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Yeah, I've noticed the change just in the 1 1/2 years I've been working here. I still get guys from other cities who give me $20 a song, but then some silly little girl will tell them it's only $10. It is really hard to make GREAT money here now. You can still do okay money wise, but I'm not going to hustle that hard for just okay money. I'd rather just settle for less b/c I really don't care that much, esp where I am now in life. And while the level of contact is low overall, it's still too much for $10 a song esp with what girls are doing now. I see more touching and longer/harder grinding now than I ever have here and for $10 a song!
I'd be all for catching up with the rest of the country price wise. Change is good!!
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Yeah, when I came here 3.5 years ago, it was all good. Now, not so much. We need to do something about it if we want to keep our earnings at decent levels.
We need to get our girls on the same page. It pisses me off to NO END when some stupid girl tells a guy who's paying $20/song OF HIS OWN VOLITION that it's $10. He's ruined from then on. Stupid, stupid girls.
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Re: That bitch is charging too much for dances!! The NERVE!!!
Since this is totally appropriate to this thread...
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Bridgette
Scroll down and pick your dates - to get a calculation of how the dollar value has decreased, put the CURRENT date in the top box and the PAST date in the bottom box.
I ran it for 1995 - 2007 since I started dancing in 1995. Value of the dollar has DECREASED 25.75% due to inflation, which means since I was dancing for $20/song back then and now dance for $10/song, I'm getting a relative 46% per dance as compared to what I got 12 years ago. Not to mention tipping and all that is done way less than it was back then. That is just sickening.
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Bridgette
If I were dancing for $20/song now, that would equate to $14.85 in 1995 dollars, or obviously 74.25% of what I got per song 12 years ago.
$10/song equates to about $7.42 in 1995 dollars
Aaaaaaand if we were gonna adjust the price of our dances in Phoenix for inflation: Let's say we take 5 years ago, since pretty much all clubs in town were charging $10 then. $10 now was about $8.62 in January 2002. A $10 dance then, adjusted for inflation, SHOULD be about $11.38 now. But we have to consider that guys tipped alot better a few years ago too, so I say we just round it up to $15 - a nice compromise between $10 and $20 - and call it a day ;D
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I still think y'all deserve at least $20 PLUS tips. Not that this applies to all dancers, but you have to take into account that you have been dancing since '95 and therefore you possess a valuable skill. You are an experienced saleswoman and your "salary" should reflect your expertise.
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i have to say i do 3 for 50 at my club not so much because its an easy sell but more because it makes the guys think they're gettin somethin for nothin and i end up getting a 5 or 10 dollar tip getting me 55 or 60 dollars where girls who do not always offer them only get 20 per dance i should also say that this is a rather widespread practice at my club and only like 2 of the 13 or 14 girls we have on regular staff wont do a 3 for 50 but the again i say if you can get 30 a song that means you only have to do 2 songs to reach my 3 so more power to you
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Or they can just do $20/song and make MORE than you in the same time. That's what I do in $20 clubs. I have never but NEVER offered any kind of deal because - as I always say - it only devalues the service. And as stated in this thread, I can sell the same guy 3 or 4 or 5 or 10 songs at $20 each, and sell as many dances or MORE than the bargain girls, while they're just working for less.
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thank you bridgette. even that example there illustrates the problem with lowballing. at that club, nearly every girl offers <20$ dances. so the effective dance price has dropped because all the girls thought they had found some fabulous hustle trick. but all it did was drop the price overall.
and once you get into a certain price rut, it is hard to get out of it. but while the girl who dances for 25-30$ in a 20$ dance club will probably still come out ahead and will not NECESSARILY wreck repeat business opportunity, the girl who dances for 10-15$ when the dance price is 20 somehow is ALWAYS making deals to try to earn even 20 a song. and she will often undercut HERSELF in the end. and if she goes to work somewhere dances are 30 or 40 a song, say, she is utterly lost because her mindset is to lower her pricing.
within reason, if you're going to err in dance prices, you should err on the side of getting more per song rather than less. because ultimately it means less work for you, and isn't that really the most ideal situation?
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Here in PDX the standard is 20 for a dance, full nude absolutely NO contact. None of the customers ever question it. I think 20 is totally a deal, especially if you get contact. Charge them that-it's more than fair!
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miabella
within reason, if you're going to err in dance prices, you should err on the side of getting more per song rather than less. because ultimately it means less work for you, and isn't that really the most ideal situation?
Yes ma'am. I always go for equal or MORE, never less. I think bargain girls need some serious re-training or to quit altogether. If you can't sell it at the regular price you shouldn't be doing it at all. Period.
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Okay, Bridg, I hear ya, but lemme be realistic for a moment, assuming I understand the situation correctly. You have too many dancers and a decreasing number of customers. High supply and low demand. That pressures prices to go down or stay down. That's simple economics. So the ratio of strippers to customers makes it a buyer's market, not a seller's.
Then you have clubs making their money from the door, the drinks and the house fees -- all elements that cause the club to want more customer bodies thru the doors and more dancers paying the house fee to work -- so the club has no incentive to support your proposal because, although it'd be good for dancers, it won't be good for the club.
As for the City government, they're not in the business of raising licensing fees for the express purpose of reducing the number of licensees. Especially not if the club owners are greasing the wheels at City Hall to keep it cheap. Besides, the City generally benefits from having more taxpayers come to town. Now maybe you could convince officials that they should be making more revenue for City coffers from the licenses, but raising it to the point it reduces the number of dancers might not result in a net increase in revenues. So my point is that they're only going to act if they think it benefits them, not you. Thus, I'm uncertain of their incentive to regulate the number of dancers.
I think the most practical angle you've got going for you is the customer perception of what a dance is worth, its perceived value. If all dancers band together to enforce $20 and/or if customers knew they'd get higher quality dances at that price, it could happen because, as you say, there would be no alternative and the custies (at least the high quality ones) might think it's worth it. But again, in an environment where dancers are a dime a dozen .. well .. they're literally a dime a dozen. It's a buyer's market because too many dancers will be willing to undercut. (Although, still, even if there is undercutting, that might be better than standard low prices. At least you wouldn't have some ditz saying it's supposed to be $10; she'd be saying I'll do it for $10, and then a customer might be thinking ya get what ya pay for, perceiving the $20 dance as a better quality dance.)
Anyway, bottom line, with so many factors working against it, I don't see how you're going to accomplish what you're proposing. I don't say that to stop you from trying. I'm just asking, how the heck do you actually "git 'er done"?
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LatinaRose
This color is impossible to read babe!
Alright already! I've since changed my font color, thanks...let's move on now!
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>>Edited to add: Get ready, it's long.
I knew someone would bring up the issues of city revenue and house fees. I thought of that already.
I'm proposing a HUGE increase in license fees - that's the only way it's going to make a difference in the number of girls, AND I think that would be a hella easy sell to the city. If the number of dancers is cut in half by an increased license fee to, let's say $300(because any lower number won't significantly cut the number of girls), the city will generate waaaaaayyy more income via license fees than what they're getting now at $21/year.
Let's say there's 2000 licensed dancers in Phoenix now paying a $21 city license fee. Raise the fee to $300 and maybe we won't lose half the girls, but I'll bet we'll see a significant number not renewing - mainly the travellers at first, and then those holiday strippers who only show up at xmastime and such. But that would be a great start for the girls and as time goes on I believe it would get better.
I would add that we should also be required to get a new license for EACH CLUB - clubhopping here is just ridiculous and really screws with the flow. Many girls will work 2 clubs in the same day trying to make their quotas - they'll go to their regular club and if they don't make enough there they'll go to another. It's absurd because if it sucked at club A then the fact club B is getting an influx of club A girls means it will suck there too, for the girls who work there all the time.
So let's say the city sees a reduction of stripper licenses by 20% or 400 girls when the fee goes up to $300. They'd then have 1600 girls paying $300 = $480,000 per year, versus the current (wild guesstimate) 2000 girls paying $21 = $42,000. This would result in a revenue increase of $438,000 per year - over 1000% increase in annual revenue. I'm thinking our city council members would vote for that allllllllll day long, and I betcha it would take more wheel-greasing than the clubs are willing to cough up to get some NOs on that.
Hell, let's say this fee increase cuts the number of girls in half from 2000 to 1000. I doubt it would be that effective but for the sake of argument we'll calculate it anyway. 2000 girls paying $21 = $42k/yr, vs 1000 girls paying $300 = $300k/yr. It would still be an increase in revenue of $258k or over 600% for the city. I'm thinking that would still be quite an easy sell to city council members.
And this isn't even considering the number of girls who would still pay for 2-3 licenses in order to be able to switch clubs. I bet this would drastically reduce clubhopping, but there'd still be a few who'd do it.
And while I don't relish the thought of paying that much for a license to work, I'll happily do it knowing it will get rid of some of the huge stripper influxes we currently put up with, and would greatly discourage many new girls from starting here. Same way it does elsewhere.
Club revenue. At my club we pay a flat house fee plus 10% of earnings which goes to the staff tip pot (and of course the club takes a % of that off the top). Now let's say we're able to raise dance prices with little or no loss in volume because we've just turned it to a seller's market. So if the number of housefee-paying girls is reduced by 20% and we're all making more money, the club would see an increase in what we pay on average for that 10%. I'll bet they'd see the same income from us or more, depending.
As for customer counts, from what I witnessed recently, having 20% fewer girls than what we have now won't run off the customers AT ALL. If anything I think it'll keep them around MORE because they suddenly aren't getting pestered for dances every 5 seconds. Also having fewer girls makes upselling to VIPs easier because suddenly the whole thing is much more valuable. More VIPs sold means more money for the club too.
I don't think it could do anything but help us, especially in the long run. And while I may not be dancing long enough to see much of that long run, I'd love to see things improved for those still in the game.
How to get it done. Well, my first thought is to write an anonymous letter to a few city council members regarding the license fee increase. I think an effective letter would include facts and examples from (an)other area(s) where expensive licensing works for the city, as well as projections for increased revenue using current license numbers.
Then after that's passed I'd say some of the girls simply start a movement to raise dance prices. I think it'd be easier to convince even many of the diehard $10 easy-sell girls once they have to pay so much for a license. I think it would get even easier to convince them when they start seeing fewer girls working and realize they're running their asses off for $10 when they could be getting more.
One final thought to add. Why do yall think so many other professions require licenses to work? I'm not talking about things like doctors and lawyers, but those like hair, nails and the like - stuff that's really not that technical or potentially dangerous. There have been lobbies supported by those in some of those professions to create, enforce and restrict licensing because it helps them keep competition down and maintain their perceived value. We really aren't much different, if at all. It can work for us too.
I could be just dreaming though. I am in one of my crusading moods, and either I'll get over it in a few weeks or yall will start hearing about new proposals at Phx city hall.... ;D
Sorry this is so long.
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I think it's a great idea. The only thing I'd do differently is maybe instead of writing an anonomus letter asking for a lisence fee increase, either get several girls to write letters, or get a petition signed with a lot of dancers and turn that in.
Strength in numbers and all. The more girls that can support a lisence increase, the better to convince them. Shouldn't be that hard to do tho. The hardest part is trying to coordinate a city wide stripper strike on $10 dances and get them to increase their prices. It'll never work unless enough girls all do it at once. Stripper web is a great way to get the word out there, and strippers all can talk to their friends, and pass the word along, set a date to do it, and have as many girls as possible all start charging $20 on the same date.
Another option woudl be to petition your club manager, get him to raise his prices. Hopefully, other clubs will follow, and then it's done. Business for yoru club might go down temporarily, during the time they are the only club charging more...unless you can get girls from other clubs to talk to their managers at the same time....
I dont know...Just thinkign out loud here, but it sounds like a good plan, good idea, and I wish you the best of luck.
Maybe we can get the fee's raised in vegas to....decrease the # of dancers comming in here for convention season...maybe local dancers pay $200 but out of town dancer have to pay $500 or something.....
Now Im dreaming, LOL...
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Kaylinn
Maybe we can get the fee's raised in vegas to....decrease the # of dancers comming in here for convention season...maybe local dancers pay $200 but out of town dancer have to pay $500 or something.....
Now Im dreaming, LOL...
Actually I think that's a pretty good idea. Money is so hit or miss there, it would help if yall could discourage alot of the travellers from invading. Hitting them in the wallet is about the only way.
As for Phx, I'm not so sure a stripper petition is the way to get the license thing started. I'm thinking if word spread too much too soon it just might backfire. I'm picturing clubowners getting wind and trying to stamp it out before it starts, and/or too many girls fearing the worst and either refusing to support it or fighting against it. I think you might have to sneak it in to make it work. And frankly, I can't see any city council member looking at that kind of $ and saying no. Maybe I'm incredibly naive but I think they'd have to approve it. Of course, I think to really make it work you'd have to get it publicized AFTER the proposal is made, to get the general public saying "hell yeah, tax those nasty strippers!!!" ;D
Oh I also forgot to mention the illegals who are able to work here, with licenses, and it seems there's more of them since the license thing started. Clubs seem more lax about checking ID on newhires now, they just check for the license. As far as I know, you currently don't have to provide proof of right to work in this country to get a license to strip in Phoenix. So you get the license with just some ID, and then only show the license to the club, and you're suddenly "allowed" to work illegally in the clubs here. That sucks. We ought to be required to provide proof of legal status as well, just like in Vegas.
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I know why you are in opposition to club hopping, Bridgette, but I personally love working at more than one club at a time, or at least having the option to do so. For instance, Club A's weekend nights supply my kind of crowd and Club B's Tuesday and Wednesday day shifts are good for me also. I wouldn't want to be limited to A or B if I have potential elsewhere. It's too confining.
I would NOT want to work in a city where I couldn't take advantage of more than one business atmosphere. You might say "great, one less girl" but that would be taking it a little too far, IMO. It would still be nice to have some perks while still keeping the "undesirables" out.
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Mileia777
Alright already! I've since changed my font color, thanks...let's move on now!
I said this days ago...but thanks for changing it!!
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AlexxaHex
I know why you are in opposition to club hopping, Bridgette, but I personally love working at more than one club at a time, or at least having the option to do so. For instance, Club A's weekend nights supply my kind of crowd and Club B's Tuesday and Wednesday day shifts are good for me also. I wouldn't want to be limited to A or B if I have potential elsewhere. It's too confining.
I would NOT want to work in a city where I couldn't take advantage of more than one business atmosphere. You might say "great, one less girl" but that would be taking it a little too far, IMO. It would still be nice to have some perks while still keeping the "undesirables" out.
Most the girls who REALLY want to clubhop regularly will just pay the extra fee to do so. But the license will cut down on those occasional hoppers who cause the biggest problem. And frankly, I don't care how confining it is and who doesn't like it. The point is to cut down on the number of girls dancing here and to cut down on major influxes at slow times. Clubhopping is one of the biggest reasons for those slow-time influxes. And yeah, the fact that this would cause alot of girls to not want to dance in this city is EXACTLY the point. The "perk" would be MORE MONEY for those of us still dancing here. MONEY is by far the best perk of all.
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What kind of extra fee are you talking about here? Are you saying that dancers who want to work at more than one club should pay an additional $300?
And say (just hypothetically) I was already IN Phoenix and was working at 2 different clubs. I just don't think it would be fair to make me cough up $600 to continue working in the same fashion. Out of towners - yes I can understand the need to curb the influx but the dancers who are already assets to the local industry don't need to be punished financially.
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Yes an additional $300. I don't see it as punishing. Most clubhoppers really aren't what we'd truly call an asset to the industry. To be frank, as far as I'm concerned, anyone who doesn't like it or doesn't want to pay it can move on. Again, that is the whole point. Again, the result would be less competition and ultimately MORE MONEY for us, so anyone who wants to leave would be more than welcome.
What if the license fee increase made it so you didn't need to clubhop anymore??? Because that's the goal and the way I see it.
Also it's not a punishment. It's a small price to pay for more job security and more earning potential.
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Just thought of something...
We are independant business owners. We pay house fees, or "rent" to rent out the space needed to conduct our business.
How could they charge for lisencing for specific clubs? I mean, your lisenced to dance. Anywhere in that city. As long as your paying the rent for that particular club, I dont see how they can impose a lisence for a particular club. But if you can do it..more power to you. I like the idea.
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Good luck trying to get this to fruition.
I wish I had this attitude, here in NJ, in the 90's. I would have strangled the first girl who said it was ok to pay us $12 per 1/2 hour set instead of $18.
That was the start of the downward spiral.
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(this is gonna be pretty long too)
#1) Geez, I didn't know illegals were allowed to dance. Thats a disturbing thought when you factor in that most 'strip clubs' in Mexico are really brothels. So who knows what those chicks are offering....
#2) I LOVE the idea of raising the license fee. Hopefully it'll weed out girls who aren't making money. }:D I'm sure this sounds weird coming from someone whos only been dancing for 5 months, but even I agree that theres waaay too many girls, so many of whom fall into the 'broke as hell' category. Every night I hear girls with hardly any makeup on, filthy, unflattering, mismatched costumes, chipped nail polish, dirty hair, etc. etc. whining and whining about how theres no money to be made. When they're out on the floor, they never smile, give customers attitude, or sulk in corners. Obviously, the sayings "it takes money to make money" and "if you can't smile, don't open a store" are lost concepts to them. They degrade the overall atmosphere of clubs - customers easily pick up on their unhappiness, and it turns them off! And who wants to get cussed out for not wanting a dance from them?
Meanwhile, I'm a new dancer with a much simpler stage show, but who comes in with a good attitude and invests plenty of money, time, and effort into having a good presentation - hair and makeup nicely done, plenty of clean and flattering costumes... not to mention the countless hours I spend reading stripperweb. :P I may not be a perfect 10, but you know what? I'm consistantly a top earner at my club. No matter how dead it is, I can still exceed my quotas in the same room where another chick is whining about making only $2.00 .
If these girls aren't willing to drop $50.00-100.00 on makeup and a couple costumes, I'm sure the thought of spending $300.00 on a license will be even more of an issue for them + it'll be harder for some new ghetto tweaker to obtain. I HOPE SO. I don't think it matters if they've been dancing for 10 years or 10 days, trash is trash. Successful dancers and customers would greatly benefit from these types being weeded out. It'd be nice to see more QUALITY, opposed to QUANTITY. Additionaly, it'll cut down on johns frequenting clubs, as they target girls that aren't making $.
The scenario I speak of seems to be very common in PHX since theres many low to mid scale clubs out here. I'm sure club owners will hate losing girls due to a high license fee, and will most likely raise their fees to compensate. But if the girls they do have are making more $ it may not matter. Hopefully it's enough $ to still profit more though.
#3) Once the volume of girls dies down and customers are consequently under less pressure, it'll be easier for $15.00-$20.00 dances to be sold. But I also think it'll work at upscale/gentlemens clubs only. I highly doubt it'll fly in clubs dominated by blue collar guys on a budget - at least not for while.
$15-20.00 dances at upscale clubs will detract less affluent men from entering them. This could be good for the reputations of those clubs - affluent men wary of being amongst less affluent types may frequent the club more. The less affluent customers will flock to the lower tier clubs and give them a financial boost - which in turn could make some of the seedier clubs less seedy.
A combination of expensive license + $20.00 dances at high end clubs could equal better business for everyone involved.
............................... or maybe I'm being too optimistic, haha.
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Not to rain on the parade here but just a little food for thought from a customer, I know it's not wanted but I'll give it anyways.
-any letter to the city council is probably not a good idea, the mayor and the city council have not proven to be fans of strip clubs in the past and I'm guessing you'd run the chance of this move backfiring on you in some way.
-speaking of the city, if they were to get a stick in their ass about the clubs actually enforcing the rules on the books as far as contact is concerned the chances of you actually finding many people willing to shell out $20 for an air dance is probably remote.
-it's probably a bit naive to think that you wouldn't see a decrease in customer traffic
-it's also probably naive to think that dancers fees wouldn't be increased, go talk to the girls at Babe's where most of the dances are now $20 (my understanding is that that change came along with a hefty increase in dancer fees).
-don't think for a second that customers won't be expecting more for a $20 dance than they were getting for a $10 dance. I'm guessing contact levels would increase even more.
-say goodbye to the easy "wanna dance" sales, guys will be more selective and will be expecting you work more for their dollars. I know that's not a concern to some dancers but I'm guessing some would find it a bit daunting.
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A question from a Libertarian perspective is why in the world does a dancer need to go to the nanny state and pay money to get a license to perform? Geez! What's next? A license to make love to your spouse? The nanny state wants more and more of our money to redistribute ala Marxism.
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Richard_Head
-say goodbye to the easy "wanna dance" sales, guys will be more selective and will be expecting you work more for their dollars. I know that's not a concern to some dancers but I'm guessing some would find it a bit daunting.
Good. That's exactly the point. If they can no longer make the money they can go bye-bye. This business needs some serious weeding out.
Yeah, customer traffic might decrease a little if we raise prices, but I don't see any of us starving. Remember we're going to lose some girls too. Also, IF the license fee were raised, we might just be better off to the point we won't mind the $10 dances anymore.
Finally, I know you regular just HATE the thought of what is being proposed here, obviously for your own selfish reasons. Hey, who would like the thought of having to suddenly start paying *gasp* the national standard price for a service? But really, the vast majority of our customers are NOT you guys. They are mostly non-regulars who don't come in very often and/or only do so on special occasions or when they're travelling. Travelling guys are mostly used to paying $20 anyway, so I don't see them having too much issue with doing so here too. I *used to* get paid $20 regularly from travellers because they felt it was worth it, but with all these new twits flooding the club we are undervalued. If we can cut down on the number of girls we'll return to being more valuable - whether you regulars like it or not.
Regarding this causing city hall to decide to crack down and enforce the contact rules more. I would welcome it AS LONG AS THEY ENFORCE EQUALLY ON THE CLUBS AS WELL AS THE GIRLS. Hell, maybe we should propose a new city fine system for clubs violating rules. It will 1) clean up the clubs and 2) make the VIP more valuable and desirable ;D Again you regulars may not like that but the majority of the customers AREN'T regulars and aren't so....demanding, to put it nicely. Despite the proliferation of the internet and websites focused on strippers / stripclubs, the vast majority of our customers are not and never will be the kind who sit around reading and posting online about how to get the most mileage for least money. Thankfully.
I don't know about all the other clubs, but my club already has a system in place to benefit from a decrease in girls and a subsequent increase in the girls' average take-home. It's that 10% tipout. Obiously if we're making more money we're going to be paying more for our 10%, and the club will see higher average takes from each girl, rather than alot of girls paying a little. Or they can charge a little higher house fee. Fine by me. If they lose 20% of their girls but raise house fees by $10, it will maintain their housefee revenue but won't be enough to hurt us. Most girls will not mind paying an extra $10 or $20 a night if they're making $100+ more nightly. I know I wouldn't.
I have seen this work elsewhere. It works very well.
>>Edit to add: As for the licensing for each club thing. City of Atlanta currently requires a new license for each club a girl works within their city limits. If they can do it, we can do it. All that needs to be done is pass a new ordinance or amend the current one.
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liberator
A question from a Libertarian perspective is why in the world does a dancer need to go to the nanny state and pay money to get a license to perform? Geez! What's next? A license to make love to your spouse? The nanny state wants more and more of our money to redistribute ala Marxism.
:no: Silly boy. This isn't sex, playtime or dating ::) It's a business like any other. All businesses require licensing. duh