Anybody else kinda shocked about what goes as far as winning pageants/covers/competitions????? I can't be alone on this one??!!!! If you choose not to respond I guess that's your choice. I just think the quality these days isn't what it used to be.
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Anybody else kinda shocked about what goes as far as winning pageants/covers/competitions????? I can't be alone on this one??!!!! If you choose not to respond I guess that's your choice. I just think the quality these days isn't what it used to be.
rigged?
I agree. Absolutely. It's sad.
Fuck yeah! I have never been to any of the events live, but from the finals Ive seen on tv and video and from some of the title holders Ive worked with (There have been more than a few...) I am pretty shocked at the crapness of some of the contestants. Of course there are some amazing acts too and some people who put alot of effort into their shows. Its always crazy that some of them dont get anywhere.
It's nothing new.. They've ALWAYS been rigged. Although, I do agree that the quality was a little bit better way back when I first started out dancing. Now, it's downright scary (with very few exceptions).
I've always thought the same thing. I thought features were supposed to like stand out big time or something. I've seen some that made me wonder if ANYBODY could just decide one day to start featuring.
We always get fat features, three out of three since I've been at PT's.
^^^^ we don't get features anymore....not in a LONG time. We used to do this thing where every month one of the house dancers was the feature and did a show and sold calenders of her pics on it. I remeber going to a club in Texas where they had a feature and I seriously wanted to laugh. Is there a shortage of real features now?
I'd rather not have them at my club....it takes up our time
Andy--the problem with PT's is that they refuse to book anyone "outside the network" as it were. Notice all of the features have been in Penthouse. PT's is a Penthouse Club. It's like they have their own little circuit.
What puzzles me is that these women all must have been in Ye Olde Penthouse of 1862. Way past prime.
we had some pretty hit looking ones this year.... i wasn't impressed at all....
I hope I never fall into that category of "past it why the hell is she a feature" ... please.... we all know Cally (Ashley Taylor) is fine ;D
If there's a problem that I see with features, its that the market is bloated with them. Every one of them has some tacky porn actress name and 815 or so adult magazine or video credits. I honestly can't distinguish one from another. I saw porn star Gauge a couple of months ago, and while her show was decently entertaining to much of the crowd, I personally didn't see it as anything your run of the mill house gal couldn't do.
Some of course, have some oddity gimmick to distinguish themselves. The thing is that those oddities aren't always attractive oddities. We had Bridget the Midget pass through last month for instance. I'm sure she's talented and all, but thats not why I go and drop $300 at a strip club.
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Hmm...
I agree features arnt really what they should be. A feature should be in shape, have at least 15 different shows so she doesnt repeate shows during her booking, should have a variety of props and entertainment value.
The problem now is features have gotten lazy due to show prices being lowered, lap dancing taking over and many other factors.
A good feature is hard to find these days. From what i've been told the states is even worse then Canada for features. All a girl needs is a couple of porn credits and boom shes a feature.
In Canada you need to work your way up the chain of house dancer, show girl, co feature then feature. You need to do contests and work your damn ass off.
I havnt seen a contest in the US but I know the girl that won Miss Nude Canada this year damn well deserved it. The girl was hot and did one hell of a fuckin show.
I agree the buisness is saturated with features.. some are good, some are ok, some suck and then some are fucking awesome, but I have to say its not just features. I see some girls working as house dancers that should be paid to keep their clothes on.
I still hesitate to call myself a feature.. im stuck on the line between cofeature and feature... I still have room to improve in my show.. it comes with time.
Now I want to know what contests your talking about that girls shouldnt have won...
A girl i know who was really overweight used to feature. She did however pull off a great show. She had the most captivating and unique stage presence...and show . To discredit bigger girls as feature artists because of weight is a little silly IMO (I'm not saying that you're doing this). The way i see it, is it's all about what one can do with what they've got.
Well, sure, but if the girl featuring would be considered too heavy to work at the club then I think it's a little unfair. The last girl would have been ok, but the two before her were really very out of shape and unpretty. None of them had really good shows, and in fact were embarassingly bad dancers to boot. I wondered if any of them had been strippers before they were features. It was as if they had all gone to the same feature school and were taught how to dance there instead of in clubs.
I'm with Cally (Ashley) in that I'm hesitant to call myself a feature. I prefer the term Showgirl personally. I can do themed shows however I do not delude myself nor anyone else that I'm anything THAT special. I am me. I have my own stage persona/personality and some people don't forget me however at the same time...
I'm happy with just being a showgirl and having the ability (and some talent) to put on actual shows like I am doing currently at Players. I'm gradually building up to have a whole slew of shows.
At the moment I'm trying to have all the emergency services covered. I have Cop/Police and Nurse... Firefighter on its way. I then have Dorothy (Wizard of Oz) and Alice (Alice in Wonderland) covered. I have School Girl (and it kinda is my speciality) with three different outfits. Sinner (Adam/Eve). I'm hoping to eventually have two or three different Burlesque shows at the moment I only have the one.
Then I will branch out into Army, Navy, Air Force. Later this year have a Christmas themed show. A beach babe/Hawaiian show. BatGirl.
Yeh... I have a while to go before I feel I have all the shows and costumes I desire..... lol
Heh I have..
Little Bo Peep
Little Red Riding Hood
Little Girl
School Girl
VooDoo Warrior
Black Widow
Cop
SWAT
Genie
Pimp
Pirate
Race Car Driver
Angel
Pussy Cat
Im getting a nurse and phone sex operator...and there are a few more I want to get..
I do fire shows, shower shows, wet and wild shows, tonic water, hot wax, paint, milk shower...
I have a show where I pull a guy on stage blind fold him and make him fuck a blow up sheep..
I LOVE to have fun on stage... if im bored then the customers are bored and thats not what im paid to do...
I would love to seeGCG(Vanessa) shows..shes just so damn hot and has such a great personality.. I can only imagine how hot your shows would be lol.
I only have one magazine credit, three contest titles and im going to have the playboy tv credit...
Im hesitant to call myself a feature because I havnt been doing it long.. i've only been dancing for just over a year.. I need to get more experience.. Im going to be doing more contests this year to build my titles.. and I want to get more magazine work.
Damn. What if I have an off stage show? :( Then you will think less of me. ;)Quote:
I would love to seeGCG(Vanessa) shows..shes just so damn hot and has such a great personality.. I can only imagine how hot your shows would be lol.
I'm human. I'm not always switched on. Yet I have had some great memories to take with me when I am an old crone in re: shows.
I'm interested in hearing more about your tonic water show. I have probably seen it done before just never heard of it described like that...
Now with the milk shows do you use actual milk or do you fake it ? I know a few girls who fake it... they fill a milk bottle up with white water as such is the best way I can explain it.
Also... your Cop and SWAT shows... I'm guessing they are definately two distinct outfits? I pretty much could say my Cop/Police show is my SWAT show as I used the costume from trashy.com ("Special Unit Police Officer") as the inspiration.
My SWAT and cop are two different costumes.. very different looking and different music and different props, I got my cop from another feature who had it made for her. My SWAT was made for me by another girl.
The tonic water is two jugs filled with tonic water and I pour them on my in a pool that I then spin around in.
The milk shower I use 3 litres of milk and 3 litres of water, I use my sump pump shower for it... the shower pic in my signature is a milk shower.
And id actually like to see one of your toy shows.. it sounds hot.. i've never seen one either... it would be cool to see :D
A club in town, not mine, had a feature last week. I had seen her perform at a contest in the fall, loved her show, and I'm very hard to please when it comes to features/entertainers, so I was excited to see her. I was there on Wednesday, first show, it was cute but nothing spectacular. I know that sometimes the first night might not be their best show, usually slow, getting a feeling for the club.
I went back on Thursday night with one of my feature friends and a guy friend. She comes out for her first show. It's slow in the club so the three of us sit at the stage. I line the tip rail with $20 in ones, my girl puts up about $15 and my guy has a big stack on $1 and puts some up. Little miss feature never even came down to our end of the stage to dance for us! She stayed ot the other end trying to get dollar here, a dollar there. She finished her show, starting picking up her money and didn't even collect what we had left there! If i thought I could have gotten away with it I would have taken my money back. The bouncer pointed out that she left the $ and he picked it up.
She came over and sat with us I think only because my guy friend had bought her drinks the night before, she did say thank you to us. We were hanging out drinking and she did two more shows but she never changed her costume from the first show. She did nothing, no promos hand out, didn't set up to take pics, nothing. The house dancers were better.
What pisses me off is the fact that these girls get paid a flat rate to be there and can't be bothered to do anything! WTF? This girl did an amazing show at that contest, now I don't expect her to pull out all the stops on the road but Jesus, at least put SOME effort into it.
As a so called "Feature Maker" I want to agree with the state of the business now days!!
Realistically it sucks for dancers! There really are very few features left!
I was a feature for many years...I had over 60 theme shows, 30 or so props, and too many titles to mention..I travelled all over the world,and have been in over 100 magazines worldwide!
Not to pat my own back....but how many features do you know today that have that???
Do you know why? Feature pay has consistently dropped over the last 5 years. Less clubs book features, there are less shows now per contract week than before. Most features today are housegirls with porn credits.
All too many girls come to me and say...well all I have to do is a porn or two....soooo wrong!!
Some even ask what a feature really is...well here is my breakdown of what a feature is supposed to have...
Beauty, Grace, Showmanship, Entertainment Ability, Beautiful Costumes, Dance Ability, Poise, Stage presence, Props, good physical condition, promotional material for advertising herself, a considerate nature, and pride in herself!
In Canada, I know of only a handful of girls that fit this description...and I am proud to say that I have had a hand in helping them become the GOOD FEATURES they are today! ****AND YES CALLY IS ONE!!
I know there is a feature school in the US...and most girls that I have spoken to who have taken this course say it is a joke...I actually have one of their students in my course now!!
PS.....Most girls do great show at a contest, but never repeat that same performance....but I dont care who she is....if she is being paid to do a show....then DAMN IT..DO A SHOW!! And yes, the customer has a right to demand her to "Pull out all the stops", because they are paying for it!