How to hustle & make $$$ when the club is packed over max limit?
I don't know about other clubs because this is the only club I've worked at. I've noticed and other girls have too that on nights where the club is so packed that all the seats are filled, many many customers are standing around because there's nowhere to sit, that it's so crowded that it's hard to even walk around and even make it to your stage set on time, that it's so hard sometimes impossible to make a lot of money on those kind of nights. You would think, "hey, there's lots of customers in here so I should be making a lot of money" but many times it's the opposite. Is it because guys aren't comfortable when it's that packed? I always thought customers like places when there's a lot of people so it's like a party atmosphere-nobody likes to go to a bar/night club that's dead. Is it because guys think because there's so many guys there that someone else will tip the girls and get dances so they don't have to pay and can get to watch for free? Was is it about the extremely packed nights that are so hard to make money? And how can I somehow turn this around to work in my favor, to use the more guys to make money instead of making less money? Any suggestions? DW-got any advice you'd like to chime in? Thanks everyone!!!!
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Oh my gosh, the same damn thing happens in my dumb ass club. We've been over the fire limit a few times, and I hate when all these people get there, because I make more money when I can sit down and talk to someone. Now on to your question. This is what I do when it's packed in my dumb ass club. If any of this will work for you, you can't say I didn't try to help.
When the club is really packed I go to spots that don't get that much attenion, and ask if they want a dance. I don't say want a dance. I change what I say from person to person, but it ='s want a dance. In this neglected area of the club they feel glad that someone fought the crowd to talk to them, and on those nights when it's so crowded that the stage is blocked, I might be the hottest thing they've seen all night.
I do dollar dances. Think about it this way. It's only ten seconds, and if you could somehow get everybody in the club to give you a dollar, you might just make 200 bucks depending on how many people your club can hold. Also with the dollar dance, most folks will give you more than a dollar. And a lot of them buy full dances.
This is pretty lame and I know it's lame, but I work in a lame club with lot's of cheap custys. I just walk up smile and ask for a dollar. I know, shame on me, but if you worked at my lame ass club you'd do it too.
Sometimes you have to remind them of why they're there, or wht the purpose of a strip club is. I've done other things too but I can't remember them right now. If I think of anymore I'll write back.
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Rayna Skye
I do dollar dances. Think about it this way. It's only ten seconds, and if you could somehow get everybody in the club to give you a dollar, you might just make 200 bucks depending on how many people your club can hold. Also with the dollar dance, most folks will give you more than a dollar. And a lot of them buy full dances.
Dollar dances just cheapen you as a dancer IMO. I REFUSED to do dollar dances at my club. If you want me topless dancing in front of you I'm gonna need $19 extra dolla's baby ;)
If you're walkin around doing $1 dances and trying to make $200 that's gonna take you a little over a half hour to do. And when the club is packed to capacity like you say, what's wrong with walking around asking "wanna see me naked" "wanna dance" or whatever...
I try to work smarter and not harder for my money. I refuse to bust my ass to make a dollar. Hell, I usually hustle more to get VIP's/Champagne rooms so that I can sit on my ass and not dance the entire time.
When it's packed, use it to your advantage. Leo, if it's packed to capacity like you say, opt to sit for a minute or 2 with the man who is sitting alone. That's what I do when I'm in a "sit down" type of mood. I'm not usually one to approach a group of dudes to dance..but that's just me.
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I said my club is lame. people come to my club to fuck. I didn't want to say it, but I assumed by as many time as I said my club was lame I wouldn't get any flack. Seeing as i'm not about to do that to make money, I do what I can. Before any ones ask me to change clubs, there aren't too many clubs that will hire me, and the ones that will are just like this! Yes dollar dance do cheapen me, but most of the custy call us hoes, and bitches, sluts, cunts anything else you can think of. They also sit around and eye fuck us. So I don't like doing dollar dances, as I thought I said. But hmmm, should I let them look at me for free, or should I at least make a buck from a fucked up situation. Yes it will take a long ass time to make 200 dollars that way, but in my club most of the girls have given up on even talking to hte custy. They sit in small groups and talk to each other, so who do you think makes the most money. The person who took it upon themself to at least as for a dollar or the chicks sitting at the bar talking to the other chicks sitting at the bar.
Holla
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Dollar dances work depending on the club and are required in some clubs. In many small clubs I work at, when we get off stage we go around and do 20 second or so $ dances. It basically is a way to get acquainted with the customers, and in the clubs where we do them it works in two ways: no.1 it gets money from guys who wouldn't spend $20 on a dance, and No.2, it opens the door up to sell full price dances to potential money spenders. Dollar dances won't work for guys standing up.
In the case of a packed club, if a club is full, but everyone is seated, that is a good thing. But when guys are standing, no matter what type of club you work in, it is hard to sell guys who are standing up. In that kind of situation it is better to focus on the guys who are seated, and randomly scan the floor for guys who are standing who are older and alone. If guys are standing in groups it is very hard to gain rapport and control of the situation in order to make dance sales. If you have a good DJ, now is the time to ask him to push the guys to tip and buy dances who are standing up. Of course, DJ's respond to tips, so offer to tip him more if he does a good job of pushing the crowd to spend. This is the ideal time for the DJ to stop the stage and get all the dancers who are not in VIP to approach everyone for a dance special. Then guys feel a sense of obligation, and that can stop them from wandering around like they are in a sports bar. Once some of them who are standing buy a dance special, some will buy additional dances at regular price.
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Rayna Skye
but most of the custy call us hoes, and bitches, sluts, cunts anything else you can think of. They also sit around and eye fuck us. So I don't like doing dollar dances, as I thought I said. But hmmm, should I let them look at me for free, or should I at least make a buck from a fucked up situation.
Do what you do momma..You like it I love it. Obviously the situation can't be TO bad..cause you're still there putting up with the bs. Hmm for ALL THAT work for $200 with the verbal and mental abuse you put up with, I'd rather get a day job. Good luck on finding a better club to hire you though...
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I seem to make way more $$$$$ on nights where my club is packed as I feed off the party atmosphere. You just have to change your approach.
Instead of sitting down with them and doing the chat thing just walk up like you're really excited and having a good time and say something like "hey can I steal you away and take you up to VIP/private area?".
I have far more confidence when the club is packed. I just walk up and if there is a group of guys standing or sitting I'll say "hey guys what's going on? you's having a good night?" etc.
you could also use the packed thing to your advantage by suggesting that u can take them somewhere a little more private and less packed.
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I'd like to thank Jaizaine and Tina for having something worth wild to say, that might help leo girl make some money, seeing as I thought that was what this thread was about.
Here is something that I hope will be helpful.
In the event that you do sell a dance, and it's somewhere where dances can be watched by the custys. Like maybe a table dance. Look around to see who's watching you. If they watch for awhile, go up to them when you can, and say maybe "If you thought that was hot wait till you see what I can do to you." or something like that.
Unless you can't do table dances at your club or they somehow cheapen us.
I'm done.
Nothing more to say.
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Both Tina and Jaizaine are on the right track here. While I do believe that guys like the party atmosphere, it becomes a lot less fun when it's so crowed to the point where you can't even breathe. So, if you're in an environment where it may be less-than-favorable, make that obvious point part of your rapport building and close. You always want to get your customers leaning in the affirmative on everything you do so that your close will trigger that affirmation. Hence, smaller commitments lead to larger ones. One of the best ways to do this is to get them to commit to something that's really obvious. If the club is really packed, you should walk up to a group and say, "Damn this place is packed tonight, isn't it? How are you guys tonight?". Then, a few seconds later, use that strategy as part of your close by saying, "I'll tell you what, how about we go somewhere that is a lot more quiet and I can even do some dances for you there too."
Whenever you have a customer in some sort of pain...whether it be in need of buying a house you are selling or standing in an over-crowded strip club, you always want to point out the pain and then offer the pleasure.
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I take advantage of the club being so full. So many girls are discouraged by it, so I put on a super skimpy outfit, usually on the verge of costumy, and wanna dance my way to a full garter. Ya, it's everything I learned not to do in DW's course, but it's easy, and it works. I save my real hustle for less party nights, where I know I won't have to wait an extra 10 minutes for a vip room to be open
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my way of making money in a super packed club is i talk to the guys sitting along the back walls. usually they are already out of the way and just waiting for some attention. i also push my way through the most crowded area where everyone is standing up and i'll bump into a guy who was making good eye contact with me and i ask him for some private time (i've already scoped out the corner) and drag him to it. that usually works but every now and then i catch a guy fighting for the door lol. i also walk really fast through the club in each direction like i'm in a hurry and people tend to stop me the more i run. i look at their tables, smile, then haul ass and they pull me over like they can't let me get away. its a hit and miss hustle but it gives me something to do other than sit on my butt all night and it makes me look busy. they always want me to stay longer when they think i have to leave soon.
i hope some of that helps you. i get bad anxiety when my club fills up like that (we can seat 700) and sometimes i just have to get in the eye of the storm and work my way out. by the time i reach the dressing room i've racked up 10+ dances just trying to get away.
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DancerWealth
Both Tina and Jaizaine are on the right track here. While I do believe that guys like the party atmosphere, it becomes a lot less fun when it's so crowed to the point where you can't even breathe. So, if you're in an environment where it may be less-than-favorable, make that obvious point part of your rapport building and close. You always want to get your customers leaning in the affirmative on everything you do so that your close will trigger that affirmation. Hence, smaller commitments lead to larger ones. One of the best ways to do this is to get them to commit to something that's really obvious. If the club is really packed, you should walk up to a group and say, "Damn this place is packed tonight, isn't it? How are you guys tonight?". Then, a few seconds later, use that strategy as part of your close by saying, "I'll tell you what, how about we go somewhere that is a lot more quiet and I can even do some dances for you there too."
Whenever you have a customer in some sort of pain...whether it be in need of buying a house you are selling or standing in an over-crowded strip club, you always want to point out the pain and then offer the pleasure.
DW, thanks for your input and everyone too! Trust me, I tried ALL of these stragedy's on Saturday night and was hitting a brick wall everytime! If one of the floormen hadn't found me a VIP, I would've walked out with one of my worst Saturday's ever and Saturday is 9/10 my best nights. I kept getting the "I'm here for the game, I'm just watching, excuse, excuse, excuse", this was also the same night of the thread I posted in SG about the guy that came in and for some reason didn't think that our dances cost him anything!!! He was somehow shocked that it cost money to get a dance for him!>:( Of course I didn't let him get away with it!!
So, another question, are there just some nights that you have one deadend after another and other nights where people are left and right stuffing money in your garter? Why is it on some nights everyone wants you and other nights it's like nobody does?
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That just the way it is... sometimes your hot, sometimes you gotta try ;)
Last night was am night, i usually do a bit lower then average even w/ 5x as many people. I was standing on stage, pissed i didn't sell the feature, freezing, w/ my arms crossed to keep warm, and ended up getting a vip to "lift my spirits". Sometimes it's like that
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Flexibility is real important in this business and I try to strike a balance onstage, as well as, on the floor. You have to be able to change up your style to suit the clientele. I guarantee somebody's making money on a packed club night. Find out who that is and do what she's doing, literally.
I can't say enough about how important it is to create a buzz about yourself on the floor. There's never a case where no one is watching. Always smile and look really attentive to the guy/girl you're bringing to and from a dance. Scan the crowd for onlookers when you're onstage and on the floor, make eye contact and smile -- so they know that you see them. That's who I go to first. Forget about approaching guys cold turkey on a packed club night. Exhaust the potential of guys who have seen you first.
When I'm in any section of the club I'm generally seen by everyone in that section. I make a scene, but tastefully. I'm the joy at that table so guys want me to come to their table. I create this air of the "it girl" it's hard to explain, but the end result on any night is "that's the girl I want a dance from, get her."
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Another tip... it is important to approach all the guys that look interested in you on these nights and also to do so quickly and efficiently. However, if the club is a decent size, try to scatter your approach so that you are not hopping in a straight line table to table with multiple no's. Chat up a guy and keep your eyes open for other potential targets in the area. If you get a no from your current prospect, excuse yourself gracefully and walk by the next prospect (give him a little wink/shoulder pat etc). Go work another area of the floor, talk to another guy or two, and then come back and sell that second prospect. If he asks where you were tell him you were busy dancing. That way you caught his attention a couple of times but didn't make it super obvious that he is talking to a girl who just got rejected (which to some guys makes you look less attractive).
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Lola Rose
I take advantage of the club being so full. So many girls are discouraged by it, so I put on a super skimpy outfit, usually on the verge of costumy, and wanna dance my way to a full garter. Ya, it's everything I learned not to do in DW's course, but it's easy, and it works. I save my real hustle for less party nights, where I know I won't have to wait an extra 10 minutes for a vip room to be open
I do that too! One those super packed nights (friday & especially saturday) I have a specific outfit that doesn't come out any other time. It barely covers anything and attracts alot of attention.
Dollar dancing isn't allowed at my club, but girls still do it. I not going to outright dance for the guy, but I'll get a little close to him and act horny while he is still tipping. As soon as he is done and makes it clear he doesn't want a dance- I'm gone...no looking back. It's usually the ones who stand by the bar or wall all night.
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I'll echo jaizaine that it's a way different approach when the club is busy than when the club is slow. I'm VERY good at slow-day hustle and I'm usually very confident as long as there aren't too many girls, but I've only gotten used to busy nights in the last couple months. I realized a major obstacle was that I wasn't having fun, as crowds intimidate me, so now I usually buy myself one drink before I get started so I don't feel as anxious -- then do what she describes, just walk up all relaxed/excited and sort of drape over a guy and say "I'm having fun, come have fun with me! Like right now! It'll be cool!"
Mind you I don't advocate drinking to excess, and everyone has their own tricks for taking the edge off.
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I spend more money in a less than packed club. I feel like Friday and Saturday is amatuer night with some guys in the club with their rent check. Also, some girls may do better in a crowded club because they just stand out more. A blonde in a skimpy red bikini or a dark skin in a white skimpy bikini just gets to the point faster.
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You better get on the grind baby and put your smile on:) and ask every guy in the room for a lap dance. You will make lots of money during the holiday spirirt season.:D