Another example of ignorance
a acquaintance of mine emailed this to me:
Subject: Muslims in America
Can a devout Muslim be an American patriot and a loyal citizen? Consider this:
Theologically, no. Because his allegiance is to Allah.
Sculpturally, no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam and the Quran (Koran).
Geographically, no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.
Socially, no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.
Politically, no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan.
Domestically, no, because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him
(Quran 4:34).
Religiously, no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)
Intellectually, no, Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically, no, Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression.
Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually, no, Because when we declare "one nation under God," the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as our heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names.
Therefore after much study and deliberation.... perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both good Muslims and good Americans. Call it what you wish... it's still the truth. If you find yourself intellectually in agreement with the above, perhaps you will share this with your friends. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country.
Pass it on. The war is bigger than we know.
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Yepp. We're right, they're evil, let's round em all up and put them in camps.
Oy.
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Spiritually, no, Because when we declare "one nation under God," the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as our heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names.
Um...I can think of MANY instances in the Bible where the Christian God is portrayed as angry and vengeful, so maybe they should work on the rhetoric of this one a bit more. I was raised in a strong Christian family, but one of the things that I believe for myself is that God wasn't always love (like they always make a point to say).
The rest of it is just stupid...seriously.
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Mail this back to your friend:
-Ev
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What the FUCK... because obviously DEM MUSLIMS cannot be decent or good people and Americans MUST be Christians. WTF?!
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It's so sad to me that some people cannot see the world for what it is.
Of course there are some Muslims who are extremists and they do horrible things. In every religion, in every nation, there are bad people. When someone judges an entire population on the actions of a minority, they are missing out on the big picture.
I wish that people could open their eyes and realize how big the world is. We may not all be able to understand all the faiths, but we can all understand that they exist, THE END.
There are so many people who can only see what is in their own heads, what is in their own lives, and I think America is home to many of these closed-minded people.
There are many truths to the e-mail that was posted above. But what of the Christians in America? What about the part of the Bible that says to follow the laws of your nation? So Christians who get speeding tickets etc are also guilty of furthering this war and the problems in this world??
Grrrr... closed-mindedness is the most frustrating thing to me!!
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how dumb.
just because you are a diff religon, doesnt mean u cant be friends with sum1 who beileves in something else, you know?
and i think allah means god in their language...right?
anyways this is stupid - tottaly sterotypical.
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Windy
...and i think allah means god in their language....
Yes ma'am. In fact, Christians, Jews and Muslims are from the same blood line, heirs of Abraham.
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Judaism, Christianity and Islam are known as "Abrahamic religions". The firstborn son of Abraham, Ishmael, Muslims consider Father of the Arabs. Abraham's second son Isaac is called Father of the Hebrews. In the Jewish tradition Abraham is called Avraham Avinu or "Abraham, our Father". For Muslims, he is a prophet of Islam and the ancestor of Muhammad through Ishmael.
Islam affirms that Moses (Musa) was given a revelation, the Torah, which Muslims call Tawrat in Arabic, and believed to be the word of God (Allah). However, they also believe that this original revelation was modified over time by Jewish (and Christian) scribes and preachers. According to Islamic belief, the present Jewish scriptures were no longer the original divine revelations given to Moses. Muslims believe the Qur'an is the final revelation from God and a completion of the previous revelations.
quoted from .
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Deni
Um...I can think of MANY instances in the Bible where the Christian God is portrayed as angry and vengeful
Oh yes, I've read that many of times.
Below, I love this section on that website!
Religiously, Yes - Because the Quran states in verse 2:256 very clearly that there is no compulsion in religion. In fact what was said in your gathering is a fabrication. Here is the verse that you can share with the people at the gathering.
There should be no compulsion in religion. Distinct has now become the right way from the way of error; Hence, He who rejects the power of evil and believes in God, has indeed taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way; For God is all hearing and all knowing. (2:256)
P.S. Last night before I left work for the evening I ran into a muslim girl in the club. She sells dancer costumes. It was sort of weird for me, but very refreshing to say the least.
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Lady Jade
And all redheads are witches too...
::) ::) ::)
omgz. that explains sooooo much in my life!
"If she ... weighs the same as a duck ... she's made of wood."
"And therefore?"
"A witch! ... A duck! A duck! Fetch a duck."
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That is so terrible! i cant imagine what a sheltered life someone must have lead to have written that! it such a load of shit...
THE DUCK!...WHERE'S THE DUCK????!!!! hee hee
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If you take a walk through the heavily Middle Eastern immigrant-populated areas of California, you'll see some Muslims who: eat pork, drink like fishes, sleep around like there's no tommorrow & even do and sell illegal drugs. Some Muslims in America are no different than the some of the "most unclean" people they live among here.
(That's a small group, the rest are just normal and law-abiding. They ignore my tacky pocha style, I ignore the headscarves and prayers to Mecca. That's what makes America great.)
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madmaxine
If you take a walk through the heavily Middle Eastern immigrant-populated areas of California, you'll see some Muslims who: eat pork, drink like fishes, sleep around like there's no tommorrow & even do and sell illegal drugs. Some Muslims in America are no different than the some of the "most unclean" people they live among here.
that's a really good point. i grew in a mostly suburban jewish neighborhood but i had absolutely no idea what differentiated jews from anyone else other than my friends had to go to jewish school after regular school.
it wasn't until i went to college that i realized, "hey, some jews really observe/practice being kosher?" :O
my slobby friends eat lobster, enjoy cheeseburgers, shrimp, shellfish, bacon, etc. kosher? for them it means going to temple twice a year and marrying a jewish girl...eventually. ;D
it's the wacko militant jews you gotta look out for! :D
actually, there are some! i hear weird stories from my clients and friends when they come back from israel.
i figure, people are people. some are nice and some aren't so nice.
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Cultural practices are not strictly synonymous with religious practices anywhere you go. Moreover, Islam is not a monolith.
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Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Um, Turkey is pretty Islamic culturally, and quite secular in government (at least for a little while longer...). That said, the most vocal elements in Islam are the most deceitfully desirous of democracy; what better way to create theocracies than by the will of the electorate (even if only a plurality)?
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^^ Tyranny of the majority being what it is.
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Im so over this whole islam/muslem debate. Its tired and done and boring.
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The problem with this whole discussion is that if you substituted "christian" for "muslem", most of the the statements would still be true or would be easily translated into an equivalent christian statement. For example, there are christian sects that cannot "swear on a bible" in court because swearing is against their religion.
A person can be a good citizen reguardless of thier religion. Anything else leads to the moral outrage that the US committed in WW II when we put US citizens who were Japanesse decendants into concentration camps. Curiously, we did not do the same for Germans or Italians. Or worse, another holocost.
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What fucking ignorant retards!!!! lol But hey, that IS how many Americans think (about Muslims)
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Lady Jade
Yep...
And all redheads are witches too...
::) ::) ::)
Damn it! You caught me! *runs off to blight some cattle*
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4 wives? Wow, maybe I should convert to Islam!
JK! lol But, No i don't agree with the OP. I know muslim ppl in America, and some of them have pre-martial sex, eat bacon and party their ass off..lol.
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$$$magnet
a acquaintance of mine emailed this to me:
Subject: Christians in America
Can a devout Christian be an American patriot and a loyal citizen? Consider this:
Theologically, no. Because his allegiance is to God.
Physically, no. Because his allegiance is to the Church and the Bible.
Geographically, no. Because his allegiance is to Heaven, to which he turns in prayer.
Socially, no. Because his allegiance to Christianity forbids him to make friends with Atheists or Non-believers.
Politically, no. Because he must submit to the preacher/priest (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of modern day society, the great Satan.
Domestically, no, because he is instructed to marry and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him <<honor and obey>>
Religiously, no. Because no other religion is accepted by his God except Christianity
Intellectually, no, Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on manmade principles and he believes the man to be corrupt.
Philosophically, no, Because in Christianity, God and the Bible do not allow freedom of religion and expression.
Democracy and Christianity cannot co-exist. The Bible forbids other religions, and that limits freedom of religion in democratic countries.
Spiritually, no, Because when we declare "one nation under God," the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as our heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names.
^^lame, Allah is not referred to by sex (m/f, father/mother) and that = not loving and kind??? Besides "one nation under God" doesn't say "father" either, weird logic
Therefore after much study and deliberation.... perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL CHRISTIANS in this country. They obviously cannot be both good Christians and good Americans. Call it what you wish... it's still the truth. If you find yourself intellectually in agreement with the above, perhaps you will share this with your friends. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country.
Pass it on. The war is bigger than we know.
Okay I made some nice edits, which I underlined. Hopefully you can find the humor in this and I have shown that something so illogically written can be applied to anyone's philosophy.
*sigh*::)