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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
there's one club i work in, a guy comes in every thursday, he'll spend money on stage, not just me but every girl. but he won't get dances. when he's there and i'm on stage i usually make about $50. But like i said that's every girl, other than that no.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
I am great at both stage and private dances. Tipping at the stage is not common in Australia so I rely on selling private dances to make my money.
I am not really the conversation type. I get bored easily so I would rather just dance. That is, unless the guy is really nice and good to talk to.
I know what u mean by you are her "island in a sea of insanity" in the club. We have a few of those guys at our club. They will come in and shout rounds of drinks and provide a safe haven for the girls in between doing dances for customers.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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rooster470
I've noticed that when I go to the strip club there are three things i'm looking for: good conversation, good lapdance, and good stage show. I've found that I've become a regular of a different dancer for each one of those functions. There's one dancer that i've actually become friends with outside the club and become her "island in a sea of insanity" in the club; another dancer that i pretty much exclusively get dances from; and a third dancer that I tip a large amount on stage. I was wondering if any of the dancers have customers like me with whom you stick to one of those 3 functions or if you always try to get more from your customer. Amazingly the dancer I tip a large amount on stage never asks me for dances; the dancer I talk with never asks me for dances; and the dancer I get dances from rarely says more than a hello. This isn't so much a question as an observation but I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on the situation i've described.
I know what you're saying, there are certain customers I talk to and I feel some kind of connection to them that I can talk to them, and the guys like what I say once we have broken the ice and everything, that is the hardest part. There was this guy that would come into my old club every Friday, he got to know how I was in the club and we would just talk, he would buy dances too though and I would usually make about $100 off of him. he was a cool guy, I see what you're saying, just an example. One thing I want to say, the dancer on stage never asks you for a dance, so you must tip her well. The dancer that you get dances from, well you're giving her money for dances of course. The dancer with the conversation though, she does no dances or anything, so do you tip her to talk to you?
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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The dancer with the conversation though, she does no dances or anything, so do you tip her to talk to you?
I was wondering too. I was going to bite my tongue, but the first thing I thought was how it'd suck to be the one he likes to just talk too.
I try to be good at all 3. My stage dance is probably weakest out of them and my lap dance the strongest. Actually, since I'm not dirty I guess guys would probably think my convo is the strongest.
All of my customers tend to sit at my rack, get dances and also hang out and talk for a bit (if I'm not busy ;) ). I do know what you're saying though, and a few times I've watched dancers who are exceptional at different things and thought how they would be "super stripper" if their powers were combined.
I'm wondering though if maybe you have something a little more psychological going on though - as far as wanting separate girls for different things? Like a "friend" dancer, an "intimate" dancer, and a purely entertaining dancer.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
i have a few customers who come in and pay me for a couple/few hours of time/conversation. i have a couple who come in just for dances. but, to my knowledge, i don't have any that -just- come to see me stage side. although, there are a few customers of other girls, who'll always come up to the stage when i'm on, compliment me on my set, and tip very well.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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holiday
I'm wondering though if maybe you have something a little more psychological going on though - as far as wanting separate girls for different things? Like a "friend" dancer, an "intimate" dancer, and a purely entertaining dancer.
It's absolutely psychological. The one dancer that I talk with started out as a dancer that I would get dances with, but once I got to know her and we became friends (We've actually hung out outside the club as friends) I stopped getting dances from her entirely because it became creepy for me to be getting dances from someone I considered a friend. I'll tip her $5 when she's on stage but other than that I don't pay her for her time. If she has down time in the club she'll come over and chat but if she's busy I don't bother her.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
Well maybe if you really value her "role" you should consider paying her for it. If you don't then she is hardly your "dancer" because you're not a customer.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
i don't get that.
i really like this girl and consider her a friend, but i won't pay her for her time at her job.
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if you had a male friend who was a bartender and you went to his bar, would you tip him well?
i know you tip her 5 bucks on stage, but come on. she's still at work, "friend" or not. you stopped spending money on her because you value her personality?
men. confuse. me.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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Pretty_Penny
i don't get that.
i really like this girl and consider her a friend, but i won't pay her for her time at her job.
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if you had a male friend who was a bartender and you went to his bar, would you tip him well?
i know you tip her 5 bucks on stage, but come on. she's still at work, "friend" or not. you stopped spending money on her because you value her personality?
men. confuse. me.
Good point there with the bartender, men don't make no sense to me either.::)
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
I think all of you are misunderstanding the situation. She doesn't come over and chat for an hour. When she has 5 minutes here, 5 minutes there, she comes over to take a break and shoot the shit. I have a bartender friend at this club also and I don't tip him for chatting. If I get a drink I give him a tip. If my dancer friend is on stage i'll give her a small tip also.
And yes, I stopped spending money on her because I value her personality. She's become an actual friend, and you don't pay your friends to chat. If you pay your friends to chat then they are not your friends.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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rooster470
If you pay your friends to chat then they are not your friends.
If you go take up your friend's time at their job and don't compensate them for it like the other guys do then maybe you aren't that great a friend yourself. I guess only you and your dancer know on that one.
Personally, I think being a great entertainer means that you are good at all three of these things. I know I am.;)
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
I never initiate the conversation. She knows i'm there if she wants a break.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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rooster470
If you pay your friends to chat then they are not your friends.
Well. My friends don't come to chat with me in a context in which my chat is worth money. Nor, of course, do they come and watch me take my clothes off in a professional context. Like I used to have a friend who was a chef - if he invited me over to his place and cooked for me I didn't pay him. If I went to his restaurant, I did. Ultimately I suspect you are misreading the situation and she is just naively hoping that sooner or later you will spend the money.
Not mention you opened this thread talking about services you wanted in a strip club. You referred to her as one of your dancers. Not a friend who happened to work at a place you frequent. Anyway - I don't have friends like you, and honestly I can't imagine why anyone would ever want one.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
Have to agree with Jenny on this one.
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And yes, I stopped spending money on her because I value her personality. She's become an actual friend, and you don't pay your friends to chat. If you pay your friends to chat then they are not your friends.
So, if you pay a dancer, you can't value her personality? Dude, as a long-time SC perv, personality is the real value a dancer brings to the table. A nice body, while increasingly a rare commodity, is still not that tough to come by, but a fun, sexy, dirty dancer is all about personality and that's what gets me to shell out the bucks. If you aren't willing to pay for that attitude, why are you at the club? And why do you think the dancer is your friend?
Doesn't anyone go to strip clubs anymore for the right reasons?
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
I don't care about converstion at all. It is always so awkward, predictible, scripted and lame. The less conversation the better.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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Jenny
Well. My friends don't come to chat with me in a context in which my chat is worth money. Nor, of course, do they come and watch me take my clothes off in a professional context. Like I used to have a friend who was a chef - if he invited me over to his place and cooked for me I didn't pay him. If I went to his restaurant, I did. Ultimately I suspect you are misreading the situation and she is just naively hoping that sooner or later you will spend the money.
Not mention you opened this thread talking about services you wanted in a strip club. You referred to her as one of your dancers. Not a friend who happened to work at a place you frequent. Anyway - I don't have friends like you, and honestly I can't imagine why anyone would ever want one.
i agree 100%
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
Yep, one girl for first rate SS and great sense of humour to play the SS/CS game with, one girl for the guaranteed sleazy VIP dance (Oh, sorry, didn't realize your face was that close!), and one girl who acts like a normal dull old everyday friend, and brings a touch of normalcy back to the environment. There's also the veteran for solid no BS info if needed, and the sensible girl who's not afraid to tell me if I'm acting unwisely. Last but not least is the girl with a bit of social power at the club, or with a large group of friends, good to have on your team.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
I've got quite a few customers who tip me a lot on stage every time they come in, but don't buy dances. That being said, I rarely ever hustle for dances, so perhaps if I actually asked them they'd buy one haha.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
Rooster,
I'd advise you to take the responses in this thread with a pillar of salt. These people don't know squat about the relationship that you have with your friend. They don't know how much you tip on stage, the level of the friendship, the amount of time spent, etc. But they are quick to twist your words and use them against you and levy judgment at the drop of a hat.
If you are happy with your relationship, be it inside or outside a club, keep doing what you do.
-afx
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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afxturnip
Rooster,
I'd advise you to take the responses in this thread with a pillar of salt. These people don't know squat about the relationship that you have with your friend. They don't know how much you tip on stage, the level of the friendship, the amount of time spent, etc. But they are quick to twist your words and use them against you and levy judgment at the drop of a hat.
If you are happy with your relationship, be it inside or outside a club, keep doing what you do.
-afx
As sterling advice as that is, one hardly needs to post on a message board to get it. So if that is the stance one is going to cling to, the whole "interactivity" element of the message board is kind of going out the window.
And no - of course we don't know the particulars of what he pays "his friend". If he thinks it is pertinent, however, he is free to tell us.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
I'd just like to reiterate what I wrote in the original post. When I described the situation I was merely making an observation of my strip club experience and wanting to see if others find themselves in similar circumstances. Like the Mike Myers character on SNL Linda Richman, here's a topic now discuss.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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afxturnip
Rooster,
If you are happy with your relationship, be it inside or outside a club, keep doing what you do.
-afx
This is excellent advice.
Most of the advice you'll receive on this board will be " spend money or stay away" for the most part.
Nobody but you really knows the particulars of your situation. There are dancers I know IRL who suggest I stop by their club sometime for a drink. Sometimes I do, other times I don't, but I don't tip them for talking to me and we've never done dances. I buy a round or two, we kill an hour and then they are off to hustle. If they strike out, they'll come back for a bit if I'm still there. Other times I go in, they might already be busy, we acknowledge each other but never get to spend anytime together. Such an arrangement might not work for all dancers and all customers but it works within my circle.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
I find it funny how everyone focused on the girl not getting paid.I can see both sides of this tho b/c I've been there.When I went in all we did was talk we were becoming friends but I paid her for the time she spent with me to make up for the money she could have or would have made on another guy.I know it was a nice break for her,she got to be herself,she didn't have to hustle or dance but I was paying to get to know her.It was the best money I ever spent. As soon as we developed a real OTC relationship or friendship tho I stopped going in b/c it was creepy.I didn't want to see her that way anymore and I know she didn't want to see me in there or see her that way anymore either.If it's a real OTC friendship I wouldn't think you'd want to see her in there anymore.I don't meam any offense to the job or tany of the strippers but who really wants to see one of the friends stripping?JMO
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
Adding to my reply above, I think it is a good practice to get along with EVERY girl at your local SC and be friendly to as many as you come into regular contact with. Keep your options for an enjoyable visit as open as possible.