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Blow me off already, would you?
After a light hearted introduction and conversation, I go for the kill. Would he like a dance or a VIP?
"No, not today. Next time. When do you work?"
Like you're coming back! Why do you ask when I work? You won't be in. You never are. Are you saying it because you have no balls to leave your answer as a simple "no"? If I believed you were to come back, what good would it do? I would watch the door every shift afterwards, and when it opens, I'd think Is it him? Is it? and be sadly disappointed. My feelings would be hurt for being lied to, for my hopes being raised, for going through the rejection week after week after week when you don't show. Way to handle people, buddy. You must have been popular in high school. Your social skills are outta control.
I answer, "This is the last time I'll see you. Why does it matter?" and walk away.
He still insists that he will come back. And he's buying a VIP. By then, I'm far enough away not to hear him.
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Re: Blow me off already, would you?
but sometimes, yes very very rarely, sometimes they do come back. so to have this attitude is really bad, for you, and for the club. if he was planning on coming back, in that 5% chance, you have now made yourself look like an uber bitch, even if you are not. the majority of our job is to take rejection calmly, smoothly, and know that they aren't rejecting YOU as YOU, scout, but your dance at that particular moment. that attitude will just invade your mindset and won't help you make money at all.
try to remember that a large percent of the job is taking rejection. bad attitude = bad money night.
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Originally Posted by
Scout
After a light hearted introduction and conversation, I go for the kill. Would he like a dance or a VIP?
"No, not today. Next time. When do you work?"
Like you're coming back! Why do you ask when I work? You won't be in.
Yea sometimes they do comeback to do business with you. I once got a guy who was very interested in getting a show with another girl as I was out there too. He didnt stay that day but I was so nice to him inviting him back when he was ready for a show that he came back the next week and was a nice tipper at that.
I also think its another way of a guy turning you down so they dont hurt your feelings they think we have. Its all business to me.
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Okay, ladies. Before anyone posts again, the ones that DO comeback are the ones that WRITE DOWN your schedule and give you their cards. They PROVE that they are for real. This happens, like, once every century.
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i disagree. i have never had anyone write down my schedule. and i have gotten VIPs from guys who i "planted the seed" in on a different night on which he spent no money.
and what if he isn't the business card type? I had this guy from allentown (like an hour from philly) spend nothing on me during an eagles madness home game day and i was pleasant but i spent about 5 minutes total with him, and then told him i had to go work, eventhough i enjoyed his company, but i'd love to see him again. he asked when i worked and i said bye. sure, i thought i'd never see him again, but when he came back, and took me for a 45 minute VIP, I was sure glad I wasn't rude to him.
i mean this with no offense: maybe you only have that happen once in a century because of your attitude. sugar catches more honey... right?
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Chrissy68
i mean this with no offense: maybe you only have that happen once in a century because of your attitude. sugar catches more honey... right?
We have different work styles. Neither is better or worse. Let's leave it at that.
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Um, if that's your attitude, why did you bother posting in the first place? It doesn't seem like you actually want any of our opinions.
just my .02
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^^^^ And in this regard maybe your workstyle isn't working in your favor. Just because a man doesn't take down my number, or offer me his business card does not mean he isnt' coming back.
I have had it happen more times than I can remember. What I usually do is ask them what night they will be free next. Then I tell them whether I will be there or not on that night. And then I kinda say, "ok so it's a date then? And you'll be here at 9pm right?" and for the most part it gets them to commit.
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cinammonkisses
And then I kinda say, "ok so it's a date then? And you'll be here at 9pm right?" and for the most part it gets them to commit.
nice cin, i like that line :)
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Yeah, sometimes they come back. I used to get a lot of blue-collar guys who wouldn't have the money when I asked, but they'd come back and buy dances after they got paid. A lot of these guys wouldn't have bought lapdances ever but I'd occasionally let them see me giving a really hot dance to someone else, and they'd come back with next week's paycheck. It does really help to stay positive (and I have just as hard a time with that as anyone, believe me).
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Come on girls...we cant get mad at them for telling a fib...its not like we are 100% honest with them either...
But I agree, yes it is annoying when a guy acts like he is going to come back in, when we know he prolly isnt going to.
But what does it hurt to go along with it? If you never see him again, no skin off my back...
If you come back and spend hundreds because I was nice to you, woot woot!
You never know who is a potential regular or big spender...
Storytime. Short one.
When I worked in St. Louis there was this story that went around, a house mom told me about it from years ago when she worked at a sister club.
A guy came in, looking like shit, older guy sat at the bar. No one approached him. He asked the bartender if she could have a girl come over because he wanted some conversation...still no one came. None of the girls went to talk to him because he was dressed crappy and didnt look like he would spend any money...he left and went to a club down the road, happened to be another club in the same chain. (PT's-there are alot of them in St. Louis)
Same routine, sat at the bar, asked the bartender to send him a girl to talk with while he was there. This time a girl actually came.
He ended up spending $20k on this bitch just for talking with him when no one else would.
He was Sam Walton, the Wal-mart guy.
Whether this is a stripper-urban legend, who knows...but it serves to makes a valid point. You never know.
Thank you. That is all.
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What is that smiley doing? Thinking about other smileys humping? haha
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Scout
"No, not today. Next time. When do you work?"
Oh, honey, our destiny is now! There may be no next time. Haven't you heard the saying, don't put off until tomorrow what you can do today? Carpe diem, seize the day. Do you string all your girls along this way? Stop being such a tease. I may not get this excited about it again; I want to dance for you now.
I mean, sure, it might not work, but rub it in that he doesn't realize what he's missing. Make him regret his decision if it's no.
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echomadison
He ended up spending $20k on this bitch just for talking with him when no one else would.
He was Sam Walton, the Wal-mart guy.
Whether this is a stripper-urban legend, who knows...but it serves to makes a valid point. You never know.
Regardless of the validity of the overall point to the story, I'm betting it's urban legend. If Sam Walton wouldn't spend money on upscale clothes and continued to drive an old pickup after he made his fortune, I seriously doubt that he dropped 20 large on a stripper. That's contradictory behavior.
-Ev
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echomadison
What is that smiley doing? Thinking about other smileys humping? haha
Hahahahahaha ;D
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evan_essence
Regardless of the validity of the overall point to the story, I'm betting it's urban legend. If Sam Walton wouldn't spend money on upscale clothes and continued to drive an old pickup after he made his fortune, I seriously doubt that he dropped 20 large on a stripper. That's contradictory behavior.
-Ev
But the point isnt whether or not its a true story. The point is not to judge, treat everyone well and you might just get the surprise of your life! You never know who is sitting in the club, willing to spend money. I am not advocating wasting your time bullshitting with someone not spending any money, but be nice and excuse yourrself. If he comes back and spends on you, cool, if not oh well. There is no reason to be over the top rude because someone isnt spending, move on to someone else who is.
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echomadison
What is that smiley doing? Thinking about other smileys humping? haha
LOL;D its dreaming!but it does look like it huh?
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Originally Posted by
echomadison
When I worked in St. Louis there was this story that went around, a house mom told me about it from years ago when she worked at a sister club.
A guy came in, looking like shit, older guy sat at the bar. No one approached him. He asked the bartender if she could have a girl come over because he wanted some conversation...still no one came. None of the girls went to talk to him because he was dressed crappy and didnt look like he would spend any money...he left and went to a club down the road, happened to be another club in the same chain. (PT's-there are alot of them in St. Louis)
Same routine, sat at the bar, asked the bartender to send him a girl to talk with while he was there. This time a girl actually came.
He ended up spending $20k on this bitch just for talking with him when no one else would.
He was Sam Walton, the Wal-mart guy.
Whether this is a stripper-urban legend, who knows...but it serves to makes a valid point.
Legend. That's the stuff people love to tell to make newbies feel guilty for not giving every single guy a 'chance' ::) Sam Walton is the biggest name money 'legend' in that part of the country so using his name makes for a better story. He was known for driving a crappy old truck and wearing cheap clothes, so again it just adds to the story.
If some guy tells me he's not buying now but wants to know when I work so he can come buy later, I'll just tell him when I work and to have fun, gotta get back to work, and make my exit. It takes the same amount of time as if I were to give him a negative response. I don't let it bother me, and on the off chance he really is coming back, I didn't alienate him.
Something like this registers way low on my list of annoying things customers do.
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Scout
Okay, ladies. Before anyone posts again, the ones that DO comeback are the ones that WRITE DOWN your schedule and give you their cards. They PROVE that they are for real. This happens, like, once every century.
Sorry, IMHO, you're wrong. If they aren't coming back, maybe its you?
I may look at a pair of shoes 2-3 times, but more times than not, I'm coming back to buy them! Sometimes, I have to wait until I have the expendable cash.
I've developed plenty of regulars outta "I'm coming back" guys. I take it so well, and I'm so polite, that even if they were lying about their plans to spend on me in the future, when they see me next time they damn near have to buy dances from me.
Once they've had 1, the pringles (or is that Lays) effect is going full speed.
Sometimes they're broke at the moment, sometimes they just don't realize they want me! It harms me none to add some sugar to my pitch. I'm in it for long-term money, not the quick nightly spurts.
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beauty21queen
LOL;D its dreaming!but it does look like it huh?
Yeah it does! I was kinda confused...I think I like it my way better than the real way!
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ok, maybe the walmart guy story is fake...but it does make a valid point.
At the club that I work, we usually get business men as customers which is great. But we also get this mexican guys who don't even speak English and have shitty jobs. They look poor and like they made a big effort just paying for the drink they're having. But I swear, they also spend a lot of money and they too get VIP shows. I'm the one who usually catches them because I'm the only one who speaks spanish there. Besides, all the other girls don't like them because they can't even afford a decent cologne. But it's not like I'm gonna spend the whole night with them, I just go, sit with them for 10 minutes max, and if they really don't get a lap dance then I just say..."Ok, it was nice to meet you then. I'll be around so call me if you change your mind"
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Maybe this is an Atlanta thing. I can't tell you how many times I've heard that and never once have they come back. I've said exactly what CK has said, and I've always been nice about it to the customer, I tell them when I work and can't wait to see them again. This has just been my experience. The customers that I usually deal with are travelers so I don't have regulars like some girls do.
I don't Scout was posting this as saying this is what she says to customers, I think it was more hypothetically speaking, like that's what she feels like saying. She's actually very good with customers, I've worked with her before and she's got the very sweet & innocent thing about her that customers love. I really think she was posting this out of frustration. Come on, it's the holidays right now, everyone's stressed trying to make money right now during this slow season and hearing that probably 100 times last night just frustrated her and this was more of a rant post. That's how I'm interpreting it.
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For what it is worth, I would never ask a dancer when she works if I didn't have at least some interest in coming back to see her. If I really am not interested I will politely say just that.
But getting info about somebody's schedule is not a promise to return. It is just that -- info -- the customer might not come back at all, or might come at a different time, but there is no harm in letting him know when he can see you.
Holiday rants are perfectly understandable. And its lots better to rant here than in the club -- see the string in Customer Convo.
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Even if he doesn't come back, he may recommend you to his friends." yeah, you guys shoudl go to so and so strip club, actually, if you guys go there, check out this one dancer, I met her last time I was there, and she seemed really cool but I didnt have the time/money to spend on her then"
Much better than" guys, dont go to this strip club, the girls there are rude bitches. I met this girl who seemed really cool at first, but when I told her I couldnt spend time with her then, but wanted to come back another day, she got really rude about it."
Its always better to stand out in someones mind as being nice and polite than to stand out for being rude. No reason to burn your bridges with potential customers. You just never know.
On a personal note. I met this kid once at work, it was his 21st birthday. He didnt have a lot of money, and spent all he could on me, which was I think maybe $40 bucks. I treated him nicely, appriciated that he had given me all he could, and he said if he ever had more money one day mabye he could come back and see me.
The next night at work, I was paged to the skybox. It is $500 an hour. I walked in, and much to my surpise was this kid from the night before. He had gotten lucky and won a some money on roulette gambling. And what did he do with his winnings? Came back and specificially asked for me.
You just never know what could happen, and its always better to treat everyone as if they are your best customer, cause one day, they might be.
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echomadison
Yeah it does! I was kinda confused...I think I like it my way better than the real way!
No, it really looks like that. Look VERY closely, you can see smileys on the little dudes.