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Does Anyone Really LIKE Hillary ?
I note that in the latest polls that Hillary trounces Obama in New York - 52 % to 20% in NYC and 49 % to 17% in New York State as a whole. ( Latest NY1 Poll reported in the New York Post 4/10/07 )
Why I don't get is WHY ? What is attractive about Hillary ? Is there anything likeable about her ?
To me she is a total PHONY and every appearance is totally scripted. I think she'll be a lousy President for a host of reasons. Worse than Bill in many ways. So I'd like to hear from Hillary supporters and would like to know what you really see in her.
Is it just because she's a woman and you think it's time we had a female President ?
Is it nostalgia for Bill ?
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I'm ready for a female president but I'm damn sure not voting for her. I wish Christine Todd Whitman would run.
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Originally Posted by
Eric Stoner
To me she is a total PHONY and every appearance is totally scripted.
To you she appears more phony and scripted than all the other phony, scripted candidates, therefore she's less worthy? Is there a candidate you believe to be totally genuine and completely unscripted?
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I think she'll be a lousy President for a host of reasons.
THEY ALL SUCK, it's a game of finding the one you find least distasteful. Since you have a host of reasons I would love to discuss each and every one of them with you, please begin. Take note, since you brought it up, I will be arguing that your choice is no better, not that mine is better.
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Why would I vote for a Hillary/Obama or even Obama/Hillary ticket:
1) They can put together two reasonable sentences in one day. Which is more than what can be said about 3 of the last 4 Republican presidents.
2) Since there are no good candidates, we might as well finally elect a woman or a black man. Who cares which?
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Why I don't get is WHY ? What is attractive about Hillary ?
To New Yorkers, Hilary represents a very high probability that federal tax money collected from taxpayers in other states will be sent to New York in large quantities. In contrast, Obama will be sending those 'pork' tax dollars to Illinois !
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I like Hillary, but I LOVE Obama!!
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Ron Paul for President. I think he is actually genuine.
And his voting record as published by the Washington Post.
Hillary? Hell Fucking No! That raving, socialist, whack job wouldn't get my vote if it saved the Earth from total destruction.
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I like Hillary, but I can't even vote in the US, so my opinion probably doesn't count. My liking for her boils down to many of her political views. Principles come before personalities, for me, though I'm not saying I dislike Hillary's persona, merely that persona is secondary. If you're on the Left, many of her proposed policies sound very attractive (though, naturally, I expect Right wingers to have the opposite reaction).
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I like Hilary's husband :) freaking bad ass prez
And as far as this election, I'm all about Obama.
Although it would be cool to finally put a woman in the white house..
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Eric, I think the fact that there are so many Dems running, even after knowing that Hillary was, reveals a lot. Whatever a person's party leanings or issue stances, what decides many elections (especially ones without incumbents) is personality, voice, and eyes. Those are not HC's best qualities, to put it mildly. If her husband had not been President, and even is she was a Senator on her own, I doubt she would be considered White House material. IMHO, there are far more appealing women candidates in both parties who would have a much easier time getting elected.
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I think she'd have an easier time winning if it was about Billary instead of just Hillary.
I'm for Obama, though.
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where elections are concerned, money talks. The Obama vs Hilary effect on traditionally Democratic big money sources should tell an interesting story.
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ArmySGT.
Ron Paul for President. I think he is actually genuine.
Your right, he's genuine... genuinely way to sarcastic to be taken as a serious contender.
Did you see what I did there? I phrased it like he would. HAHAHA!
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Melonie
To New Yorkers, Hilary represents a very high probability that federal tax money collected from taxpayers in other states will be sent to New York in large quantities. In contrast, Obama will be sending those 'pork' tax dollars to Illinois !
Twer it only true ! Both she and Schumer have done a lousy job of bringing home the bacon. Since both entered the Senate New York still sends out far more tax dollars than it gets back in Federal aid. Inter alia this shows what a farce many Federal programs are and why they ought to be eliminated and replaced with state programs. Why does the $ have to go to D.C. for a night on the town before being sent back ?
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cinammonkisses
I like Hillary, but I LOVE Obama!!
First of all I agree with you about Obama and in reply to another poster I do find him to be far more genuine or "real" than Hillary. But, WHY do you like Hillary ?
What is there about HER, her persona, her demeanor that you find likeable ? It can't be that shrill voice ?
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Originally Posted by
PrettyCurlieQ
I like Hilary's husband :) freaking bad ass prez
And as far as this election, I'm all about Obama.
Although it would be cool to finally put a woman in the white house..
Clinton was a "freakin bad ass prez" ? Where is the evidence he was EVER anything of the sort ? When did he ever demonstrate POLITICAL COURAGE ? That's right. When did he ever take a politically unpopular position or stance just based on PRINCIPLE ? The man governed by polls and focus groups tacking according to whichever way the prevailing political wind was blowing .
he was a "bad ass" ? Al Queda never saw any "bad ass" from Willy after attacking us no less than FIVE (5) times during his eight years without any serious retaliation.
To keep things germane and circle back to Madame DeFarge- where is her political courage ? What IS her Iraq policy ? If someone can figure out a single thing she actually plans to do to get us out; please let me know. How are we going to get National Health Care from Hillary without rationing; long waiting lines and gov't mismanagement ?
Personally, I'm for Obama. I don't like all of his policy positions BUT he's got brains and guts. Somewhat reminiscent of JFK who when not chasing skirts was a fairly good President. He 's a leader who can inspire people. All Hillary seems to inspire is nostalgia for Bill.
That's another thing ! Why do American voters want to be party to some private deal between Bill and Hill ? Where she played the loyal wife
and stood by him and ignored all of his peccadillos. Which she's still doing by the way. It's been reported that her campaign is dreading
the next "bimbo eruption". Bill has apparently been a very "active" ex-President.
That's another thing ! Who the hell wants a President so lacking in self respect that she can't or won't dump an unfaithful bum like Bill ?
If she can't respect herself ; how do you expect her to respect us ?
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I personally don't have too many issues with Hillary herself, I think much of the dislike of her by many stems from a well orchestrated media campaign by the right to distort her record. That being said, I really don't want to see her get the democatic nomination, she's just too divisive a figure and I don't think that's what the country needs right now.
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I love her and I am working on her campaign now.
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Why I don't get is WHY ? What is attractive about Hillary ? Is there anything likeable about her ?
To me she is a total PHONY and every appearance is totally scripted. I think she'll be a lousy President for a host of reasons. Worse than Bill in many ways. So I'd like to hear from Hillary supporters and would like to know what you really see in her.
Is it just because she's a woman and you think it's time we had a female President ?
Is it nostalgia for Bill ?
None of that is important--that's all tabloid-worthy bullshit.
Likeability is not electability. Obama is very charismatic, but untested, underfunded and underorganized. HRC is just getting started and she has a track record of performance and knowledge of the system within DC and the Beltway. Sure, Obama raised more money in the first quarter, but they were from small donors rather than institutional donors. HRC can command more money from bigger political concerns, including businesses. You don't have to like her to think that she's someone who can be dealt with and has the ability to get things done.
HRC is a lot of things; stupid isn't one of them.
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I LOVE BILL AND HILLARY AND EVEN CHELSEA. SHE CAN AT LEAST BEHAVE HERSELF UNLIKE THE BUSH TWINS. (JENNS BEING HIV+ AND WRITING A BOOK ABOUT IT.
no more republicans please or i really will leave this country for good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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You know Sophie.... she only reads the titles and not what's inside. That includes books.
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lilithmorrigan
You know Sophie.... she only reads the titles and not what's inside. That includes books.
Oh snap!
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Casual Observer
. Sure, Obama raised more money in the first quarter, but they were from small donors rather than institutional donors.
Which is exactly what Obama talked about on David Letterman. He wanted donations from the american people. That says alot to me!
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She has HIV and that's what her DAD gets for putting young people in a war. Karma is a B$$$tch
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sophiemarie
She has HIV and that's what her DAD gets for putting young people in a war. Karma is a B$$$tch
You are the most ignorant person I have ever come across!
She does NOT have HIV! She wrote a BOOK about it.
And what you just said about karma is a total crock of shit. Her dad is not putting young people in a war. There is no draft. When you sign up for the military, that's the chance you take.
Blame him for the war all you want, but nobody is making young people join the armed forces and you are disrespecting those who ARE over there fighting for what they believe in, regardless of our agreement or disagreement.
You just spit in the faces of those who have lost loved ones. You think that's karma? You tell me what in the hell could I have EVER done that is so bad that my daughter was killed in a car accident! Or what a 17 year old could have done to deserve her life to be cut off so soon.
Karma is a cosmic reaction to an act committed by a person; it's nature based directly upon the intent (good or evil).
Every time you open your mouth, you spurt out the most inane and hurtful bullshit. You should be examining your own karma, SophieMarie. Because I'll bet your misfortune is in direct proportion to the disrespect you show others.