interrupting girl with another customer?
I stopped in to see my ATF. I got to the club around 630. She was sitting with another customer when I got there. I walked by her on my way to the bathroom, and she stopped me and said she would be over in a few minutes. Time goes by, I sit at her stage set, again I get the I'll be right over. More time passes. Before her next stage turn, she goes to the LD room with the guy. After they're done, it's around 9pm. She calls across the bar that I should join them. I took a pass on that. For several reasons; kind of awkward I guess, I don't care to meet this guy, there was someone sitting on the other side of her so I sit on the other side of the guy she's talking with? where I'm sitting now is the prime seat to watch the basketball game, so I have something to keep my attention rather than being bored.
So, after a few minutes, I go and tell her on the side that I was hoping to do a few dances, and that we would need to get started soon if she wanted to do some.
So then, she does come right over. She said I should have called her that I was coming in, that I don't normally come in on Wed. I said that I had been, but the last 2 Wed. she was scheduled she was a no-call, no-show, so why should I call her.
So anyways, my main question is do you think it is appropriate to say something to a dancer if she is sitting with another customer? I normally wouldn't think of it, but I think 2 hours and 40 minutes is plenty long enough to wait for her. If she was going to be tied up all night, she should have said she would be awhile, rather than over in a few minutes.
Thanks.
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Sometimes it takes a while to get a guy to open his wallet. You have to come to grips with the fact that, being a regular, your ATF sees you as a sure thing. She isn't going to take a chance on having the other guy go for another dancer if she leaves him hanging and goes to dance for you. It's her living, she wants your money and his.
There are positives and negatives to being a regular. Being taken advantage of is sometimes a negative. Find another girl or another club and go get some dances! Strip clubs are about escapism and fun. It took me a long time to figure this out but if I'm not having fun doing what I am doing at a club I do something else.
The only time I ever interrupt a fav when she is with a customer is to say goodnight and thank you.
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It's fine by me - may not be fine by the other guy though.
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that's always been a good thing for me, so long as the customer does it politely. sometimes it makes the custy you're with spend more to keep you there and compete with your attention. other times it makes the custy your sitting with let you know he's only buying X ammount more of dances or that he's leaving soon anyway, etc.
the only time it was ever a problem is when a guy (who thought i was his property) said something ownerish to the custy i was with while i was in the bathroom.
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As another customer, I would say, "No." You did everything in your power to let her know that you were waiting and if that isn't enough to get her over, then it isn't. Such is life and such is the nature of the club.
Look at this way. Reverse the situation. You are sitting with a girl for 2.5 hours in a club. For whatever reason, she has chosen to spend this time with you. It is doubtful that this is accidental. It is either because of something you have provided or something that you have promised to provide. How do you feel when some guy wanders up out of nowhere, says a couple of words to the dancer and takes her away? As much as I am a fan of Rule #4, I gotta think this would bug you, on some level.
Though I flatter myself by thinking I would be cool with it and that I would honor my rule, I might not handle it well if someone interrupted me with a dancer. IMHO, it is for the dancers to decide how to allocate their time and with whom. If she doesn't respect that you came for her and are waiting for her, don't punish the guy she's with. Just move on to greener pastures...
-gen
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I know this may be a little off, but it almost sounds like she was avoiding you. The only reason I say this is because I've done this to certain guys. BUT only to the guys that stopped spending and just wanted me to sit and talk to them for free and for forever. Has it come to a point with the two of you where you're crossing the customer line into the friendship area? Meaning she sits with you and just talks now instead of dancing for you. Because as soon as you wanted a dance she was up and ready to go. Why then didn't she come by you in the first place if she knew you were going to buy dances?? Just my .02 :)
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I have to agree with Kaiarose -- sounds like she was not so busy to talk to you when you mentioned "dances" .... just my 2 cents
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You can always tip the bartender or the waitress to take her a message that you want to buy dances but are going to be leaving soon, sooner if you don't get the dances. That way, she gets the message and you don't have to interrupt her.
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I'm always good for at least a couple hundred worth of dances, couple hours in vip, etc., so it's not like she should think that that would be any different.
It's also a little more complicated because we have been dating OTC. When I stop in and see her at the club, I still spend as a regular customer though.
I think that deep down she is mad from an incident where I got LDs from her friend.
I originally met her thru her friend. I would not consider myself a regular of the other girl beforehand, but had had a few dances with her on occasion. But she was like 'you would probably like my friend, etc.', and obviously, I did.
On 2 occasions, I stopped in to see ATF, but she was a no-call, no-show, didn't call me to say she wouldn't be there, or call the club either. On both instances, after around 4 hours, I broke down and had dances with her friend. In the past, I never had any extras from the friend, but now that I am with the other girl, she has been putting the extras out there, kissing, oral, etc. She is always sending me sexual innuendo emails.
I told her that nothing would have happened with the friend, (as far as getting LDs. She knows nothing of extras), if she had been there, that I came to see her, etc. Whenever the both of them are together, I have never gotten any dances from the friend, or anything.
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^ I think you're overthinking it. The guy she was with must have been spending a lot on her. She may have also been trying to make you jealous.
I'm fine with a guy coming to get me from another custy, but only if we're going straight to vip. Otherwise, it's rude.
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Just curious - how does dating OTC and then coming in and spending like a regular customer work? If u get more than a dance OTC why do u want to pay for dances ITC?
If I had been in your situation and she did all that I would have either spent my money on someone else or left. Then next time she will know she can't leave u waiting for 3 hours.
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My visits are always prearranged. If I arrived a little late and my fav happened to be sitting with another custy killing time waiting for me Id just chill at my table knowing she'd be over shortly after making her excuses. I would never go over there and interrupt. It would be wierd for my fav and disrespectful towards the other customer who had no idea what was up. Now, if she left me waiting for more than a few minutes, Id have to wonder myself what was up. That would only happen one time.
FBR
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I used to have this happen alot - while I was sitting with a dancer, guys would come over & ask her for dances, assuming that I was just a girlfriend chatting with her. In reality, I was there for dances just like they were. Well, I let it go the first few times, but then I started getting pissed off, and began telling the "Interupter Boys" to basically fuck-off and wait their damn turn. >:(
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It would bug me, too, to wait 2.5 hours. I would move on. Indeed, I would probably have left if I hadn't found another dancer. Especially after having been promised that she would be there "in a few minutes." 2.5 hours is "a few hours," not "a few minutes."
Generally dancers I know realize that I've got a short leash. I show up when possible, and usually only for a short time, unless I'm able to come prescheduled. Most of the time, they are already occupied. I come to expect that. And each of them will within a few minutes walk up to me and give me an estimated "time of arrival." They are usually pretty accurate -- within 10 or so minutes. And I appreciate that. Occasionally, they get delayed more. Someone's apparently got more money to spend (or more motivation to spend the money). Typically, they've excused themselves, come to me, explained, and taken their leave. Again, I appreciate and understand that and move on. Sometimes, however, I will need to interrupt. I try to do so politely.
I'm surprised how gracefully most of the dancers I know are able to juggle multiple men -- demanding men at that! The best of them do it cheerfully. It's obvious a bit of a game, and some time it's actually fun (and funny) to watch. On their behalf, it's great to see them making some good cash as result.
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There is a gorgeous dancer at my club who is juggling two high roller customers. I'm talking guys that come in once or twice a week and spend a grand each time. I know both of them casually. One is a tenured professor at a local state university. The other owns a local business that pretty much everyone does business with in his industry. Hes loaded. Neither guy knows about the other :O Yesterday I hit the club and happened to talk to this dancer for a minute. She was freaking out that the university professor was "scheduled" but suddenly the business owner showed up unexpectedly. I saw her disappear into the dressing room for a long time and heard later from Miss D that she was frantically calling the university professor trying to reschedule::) Apparently it worked out cause I didnt see him show up. I was happy for her cause she really is a nice person and is just trying to make a living like the rest of us. And Im sure she banked. But had the professor shown up I think that would have been an "interrupting" session worthy of the daytime soaps!
FBR
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jaizaine
Just curious - how does dating OTC and then coming in and spending like a regular customer work? If u get more than a dance OTC why do u want to pay for dances ITC?
If you really are dating OTC -- and I mean "dating" in the sense that you have a real relationship that is based on mutual emotional, intellectual and physical attraction and not on a monetary transactional basis, that you've been to each other's houses and have been out on dates and have been involved in each other's lives -- then you would still be amazed at what is spent on ITC.
I know, I know, it is counter to the common wisdom that once the relationship moves outside the club, the spending inside the club collapses. I have no doubt that this happens regularly, and that it may even be more common than other experiences. But I am here to tell you that there are other realities where ITC spending rises along with all the other ways in which you may find yourself encouraging and supporting that person -- financially, emotionally, sexually, intellectually and spiritually.
Oddly enough, I've found this to even work with retired dancers. Well, OK, you know, with one incredible one in particular.
This is the cue for Bridgette to come in and tell me that I'm a complete freak of nature. Yet I've seen it happen with other guys with remarkable consistency. Maybe not on the same level of committed insanity, but the trend is unmistakable.
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If I go into the club and the girl I'm there to see is with someone else, I'll usually just wave to her as I walk by and wait for her to approach me. I agree that 2 hours and 40 minutes is a bit excessive. I'd give her about an hour or so than look for another girl. If she's making money with another customer, I don't take it personal. She is at work after all, but this girl sounds a bit rude to me.
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Nada. That guy is (or soon will be) paying money for her services and deserves the same undivided attention she would give you (and if she's giving it away for free, well that's her problem). Aside giving a wave and a wink from afar it would be rude to interupt.
I know that in a lot of smaller clubs dancers are required to do their stage sets. I've often found that to be the best time to say hello to the faves when they are otherwise busy. That not being an option, I'd either wait it out (an hour max), find another gal, or come back some other time.
In any case, this situation exemplifies why you should have a number two (and a three, four and five as well) when your number one isn't available.
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Just wait for her or find another girl for that evening - this is the time for the 2nd or 3rd string gal to really shine. I would never try to interrupt a dancer with a customer. You do not own her. And I do not believe that other custie will appreciate it either.
As a customer, another guy coming up trying to but into my fun pisses me off.
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i'll usually wait about an hour or so if i come in unannounced before moving on to someone else. if they know i'm coming they also know what time i'll be there & i expect them to make thereselves availible shortly after i get to the club. but thre is always exceptions like if a new hi-roller comes in before i get there & is spending a ton of money on them, i'll find someone elso to dance or hit a differnt cub if they are the jealous type like my current atf is
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Someone is pussy whipped. Don't be pussy whipped. You gotta whip that pussy. BANG, BANG, BANG
That's way too long. You guys need to open up the lines of communications. Either let her know you are only waiting X amount of time and if she doesn't come over then you guys will just meet up another time. Myself I would never get on a schedule with a dancer it makes things to messy. What if a "better dancer" starts working next week? How do you end it with her? What if money bags starts coming in as a regular in your time frame? Always keep your options open.
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GuyPOV
That's way too long. You guys need to open up the lines of communications. Either let her know you are only waiting X amount of time and if she doesn't come over then you guys will just meet up another time. Myself I would never get on a schedule with a dancer it makes things to messy. What if a "better dancer" starts working next week? How do you end it with her? What if money bags starts coming in as a regular in your time frame? Always keep your options open.
Excellent points. Yet more reasons why I abandoned the whole ATF thing a few years ago. Potentially too complicated, messy, & drama-ridden.