How would you reply to this customer email?
So my wife (the dancer, not me ;) ) has been giving out her email address to a few customers (although it may become fewer after this! :D ). She gave it to this guy who came in Wednesday. He had flown in from out of town, for work, and just for a day. When he got home he sent a "Hey, just adding you to my contacts" type message, to which she replied a "nice to meet you, visit me when you come back to town" reply, and THEN he sends this:
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Do you ever go to work without your roommate? It would be nice if we could hang out after your shift, if you're interested that is.
So... this guy is from another STATE, not even in town, and he wants to ... hang out? Huh? :D
She wants to know what you ladies would reply.
And do you even give out your email addresses? I read a bunch on not giving out phone numbers, but a search came back with nothing much for email etiquette.
P.S. Technically, I'm her "roommate" (I drive her in and pick her up every night) and she tells the customers so she has an excuse to not go out with them. She's getting a lot of "call your roommate and tell him I'll bring you home later" stuff, though. Any thoughts on that are also welcome! ;D
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"Oh, you know I'd love to, but I'm just so exhausted after work. I go right home and crash out."
If they persist like what about in the daytime, etc., she can say she goes to school so she's in classes, doing homework, or studying all day. Between school, work, and sleep, she's got absolutely no time for a social life, poor gal. That's why she works at the club, it's the only place she gets to have any FUN! (Now let's go back to the VIP and have some fun!)
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Yea... that's gonna happen... always. LOL! :)
I would just respond with something like... "No, I need him to drive because... and I'm usually so tired after work that I wouldn't be any fun... be sure to let me know when you're back in town... *smilie faces and shit*"
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Yekhefah I think that's a good one. It does kind of leave the window open for a possibility (I sense) so that may keep him considering returning. She actually DOES have a day job, so in reality ITC really IS about the only time she has fun (except for weekends, which are all mine ;D )
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Bella21
"No, I need him to drive because...
The problem she's had with this one is guys offering to drive her home or give her a massage. Don't you think? They're always trying to get me out of the picture, heh!
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Bella21
*smilie faces and shit*"
:D :D You ladies crack me up!
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They'll always be trying to get you out of the picture, that's just what happens.
Really, I think this type of email is pretty tame, but a good way to try and get a regular.
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Customer fantasy #1: I can date a dancer.
Classic guy mentality - this dancer has given me her phone number/e-mail address; she must want to meet me OTC.
As the dancers have posted in this thread - being asked for your phone number and being told it'll be great if you hang out together after work is a pretty common occurence. Equally common is for the dancer to try and use it as a lever to get dances, etc.
Cheer up - it won't be long before your wife gets her first marriage proposal from someone she's only ever met ITC: "Marry me and I'll take you away from all this and give you a better life".
This e-mail - it is a yahoo or hot mail one? Having anything in the e-mail address that can identify your wife is not a good idea. [email protected] can be a pretty good clue as to your wife's name.
Again, being offered lifts home is pretty common - every dancer of course wants a lift home from a perfect stranger who's just paid $$$'s to leer at her.
I've been friends outside of work with several dancers for a number of years and pick them up from work at intervals. They'll point me out to wanna-be romeo's as their bf, driver, flatmate, PL, or whatever suits the need of the moment. Anything to discourage the guy from offering a lift home again while leaving the way open to extract $$$'s.
Welcome to the club - in the end you'll just come to regard it as background noise.
Phil.
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Phil-W
Cheer up - it won't be long before your wife gets her first marriage proposal from someone she's only ever met ITC: "Marry me and I'll take you away from all this and give you a better life".
I can't wait! :D Someone posted here something like "So, wait, you tipped me a DOLLAR and now suddenly you have enough money to take me away from this all? Yeah, RIGHT!" Hilarious, really!
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Phil-W
This e-mail - it is a yahoo or hot mail one? Having anything in the e-mail address that can identify your wife is not a good idea.
[email protected] can be a pretty good clue as to your wife's name.
Totally fake hotmail that uses her stage name. And we got her a prepaid cell phone with her stage name and used the club address for the "home" address. I'm an IT guy, and have friends with connections, so I know how crazy easy it is to find people from just an email, phone, or name and city.
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Phil-W
They'll point me out to wanna-be romeo's as their bf, driver, flatmate, PL, or whatever suits the need of the moment. Anything to discourage the guy from offering a lift home again while leaving the way open to extract $$$'s.
Now, wait, how does that work?
We're married but she calls me her roommate. If she said I was her husband/bf wouldn't that scare off potential customers? (Personally, I would *like* people to know who I am, but this is a business and we're here to make some profits.) Can you elaborate?
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Phil-W
Welcome to the club - in the end you'll just come to regard it as background noise.
Keep telling me that! :)
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I would rather give a customer my email than my phone number. Phil w has a very good point about not having personal info in address. I try to be sweet when I turn down otc activities but firm. it gets easier with practice.
for the most part emails seem much easier for me to control and I dont have customers calling me at inconvenient times.
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Yeah, we saw a post that said to tell the custy "For each day you visit me, I'll give you another digit of my phone number, starting with the area code." She loved that!
So far she's only given the number out to some guys who were spending a good amount on her.
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Poco
Now, wait, how does that work?
We're married but she calls me her roommate. If she said I was her husband/bf wouldn't that scare off potential customers? (Personally, I would *like* people to know who I am, but this is a business and we're here to make some profits.) Can you elaborate?
If I go to pick up a dancer I know, I try and stay in the background as much as possible. I've never been fussed about how a dancer describes me inside the venue - I know it's all SS to suit her needs of the moment.
Generally I'll be described as just the guy who drives her, (not even a friend of suchlike) because that ruins the illusion for many guys that they can get further with the dancer.
I'll be pointed out as a PL if the dancer thinks she can get serious $$$'s out of someone and they've sussed the dancer and I know each other well.
I'll be pointed out as a friend (or rarely even bf) if the guy is being an anal retentive, and the dancer want's reasons to say she's not interested in a lift home etc. This is relatively rare as most guys like to think the dancer is single and being introduced as a bf, etc does tend to be bad for business.
With me the dancers are just friends, but I know what you mean about wanting to be introduced - it can be a strange feeling seeing someone you really like flirting like mad with total strangers while you've become part of the furniture.
In the end you just get used to it and ignore it - it's part of her job.
My attitude (and theirs) is how we behave towards each other outside of work is the important thing and lets have a giggle about the SS they dispense while at work.
Phil.
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I just tell the custy that I have to go home and let my dogs out for a pee and feed my cats.
It sounds lame, but its the truth and they never argue about it.
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So, um, Phil, what's SS and PL? :)
I like the last line - how we are outside of work is what counts. That's very ... what's the word ... anyway, I'm just sitting here nodding my head. Thanks!
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SS = stripper shit (I'm pretty sure, someone correct me if I'm wrong)
PL = pathetic loser
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with an email like that, it's definitely time for SS. "oh gosh you're so much fun to hang out with but i am so tired after work and have to get up the next morning for my day job/school. i appreciate you understanding and respecting that we have to hang in the club, for now."
the for now insinuates that there will be out of work experiences but there never has to be.
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^ For now...very good, very good.
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Poco,
SS is definitely Stripper Shit.
It's more politely called their hustle.
In effect it's how they behave at work to meet the expectations of their customers.
Most guys who go into a strip venue never realise it's not for real - and why should they? The dancers won't enlighten them, very few guys ever use places like this site, and even fewer guys will end up knowing a dancer outside of work.
Accordingly, customers go in with a set of expectations including: the dancers get a kick out of what they do, the dancer likes them personally and the dancer might agree to meet them outside the club. SS is basically persuading the average customer this is the case so they'll buy dances in the hopes of getting that elusive (very, very elusive) phone number.
I've always found it rather amusing to watch it at work. As I mentioned, I'm friendly outside of work with several dancers. A good number more know of the friendships, and thus regard me more as a person to relax with than a potental customer if I turn up to pick up a dancer. Accordingly I inhabit what I laughingly call my bubble of reality in the midst of fantasy land.
Dancers come over, chat for 10 minutes about anything other than work to get a bit of a break, then go back to enticing customers into dances. It's like a switch being thrown as they swap in and out of dancer mode. "Here's Phil, I'll chat to him for 10 minutes about how the kids are doing at school". "Is that the time - must get back to work". "Hello, what's your name? John, that's nice. I'd really like to dance for you, John".
My advice is just to sit back and be amused by it. It's a game where most of the dancers know the rules of reality and most of the customers don't.
Phil.
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It's best to use the email contact as ONLY a way to communicate where and when she'll be working, and only to her regulars. Any other usage make it too easy to hope for an OTC experience.