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How do you approach large groups of people?
At my club we have a lot of groups coming in for bucks parties etc. I always find i never approach them because i don't know how. Im always thinking whose the host? what if they just ignore me? what if I run out of conversation and they all end up staring at me like im an idiot. Can you gurls please tell me what you do when theres large groups cause its got me confused.:-\
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Re: How do you approach large groups of people?
Oooh, I could use some advice on this too. They always seem to be conversing, so I feel like if I approach them, I'd be interrupting something/being rude.
If a guy in a group tip me on stage I'll hustle him for dances afterwards, but aside from that, what are good ice breakers for a crowd?
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I never approach the whole crowd. I just come up to one guy in the group, he's my target. After I dance for him I wait a couple songs then go back to someone sitting close to him, he probably said it was a good dance and they get one too. Just keep this going.
This works for me ( I read it in here a while back.) Give it a shot.
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I do this as well^^^ Also, while I focus my efforts on the target I've already introduced myself to the guys closest to him. They usually turn around and smile when you sit down. I introduce myself, have light conversation, but maintain who my target is and he therefore gets my efforts. If other guys work their way into heavy conversation and both seem interested I usually grin and say 'Okay, which one of you is taking me back first?' It might not be the best option, but if you have doubts that you chose the right target, it eliminates asking each one individually. *shrugs* It usually works for me, hope it helps.
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As far as approaching, there's nothing wrong with walking up to anyone (preferably the one who's looking you over the most), asking what the occasion is, who's the guest of honor, and who's the best man/party planner. Or as you walk by, just say "hi, guys!" and usually there's one guy who's going to say, "Well, hello there!" and ask you to sit, tell them about the club, etc.
Then you just start dancing away - dance for one, ask who's next, etc. This works with small groups, too -- even two or three guys. Once you've danced for one of them, always, always, always ask for the next dance at the same table -- "That was fun, Bob!" --- Bob nods and grins --- "So, I'm ready for you now!/It's your turn now!/Who's ready for fun?" -- because you will sell to other guys at the same table far more frequently than not.
>>unless, of course, you have picked out the big spender of the group and he likes you. In that case stick with him. But that is I think obvious.
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^^ sums it up! Also when you walk up to a group never ask 'anyone want a dance?' It makes it easier for them to all say NO. That's why the target works so well, cause you are giving him your full attention, it's going to be harder for him to say no.
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I just walk up and say something to the effect of "wow...is it someones birthdayor something..what are you all doing here?"" are y'all drunk yet?? Cme on drink up..the drunker you get the prettier we get"" You gus didnt come here to stare at each other right?lets get this party started..I hate having my clothes on!!" Silly lines...but they always work.
In large groups too Ive found it almost always works to offend one guy. Not too bad...but wait until one(inevitably there will be one) who does or says something stupid. Make fun of him...not really insulting..just playful ribbing. For some reason guys LOVE busting on each other and they love it even more when a pretty girl does it. I've made a crapload of money doing this....the guy gets dances or tips you to "make up" for whatever he did or said...the friends spend money because they think you are cool for playing their game...I cant say I understand it...but it works 95% of the time(and the times it didnt work..the guys were really boring and didnt spend money on anyone anyway)
I found big groups are generally easier to work..since there are more people the conversation never lags...and the guys are usually in a party state of mind so less of a chance you'll get the guy who wants a girlfriend type..
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Don't feel intimidated by large groups! Remember, you are a hot babe and they WANT you to approach them! ;D
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Wow, what great ideas! Thanks so much for sharing these tips : ).
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Usually in a large group, there's one guy paying for the most. Espicially if its a bachelor party. So I pick one guy, talk to him, and ask him, so who's takin care of the bachelor tonight. He will say, that guy sittin there in the white shirt is mr. moneybags. Off I go to talk to the guy with the money.
Or..you can always ask the waitress who has the bartab. Talk to him.
A trick I do with large parties is the "pay it foward" I get 1 guy to buy his buddy a dance. I tell him that all good deeds are repaid, and if buys his friend a dance, it wil come back around to him. then I tell the guy gettign the dance, well, since your friend bought you a dance, its only right that you keep the good fortune going. How bout buying a dance for your other friend? He does...and I say the same thing again. Your buddies keep passin me along, its onyl right you keep it going. How bout your buy this guy a dance?
Finally, I get to the last guy. I tell him all his friends him bough a dance for the next guy, and the one who started it all now needs repaid. Why don't you buy him 2 dances, since he started all the fun?
If its a small group, maybe 3 or 4 guys, i will introduce myself to everyone, make small talk with them all, and say, well, its gettin hot in here. I gotta get naked, right now! Who's first to get me naked?
I walk up to a group of guys and just start going duck, duck, duck, GOOSE! YOUR the lucky winner of a lapdance from the hottest blonde in here.
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Thanks for all your fantastic suggestions :) maybe i wont be so frightened approaching groups now :P
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I try to grab a friend or two or three so his friends are also distracted.
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everything i was gonna say has pretty much been said but i'll second it! :P ask "which one of you guys is going to get the first dance from me?" and then after you get one, make sure he recommends you to his friends.
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I walk up and basically incorporate myself into whatever they're doing. (Unless there's allready a ton of girls with them, then it's better just to pick one dude and go for it) I find out what the occassion is, and then address the whole group with, "So who wants to buy the bachelor/birthday boy/whomever a dance?" Generally someone will pipe up that they will.
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another thing i tell them is that it isnt fair for the bachelor/bday boy/whatever to have all the fun, so they should each get their own dance, too! i had a guy from a bachelor party stay in vip with me when his friends left.
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Re: How do you approach large groups of people?
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Originally Posted by
Kaylinn
Usually in a large group, there's one guy paying for the most. Espicially if its a bachelor party. So I pick one guy, talk to him, and ask him, so who's takin care of the bachelor tonight. He will say, that guy sittin there in the white shirt is mr. moneybags. Off I go to talk to the guy with the money.
I've been in a LOT of bachelor parties...a LOT. I can say from experience that this is probably the case in less than 10% of them. From a dancer's perspective though, it's easy to see why it wouldn't be though. In the vast majority of them I've been in it's usually one person (the Best Man) who is generally in charge of things but he is not the one forking over the bill for all of it...he usually goes to the group and has them chip in for whatever activity they are doing. As a result, the Best Man is almost never the source of the money but he is usually the funnel for the money which is a huge difference.
Understanding that, my advice would be to always aproach the group as a group. During that process, figure out who is the bachelor but it's not always so important to know who the Best Man is knowing that the money will be coming in the form of small amounts from all the guys, not just the one Best Man. So talk to the group as a group. Ask them where THEY are from, how much fun THEY are having all while batting your eyes at the bachelor. When it's time to close the deal, sell the group on chipping in money for the bachelor and whisk him off to the VIP room for an hour. If they throw in $50 then tell them for the ultimate experience for their friend to have the VIP room for $100 and so on. So get the group to buy for him and you'll have a lot of luck. Of course, when you return, you already have rapport with the entire group so be sure to sell them also by using an Assumptive Sell like, "You can see by the look on Steve's face here he just had a blast...which one of you wants the next dance?"
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It's been my experience that there is one guy in charge. Weather he is the one forking out the money, or just the one coordinating it...he is still the one in control.
Now why would I waste my time trying to sell the entire group, when all they will do is look at the man in charge, because he is the decision maker. Wouldnt it be smarter, and more time friendly, to just go straight to the decision maker?
If the decision maker in the group says, yeah, VIP is a great idea, let me talk to the rest of the guys and get the money...sicne the decision maker brought it up, he will sell the rest of the guys much easier than me trying to coordinate 10 different men to chip in.
I ALWAYS go for the decision maker/big spender in the group. Much easier to sell one guy and have him sell his friends than me trying to sell each individual person, then coordinate them all to chip in.
Anyway..that's what works for me. Maybe it would be easier for someone else to sell the entire group.
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Someone mentioned it previously, but from a customers standpoint I think your best bet is to pick one of them. I think a good analogy would be a lioness going after stragglers in the herd. Usually in a big group there will be one or two on the outside looking around, that's the one you should go for. Alternatively you could team up with a couple of other dancers and attack the group head on.
Last weekend I was with a group and one dancer came up and sat next to me (I was the one on the outside of the group). My attention immediately went from the guys to her and the rest is history.
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Fantastic suggestions Im gonna try some out tonight :) Yes I have to work Anzac Day Night. Uggg.
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"Sup doooods! Break this shit up! Break up this dude ranch!! I always see you guys come in in packs, what's the deal, come find some pretty ladies to talk to!"
I SWEAR to god it works.
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i rarely appraoch groups. i let them approach me. i would rather sit with a lonely man that spends, than with a group looking for someone to fuck thier bud.
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Im so proud of myself. Last night i combat-ed the approaching large groups of people. They were all sitting around the stage though not at tables still trying to come up with a plan for that. But basically i walked up right between them and sat right in the middle of everyone. (there was noone on stage btw) and eveyne just shut up and started paying attention to me. I didnt think it would work but. woot!. I ended up getting two lapdances out of the group using these similar lines.
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cameron_keys: I just walk up and say something to the effect of "wow...is it someones birthdayor something..what are you all doing here?"" are y'all drunk yet?? Cme on drink up..the drunker you get the prettier we get"" You gus didnt come here to stare at each other right?lets get this party started..I hate having my clothes on!!" Silly lines...but they always work
and then i ended up getting both me and the girl on stage like 60 each in tips. Turns out Im not as big of a pussy as i thought.
P.s still cant approach tables. lol:-[
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DancerWealth
Understanding that, my advice would be to always aproach the group as a group.
Selling an entire group takes more finesse than it's worth. It feels like a school presentation. You are more vulnerable. If one rejects you, they all reject you. It's much easier and usually more profitable to divide and conquer. Pick one, sell him, let other dancers pick off the rest, and head to the VIP as a group. If other dancers aren't there and you end up doing single dances, the other guys will see you and want you. How could they not? Work the table, dance after dance.
For bachelor parties, the bachelor needs to like you the most and the man-in-charge need to approve of you. Once you have that, tell the man-in-charge that the bachelor wants a VIP. The group will pitch in for the cost. There you go.
Also, keep in mind that bachelor parties are a man's excuse to go to a strip club and spend tons of money without getting shit from his wife. If you don't end up with the bachelor, the other guys are just as good, if not better.
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^ agreed.
DW, while that works in the normal sales world, in the stripping world, that does NOT work. you approach ONE custy at a time. anymore and the one custy will feel like he's being sold and will NOT buy what you are selling, a dance/vip/time with you. you have to approach the one that's looking at you, and make sure he wants to spend time with you.
and with bachelor parties, if the bachelor is off with someone else, i use this line that works really well: "oh good, im glad he's taken care of, because i came over here to play with you, not him!"
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I usually pick one guy in the group and pay some attention to him. If he says no to a dance, what do you do? Leave the table or hustle another guy at the table? I feel really lame leaving an entire table but it's kind of hard to hustle guys after their buddy has just rejected you.