first 1/2 hour they were there. they'd hustle one or two of the guys, sell a dance or two and then leave. i went over once they had some more drinks in them, sat next to "the ringleader" (which none of the other girls did) and he wound up buying 3 dances for himself and bought 4 of the other guys dances, 2 of which also paid for me for their dance. the "i know he already paid you, but i'd like to as well" sort of thing. i think a lot of girls make the mistake of sitting with the nervous/shy guys in a group.
also, finding the most outspoken of the group usually eases the pain of trying to make introductions. since, they're happy to do it for you.
now... the number of guys -i- hate most is TWO. uhhg. 3 is "ok" 4 or more is better. one is obviously easy. but, there's just something about TWO guys. i have such a hard time in that situation unless another girl is with me.