Re: What would you do about the DAMN EXTRAS !
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Originally Posted by
Jenny
Like, fucking handjob disease or something? "No, no! The hormones they've been ingesting can KILL you!"
Fine. If you want to go and ruin the ritualistic circle of the sharing the of the flesh of our slutty (sluttier? Too slutty? Whatever) brethern... I mean, sistrern? (What do I mean there?) Go right on ahead. But later, when we complain that there is no solidarity between dancers, you remember this moment.
ya know, i was thinking that with the amount of alcohol in their systems combined with maybe a bit of a flambay (sp?), the alcohol content and heat could potentially kill that hand job bacteria. so no worries on that part...
on the other hand, what would the side effects of hand job disease be? would it be like, constantly feeling like you are receiving a hand job? bc if so, i'm all for it. but if its like some kind of crazy disease where you constantly feel the need to GIVE one... i'm sure my husband could enjoy that.;D ;D ;D
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the best you can do is try to work at the cleanest club you can find, and then do your damnedest to keep it that way.
luckily, we have a "regular" group of girls who work often, make money, and are the foundation of our club. anyone in that group (self included) will rat a new girl out in a HEARTBEAT for doing anything sketchy. the club takes care of it pretty quick since they #1 don't tolerate extras anyway -and- #2 won't risk losing their "good money makers" over it.
the biggest problem is, even in a "clean" club, you run into new girls who will fuck your day up by doing extras before they get thrown out. also, if you work in a city with a lot of dirty clubs (like tampa) the majority of out-of-towners as well as in-towners "expect" that kind of action. so, working in a city with a reputation for having the highest contact clubs can be veru diffcult, even in a low contact club.
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Re: What would you do about the DAMN EXTRAS !
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Originally Posted by
Sayan
In a perfect world ...if strippers we all united to stop this "extras" phenomenon going on, that is litteraly ruining the business, as if contact dancing weren't enough !...What do you think would be the best way to stop that nasty shit besides all agreeing to NOT do it...I mean legally, what is your view on what strippers could do about it ?
I'm late to the party and haven't read the thread, yet. My best solution would be to legalize prostitution. Then the extras customers could easily and legally find girls to provide whatever they wanted.
I'd bet my last nickel that some strip clubs would sign up to be be legal brothels if it were available. Then the lines would be clearly drawn, problem solved (sort of).
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rusdancer
^^^God,that is so so true!It seems to me that sometimes it's easier to dance in a smaller town club than a big city one.
Abso-fucking-lutely!
No one likes the honky tonks, but I made almost my entire career working small town places and banking w/o ever providing extras.;D
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Fred
Work in Ohio.
Well shit, why didn't I think of that before? ::) It'll only take me several days to get to and from work! Genius!
You girls don't know nothin bout extras til you've worked in LA. I know they are everywhere else too, but it is SO prevalent here that you consider yourself lucky if your customer doesn't try to shove his fingers in your every orifice or feed on your boobs like a newborn. Here, it is very common for a guy to go into a nude club and get a hand job, blow job or even full on sex. There are message boards and yahoo groups dedicated to discussing who provides what sexual service in LA clubs. I've worked in places where girls openly share lube and condoms. They are living on 90's stripper kind of money, but having to do a LOT more to get it. Many of them seem okay with it. You totally see what goes on too and it becomes...well, normal. Not desirable, but normal. Like, "oh there's Princess blowing her regular again. Let me pick out my music for my next stage." There are some clubs that are cleaner, but they are completely dead. I've worked at some GORGEOUS clubs here that were so clean and beautiful and had great staff but no customers would show up because of their strict no-extras rules.
So here, I HAVE to work in an extras club to make any kind of money. Because I'd rather fend off the advances and the hands and make money than be sitting around making $50 with no customers. Yep. That's my reality.
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^^^Wow, I could have written that same post myself...:(
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I'm sorry - I forgot Houston is LA's sister extras city. Almost anywhere else in the country looks so much better.
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Yeah, go Houston and L.A.! >:(
There was a time, in my naivete that I though something could be done about it. Aside from legalizing prostitution, I don't see it happening. Especially if you live in a corrupt city with corrupt club management with their grubby, greedy hands out.
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Are there ridiculously high tip-outs in Houston too? In many places is it more than 40% here. I am just asking for research purposes...maybe there is a connection.
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Re: What would you do about the DAMN EXTRAS !
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Originally Posted by
AlexxaHex
I'm sorry - I forgot Houston is LA's sister extras city. Almost anywhere else in the country looks so much better.
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Work in Toronto... the girls don't even wait to get to the VIP.. i've seen girls suck guys off from the stage... i've seen girls fuck guys on stage.... meh...
Oh Jenny I never told you that story... ahaha I Don Know ::)
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Okay - caveat - I've never seen this. You may safely work in Toronto for years and never see a blowjob.
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LoL I should mention this doesnt happen at all clubs... most are VERY discreet... but umm yea there are places *coughmississaugacough* that is just is not hidden..
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But in Vegas, we HAVE legalized prostitution. Well, ok, 45 minutes away from vegas, but still, close enough.
And there's still extras around here.
The brothels are more expensive. Why drive 45 minutes away, pay a grand for sex, when you can just buy a vip room and get laid?
And there are hookers on every corner. Which I assume are cheaper, but guys still come in to the clubs to get laid.
I would say that strippers woudl benifit from sales training, to learn how to sell without needing to offer extras, but hey....I dont want every stripper to know how to hustle. That will take my money, not the girls putting out. Like I said before, the extra's girls do me a favor by taking the bad clients and freeing up the good ones for me.
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in houston tipouts are pretty low, about 20-40 house average and 20 to stay off stage (topless) 50 or so to do the same (nude). and managers at many clubs won't take money, although 10-20 is certainly acceptable to those that do take tips.
pre-houston legal changes/issues (i.e. summer of last year and a bit past that), a girl would work in a large topless club and make money without doing extras, but the competition was high. or she could work at one of the nude clubs and set her own contact levels plus get a lot of stage money.
i knew a girl making 1k per shift off stage tips and dances, no extras (but did allow boob and ass grabbing in private dances-- did some doubles with her). she worked nude and did very very well. and plenty of other girls did nearly as well, often with lower contact.
that said, all of this was houston last summer and over the last couple years, and recent changes will probably make that dynamic different. it used to be topless was super-extras and very competitive (except for the one token superclean upscale club), while with nude there were girls offering extras, but you didn't have to compete directly (due to the dances being done in private rooms, so customers could ever get a notion about something they were 'missing'). and the stage money working nude was pretty sweet.
houston is pretty ridden, don't get me wrong. it can be demoralising to make your money without extras knowing other girls offer extras to keep even with your averages. but it's not like there were no ways to make money extras-free there. it was just a trickier business. i knew of girls making decent (300-500/shift) money topless with no extras, and simply knew more doing so nude.
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I hope the girls that do extras in a club where I am trying to abide by the rules and make an honest dollar... well I hope they get VD... Go to the corner.
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I get a girlboner every time cally says 'sucked' and 'fucked'. :/
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lilithmorrigan
I get a girlboner every time cally says 'sucked' and 'fucked'. :/
you're not the only one }:D
The way it works here in Australia (as it has already been covered multiple times) so that sex (hj, bj etc) are strictly kept to the brothels or at least not within the club.... is that all the clubs I have ever been within (including some which might be considered 'dives') have self-policed this aspect. Plus the fact that the club and dancer both enjoy the penalty for extras happening in their club (the dancer gets a ridiculous fine, the club is fined and has their license revoked even it is temporary).
Thus because the penalty DOES affect the club, they don't tolerate it. Plus the fact that the other dancers 'police' the club as such in each and every club I work within.
It just doesn't happen. If it does, I have yet to see it.
Damn the US is so screwed. :D
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Doesn't work at my club. :( Extras girls run in packs and have all the whales tied down.
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^^^ another seemingly uniquely American issue is that Law Enforcement often busts every dancer in an 'extras' club ... regardless of whether or not particular girls were blatantly providing sex for money or just 'dancing' ... and then effectively leaves it to the individual dancers to try to 'prove their innocence'.