Every time I sit with a guy I wind up talking to them way to long and don't know how to stop the conversation to getting to ask for a private dance and be on my way. Any tips on this?
Kalani
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Every time I sit with a guy I wind up talking to them way to long and don't know how to stop the conversation to getting to ask for a private dance and be on my way. Any tips on this?
Kalani
I normally keep $$ in the back of my mind. It helps me to keep on track of what I'm doing. If I get the feel that I'm not going to get a dance, I cordially excuse myself and move on. Most of the men that you run into do understand that your job is to hustle and that is how we make our money. Do a bit of small talk and ego stroking and after a couple of songs, move on.
I have the same problem... I end up sitting with them forever and listening to them drone on about nothing... blah blah blah...
The guys that want dances usually will ask me for them, and say something along the lines of "So are you going to dance for me now?" "So when are you going to ask me about that lapdance?" or... the 2 VIPs that I've got have been in situations like this... I've sat down and talked with them for awhile and then out of the blue they've asked "So how do the VIP rooms work? Have you ever done them before?"
I thinkk I'm getting a little better on sensing whether or not a guy is interested in buying a dance, I tell them I have to go onstage next or to the dressing room and leave, but tell them if they want a dance later let me know
Read hustle hut. It has all the tips you're looking for. Also, I wouldn't recommend waiting for the customer to ask you for dances. Generally they expect to be asked. Hustle hut will give you tons of information, but in a nutshell:
Introduce yourself and gain rapport for a song (about 3-4 minutes, longer if club is slow, quicker if club is busy), ask yes questions, during the second song begin to close your sale, transition the conversation around to get him into the mood of buying a dance - using body language, sexy, fun lines, and lots of persuasion.
I highlighted the terms that have been gone over in Hustle hut, that will help you.
I usually excuse myself stating that I have to talk to the DJ.
I always say "I have to go to the back, I'll check up on you in a bit" if they say no to a dance offer. Usually I ask when the DJ makes a special offer or a girl finishes her stage set. It's a nice little transition for me.
I talk too much as it is but honestly, that got me a couple of vips before when there was no one in the club. They were impressed I liked talking and wasnt asking for dances. If they're cool people, and there is no one else in the club to hustle, I talk to them to kill time until someone else comes along. Usually they'll buy a dance or more or even a vip. Better than sitting in the back twiddling my thumbs.
After a period of time, when you feel EXHAUSTED from their chatter say something along the lines of "why don't we go over there it's more private" if he says yes, reassure him say "i will take good care of you" it sounds sexual but its really a hospitality gesture... if he says no that is when you go! don't waste your time trying to get him to say yes, find other guys that will say yes and when you run out of them go back to the no customer only if you must and see if he had a change of heart.
I'm a little hesitent to mention this trick I use since it's a little weird, but here goes anyway.
When I started dancing my problem was that I would plan not to talk to a guy for more than a song or two before pitching, but then I would get distracted by the conversation and lose track of time, and before I knew it I'd wasted waaay too much time talking to this guy. Then it would be difficult to transition into the close since we'd be deep in conversation about non-sexy thing, and it would come out awkward and I would have no dance to show for all that time.
So basically I needed something to keep me aware of the passing of time, and I didn't want to wear a watch. In my "daytime life" I would timed meetings with clients, and found myself having time management issues (going overtime, not accomplishing everything I wanted to durring the session, etc.), so I bough the device at this website to keep me on track: www.invisibleclock.com. It has a vibrating mode, so it is not intrusive or distracting, but keeps me aware of how much time has passed.
So I figured that might work for dancing. I keep it hidden in my garter under my money (if I'm wearing a wide enough garter) or in a purse if you keep it on your lap (I don't love carrying one though as I'm always afraid I'm going to leave it behind somewhere). I have it set to vibrate on low every 5 minutes to remind myself of my ABCs! (Always Be Closing).
I know, kinda dorky. But it has help with my time management awareness.
^Nice Idea! My gf works at the same club I do, so we'll txt one another (set on vibrate) when we see one another talking too long. Works quite well and brings you back down to a 'business' point of view.
However, I work during the days, and I've noticed that with guys that come in during the day, they want you to sit and talk longer, but it usually pays off in the end, meaning instead of bouncing from table to table all day, two to three guys will make my day....