Re: Question from a newbie
Read Hustle Hut! Many great tips there :)
Re: Question from a newbie
Either find a new club, up your 'mileage' or read hustle hut... I would go for option 1 or 3... dont up your mileage.. please.. ahaha..
Re: Question from a newbie
start to seek out custies who are alone and say they are out because they are bored.
other than reading HH maybe it's your approach... do you get to popping the Q too soon? do you chat them up first, and for how long? eye contact? body lang? go read up and inform us of more of your typical convo witha custy so we can help you.
Re: Question from a newbie
I read a bit from HH, which was helpful in giving me tips, and I spoke to a few clean girls who gave a little advice but heres the basic situation. I'm already at the cleanest club in town, so I really can't pick a better one :-/ As for my approach I usually sit down smiling, say hi, they usually remark about how I look or something to that effect, I thank them, making eye contact as much as possible (without being creepy) Usually then we introduce and I ask where their from (we get alot of out of towners) or I'll ask what they do, somethnig basic to try breaking the ice. Keep trying until I find something I can sound somewhat intelligent about or a common interest. I normally talk with them for about 5-10 minutes depending on how it goes before I pop the question. Some of them I can tell early on that its all their after and I politely leave then knowing its a waste of time. But sometimes they act fine and normal until I ask for a dance, then they say 'what will you do?' or 'oh I kinda need more than just a dance, if you wont do it *insert name here* will' Thats what gets me, I have no idea how to get past it. I bring home about 200 after a 6 hour shift 3-350 after 8 hours. (I live in Hickville...its sloooow) Most girls at work say its all about attitude, make them think you are the best thing they've seen but dont be cocky. So..advice? I really was never taught anything so I'm just hoping I'm on the right track, any thoughts would be greatly appreciated :)
Re: Question from a newbie
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Lisbeth
I normally talk with them for about 5-10 minutes depending on how it goes before I pop the question.
too long, imho. feel it out, if no one else is there then i guess you have to deal, but even when i was at a smaller club with less traffic, i obeyed the 5 minute rule. never stay for longer. i usually use the 3 minute rule now, but sometimes longer if need be.
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Originally Posted by
Lisbeth
But sometimes they act fine and normal until I ask for a dance, then they say 'what will you do?' or 'oh I kinda need more than just a dance, if you wont do it *insert name here* will' Thats what gets me, I have no idea how to get past it.
there are multiple ways to combat the "what will you do", but my top three are:
1. "well i cant really explain it, but i will tell you no one has ever been disappointed." (seductive smile while making eye contact, maybe even touch your hand to your outside (the side he isnt on) breast)
2. "what happens in the dance area, stays in the dance area... and i usually have repeat offenders." (seductive smile making eye contact ditto as above)
3. start with, "well i dont usually give away my secrets, but something about you makes me comfortable." then explain a lil of your dance in a hot and breathy way: "first i will undress, and ill lean my body against yours, feeling your cock with my leg as i gently tease you with my knee.. then ill start to grind my ass into your lap, while playing with my tits.... ill rub my hard nipples all over you etc etc type of stuff..
***BUT as soon as he seems into it, stop, and say, come on let me show you.. and smile. a guaranteed sell if done correctly.***
more than just a dance, you cant deal with. only hope is to say, really? people usually dont need more than MY dance (seductive smile, maybe finger to tooth with mouth slightly open)
good luck.
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Okay thanks, I'll try those approaches, one other question, is the conversation decent? I mean I don't really know how other women start the convo, so I'm just kinda hoping I'm doing okay. I always feel that I'm asking too fast, but I'm likely taking too long, like you said. Again, thanks for all the help!
Re: Question from a newbie
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Originally Posted by
Chrissy68
too long, imho. feel it out, if no one else is there then i guess you have to deal, but even when i was at a smaller club with less traffic, i obeyed the 5 minute rule. never stay for longer. i usually use the 3 minute rule now, but sometimes longer if need be.
there are multiple ways to combat the "what will you do", but my top three are:
1. "well i cant really explain it, but i will tell you no one has ever been disappointed." (seductive smile while making eye contact, maybe even touch your hand to your outside (the side he isnt on) breast)
2. "what happens in the dance area, stays in the dance area... and i usually have repeat offenders." (seductive smile making eye contact ditto as above)
3. start with, "well i dont usually give away my secrets, but something about you makes me comfortable." then explain a lil of your dance in a hot and breathy way: "first i will undress, and ill lean my body against yours, feeling your cock with my leg as i gently tease you with my knee.. then ill start to grind my ass into your lap, while playing with my tits.... ill rub my hard nipples all over you etc etc type of stuff..
***BUT as soon as he seems into it, stop, and say, come on let me show you.. and smile. a guaranteed sell if done correctly.***
more than just a dance, you cant deal with. only hope is to say, really? people usually dont need more than MY dance (seductive smile, maybe finger to tooth with mouth slightly open)
good luck.
wow that's really good advice.. I'd have never thought of saying those things! Thanks!
Re: Question from a newbie
^^ Wow. I've been dancing a year and that's still damn good advice to me.
Re: Question from a newbie
Personally, I try not to look too available. I consider the customer a lot before even opening my mouth. If they are out with a group having fun either at the tip rail or the bar, you usually don't have to talk to them much. I can pretty much rub up against one of them, or run my hand over their shoulders and say "Who's ready to have a bit of private fun?" or "Who's ready for a lap dance?", and almost always someone will bite. Usually the further back they are sitting, away from the stage or darker areas, the more talking I have to do with them. People like that seem to be more shy or private - and often times it's an older man by himself. These are the guys I "take a break" with. I talk to them for a few minutes between my lap dances. I'll go over numerous times and then say "Well, I've got to get back to work", so they consider the time I was chatting with them to be my own time... and that piques their interest. Then when I say something like "I'd really love to dance for you." they are much more receptive to the idea. If I am not snagging dances pretty fast, or talking to someone, I try to stay off the floor! Most men want what they can't have, so I don't want to look too available. I go to the bar regularly to fill my ice water, with gives me an excuse to check out who is there and make eye contact... but I NEVER hang out at the bar unless I'm talking to someone. What ends up happening is that men see me on stage and talking to other men, if they like me a lot they come over and ask me for a dance, or one of their friends comes and snags me for them. It works like a charm! You just need those guys to think that you are busy enough with dances etc that you must be something special.
Another thing you can try is giving a guy special treatment on stage and on your last song ask him if he'd like a private dance.