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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
I definitely agree there are different dancers for different roles just as there are different positions on a football team.
As you go to different SC's and depending on what your agenda is you will find there are gals who fit in different slots on your team. Sometimes this can be special to a particular club. It takes getting out and going to different clubs and sampling different girls, sort of like a coach taking a recruiting trip.
Here in Houston, I go to Treasures for one type of girl, the Ritz for another, and then Sugars just for company and to hang. Its all relative to what your are looking for and (or) to spend - OTC / ITC Extras, high mileage lap dances, or to just hang out and enjoy cuddling, drinks, conversation.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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Originally Posted by
rooster470
I've noticed that when I go to the strip club there are three things i'm looking for: good conversation, good lapdance, and good stage show. I've found that I've become a regular of a different dancer for each one of those functions.
r470:
At first glance, your post appeared to endorse a balanced, "smorgasbord" approach to the SC experience. However, IMO, the controversy stems from the impression that your "regular" status with 3 different ladies only warrants tipping 2-out-of-3 well for 2-out-of-3 of their respective "functions".
Although you seem to value your friend's conversation and personality, there are at least 2 other dancers (Ms. Lapdance & Ms. Stage) who are not as well-acquainted with you but benefit more from your "regular" status than Ms. OTC Conversation. I understand and agree with you that we needn't feel obligated to pay our friends to chat. However, if you went out to dinner with the esteemed Ms. OTC Conversation, would you pay for her meal or go Dutch?
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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Originally Posted by
rooster470
I took her to a sporting event and I paid for tickets. Next time we went to a museum and she paid for tickets.
Hey, that's Kool & The Gang, r470...
However, you began this thread discussing the merits of selecting three different dancers for three different roles (conversation/stage/laps)--within the confines of the club.
You and Ms. OTC Conversation have moved beyond the "dancer-customer" scenario that you initially presented, which is a rare and desirable outcome, indeed. Your evolving relationship raises some interesting questions:
--Will you continue chatting with your friend when you visit the club?
--Will you you choose a new conversationalist to replace her so that she can earn $$$ elsewhere in the club?
--Do you focus on selecting two dancers for the two remaining roles (stage/laps)?
... :-\
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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Originally Posted by
rooster470
I think all of you are misunderstanding the situation. She doesn't come over and chat for an hour. When she has 5 minutes here, 5 minutes there, she comes over to take a break and shoot the shit. I have a bartender friend at this club also and I don't tip him for chatting. If I get a drink I give him a tip. If my dancer friend is on stage i'll give her a small tip also.
And yes, I stopped spending money on her because I value her personality. She's become an actual friend, and you don't pay your friends to chat. If you pay your friends to chat then they are not your friends.
On the same note, you should also not bug the fuck outta your friends while they are at work and are supposta be making money.
One of my best girlfriends works at B&BW's, I wouldn't go in there all day and bug her and take her away from paying custys, why should you be any different at your "friends" work?
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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Originally Posted by
kitana
On the same note, you should also not bug the fuck outta your friends while they are at work and are supposta be making money.
One of my best girlfriends works at B&BW's, I wouldn't go in there all day and bug her and take her away from paying custys, why should you be any different at your "friends" work?
How did you make the giant leap to "bugging the fuck " out of someone "all day long" and "taking her away from paying custies"?
I have a handful of dancers in a couple of clubs I frequent who come by to chat and maybe drink if and when it is possible. It is certainly not a money thing as I rarely do any more than buy them drinks. I would never expect them to forego an opportunity to make money by wasting time with me. On some occasions, there isn't even an opportunity to speak to each other if they are busy and I always step aside for a spending customer when necessary. For the most part, these are all friends IRL and I am there, if not at their invitation, at least with their approval. I don't see why anyone should have a problem with this. I understand that they're there to make money and accept the fact that they might leave mid-conversation when a regular comes in.
Isn't it really the girl's responsibility not to waste her time?
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
You might say that it is anyone's responsibility not to waste their own time. It doesn't mean that we have to think well of you for helping. You guys have this ridiculous idea that because we think you "no, no, she really, really likes me and we're close friends and she wouldn't even want my money" types are... well, you know we think, that there has to be some polar-opposite corollary. We can think that she is dumb for working for drinks AND that the guy wasting her time is a douchebag. It's not an "either/or" situation. To me (and to everyone else) it seems pretty obvious that he still thinks of her as a dancer he is interacting with professionally - read the title of the thread and the OP, for crying out loud. He said himself - she is the dancer he uses for the role of conversation.
We could probably give you guys who want to sit around talking about how much strippers really like your company and aren't interested in money your own thread. Just so the rest of us can stop rolling our eyes. I swear, between the lot of you, you are going to cause the detachment of my retinas.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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Originally Posted by
Jenny
...You guys have this ridiculous idea that because we think you "no, no, she really, really likes me and we're close friends and she wouldn't even want my money" types are... well, you know we think, that there has to be some polar-opposite corollary. We can think that she is dumb for working for drinks AND that the guy wasting her time is a douchebag.
Jenny, things are not as black and white as you say - there are shades of grey.
As the risk of sounding like a broken record, there are three dancers I'm friendly with outside of work. Due to that my path tends to cross casually with further dancers outside of work. For example one dancer is currently sharing a flat with a girl who's also a dancer. As it's not exactly unknown for me to get invited in for coffee, I've wound up on quite amiable terms with the second dancer as well.
If I go into a venue to pick up the dancer I'm friendly with and her flat mate is there as well, her flat mate refuses to let me tip her. Her attitude is pretty simple:
"I drink coffee and chat with you in my kitchen. I'd feel uncomfortable dancing in front of you, and I don't want to collect from you".
Accordingly, I'll buy her a drink and chat if she wants - while making sure I'm out of sight of where she dances.
Am I a douchebag for respecting the dancer's wishes by not tipping her and not taking any notice of her dancing?
Phil.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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Originally Posted by
Phil-W
Am I a douchebag for respecting the dancer's wishes by not tipping her and not taking any notice of her dancing?
Phil.
Obviously you are, Phil. You should immediately end any and all friendships with dancers IRL. Instead of spending any significant time with them at all in or out of the club, get a second job and, as soon as you get your paycheck from that job, go in and spend it all on them. Tell them you are not interested in their friendship, and that you are not interested in talking to them unless you can pay them for doing so. If you happen to be short of cash on a day when they are working, be sure to only speak to them for that amount of time you can afford. If she doesn't have the time to talk to you, make sure you visit her at the stage. Bring plenty of money and make sure you tip generously while slobbering all over yourself and making crude comments to her. Since you are no longer friends, its OK because it is appropriate for you to act like a fool or a pig since they are apparently the only type of guys the girls think belong in the club.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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Originally Posted by
bem401
Since you are no longer friends, its OK because it is appropriate for you to act like a fool or a pig since they are apparently the only type of guys the girls think belong in the club.
I don't see any dancer here or in the clubs saying this BEM. I am friendly with, I'm willing to bet, quite a few more ladies than you are ITC and OTC. Some of these ladies I've known for over ten years. It didn't happen because I'm a pig but it also didn't happen because I show up at the club and don't spend money on them. I am a gentleman and I treat the lady as such. I not only respect the ladies, I understand their need to earn a living.
The first lesson I learned when I scored my very first dancer cell phone number years ago was that when they invite you to come visit them at the club they are doing it because they are hoping you will come in and spend money on them. IF they are really your friend and IF they just want to chat they are not really wanting to do it in a G-string and 7" heels while potential customers run around spending money on other girls.
A dancer may tolerate your presence in the club if you are civil to her or useful (drinks, dances, rides) but don't ever assume that you are more valuable to her than the slobering guy with a wallet full of $20's.
While I agree that a dancer is responsible for deciding if she is wasting her time or not I also know for a fact that potential new customers get tired of waiting for a girl when they see her chatting with a guy and leave...A room with no regulars in it is not necessarily a room with no potential income.
If you are really friends and you care about her income then take her out to lunch on her day off and don't bug her when she is working.
In over 20 years of clubbing and making "friends" only one dancer out of dozens has ever told me that she was no longer comfortable dancing for me. That's pretty low odds against the "looky-lews as friends" camp in my book.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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Originally Posted by
yoda57us
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A dancer may tolerate your presence in the club if you are civil to her or useful (drinks, dances, rides) but don't ever assume that you are more valuable to her than the slobering guy with a wallet full of $20's.
Never have. In fact I have said exactly what you said.
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Originally Posted by
yoda57us
.If you are really friends and you care about her income then take her out to lunch on her day off and don't bug her when she is working.
The girls in question aren't "club-only" friends. I would expect these girls not to come by if there was even a chance of making money elsewhere and they know that and act accordingly ( not that they needed me to tell them that in the first place). In fact, in one of my posts, I believe I highlighted that expecting her to spend working time chit-chatting would be wrong on the guy's part.
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Originally Posted by
yoda57us
.In over 20 years of clubbing and making "friends" only one dancer out of dozens has ever told me that she was no longer comfortable dancing for me. That's pretty low odds against the "looky-lews as friends" camp in my book.
My numbers are not out of line with your's but I fail to see what that has to do with the thread. I know I never mentioned it and those times it has happened were rare and involved people who I had occasion to run into regularly IRL.
The intent of my post was to say that not every guy is there to be a fool or a pig though you might get that impression from reading what gets posted on the forum.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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Originally Posted by
bem401
Obviously you are, Phil. You should immediately end any and all friendships with dancers IRL. Instead of spending any significant time with them at all in or out of the club, get a second job and, as soon as you get your paycheck from that job, go in and spend it all on them. Tell them you are not interested in their friendship, and that you are not interested in talking to them unless you can pay them for doing so. If you happen to be short of cash on a day when they are working, be sure to only speak to them for that amount of time you can afford. If she doesn't have the time to talk to you, make sure you visit her at the stage. Bring plenty of money and make sure you tip generously while slobbering all over yourself and making crude comments to her. Since you are no longer friends, its OK because it is appropriate for you to act like a fool or a pig since they are apparently the only type of guys the girls think belong in the club.
Look; I've been pretty clear on this. I don't believe that girls like to spend time with friends in the club. The reason I don't believe this is because, well, I've never seen it. I've seen girls like customers; but I've never seen girls want to have a real life, non-professional friend hang out with them at work. So no. I don't believe your experience is legitimate or on the level. Sorry. I would say girls who do that are a) seriously challenged in some way, b) just hustling you really, really unsuccessfully c) working for drinks (or other favours) or (in very rare cases) d) you are just not taking a hint that you don't really belong in the club. Most often I would say it is e) and you are spending a lot more money than you realize (although probably less than she realizes). Real, actual friends don't come to my club to hang out with me. The reason they don't do that is because "really, really inappropriate" does not even begin to describe that. They would not even want to.
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IF they are really your friend and IF they just want to chat they are not really wanting to do it in a G-string and 7" heels while potential customers run around spending money on other girls.
Well. That was much pithier than my post.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
Jenny + yoda = my favorite ppl in the world........
I can think of 2 times when I invited friends to the club. Both times they totally got ignored. But neither time was it a single male friend, btw. Each time it was at least a couple of people.
If I EVER invited a single male to the club, it was to hustle him. Hands down, no contest. And that's been my experience with every dancer as well. But then again, there are some idiots out there.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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Originally Posted by
bem401
The intent of my post was to say that not every guy is there to be a fool or a pig though you might get that impression from reading what gets posted on the forum.
I don't see how....
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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Originally Posted by
bem401
The intent of my post was to say that not every guy is there to be a fool or a pig though you might get that impression from reading what gets posted on the forum.
What I meant to say was that what I said earlier isn't what I meant. It all depends on what the meaning of is is, and what you think I it is versus what the general public might like to perceive is means.
That's as much sense as your post meant Bem.::)
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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Originally Posted by
Jenny
I've seen girls like customers; but I've never seen girls want to have a real life, non-professional friend hang out with them at work.
Not hang out in the sense you'd understand, Jenny. I do at intervals gently remind the dancers I see that I'm quite happy to wait outside the venue and pick them up. The inevitable result is that they ask me to come in.
To give you an example of why - one girl is really good at hustling for dances, but hates talking to custies for one nanosecond longer than necessary. As she puts it:
"If I've run out of people to get dances from and you're not about, I either sit by myself or go to the changing room - and that looks a bit odd. If you're in the place I can sit and talk to you and it looks normal."
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Originally Posted by
yoda57us
In over 20 years of clubbing and making "friends" only one dancer out of dozens has ever told me that she was no longer comfortable dancing for me.
The three I see frequently OTC would never dance for me - and I get uncomfortable taking any form of interest in them while they're working. Didn't start out that way, but sure as hell has ended up that way.
There are probably another 10 - 12 dancers I know that won't collect from me, and expect me to take no interest in them while they're dancing. The decision has always been theirs not to collect - and once they stop collecting, I feel it's unfair on my part to pay any attention to them when they dance.
I won't bore you with a long explanation, but in a nutshell we start treating each other as if we would outside of work, realise that's the way we're behaving, then a bit of mutual embarrasement kicks in. At which point they make it clear I'm not to tip them.
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Originally Posted by
Jenny
Real, actual friends don't come to my club to hang out with me. The reason they don't do that is because "really, really inappropriate" does not even begin to describe that.
We've actually got a fair measure of agreement on that. If I'd have met these girls outside of work it would have been a seriously bad idea to go into and see them at work. However, when we first met it was as dancer/customer. That situation metamorphised over time into full blown friendship.
Result is they're comfortable with me about at work (with the unspoken proviso that I take no interest in them while they dance). Also remember that they do not regard me as part of their income stream - it's been several years since I last tipped them.
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Originally Posted by
yoda57us
If you are really friends and you care about her income then take her out to lunch on her day off and don't bug her when she is working.
Again, in principle I'd agree with Yoda. But, as I indicated above, it's the dancers who have made it clear they like me around towards the end of their shift. And yes, I know it's their income, so if there's a potential customer around I become Mr Invisible.
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Originally Posted by
Katrine
I can think of 2 times when I invited friends to the club. Both times they totally got ignored.
Exactly what they can do (with my full blessing) if a money making opportunity comes into sight. Odds are if one of my dancer friends is off hustling for dances, another dancer I know will be over for a 5 minute "chill out" chat, so I don't generally lack for someone to talk to.
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Yes, it's a f*cked up, nonsensical way of doing things, but I and the three dancers I've mentioned have gradually settled into a pattern of things that suit us. Not saying it would suit Jenny, or Yoda or Katrine but then (if I judge correctly from your posts) we probably view the world through slightly different eyes anyway.
Phil.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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Originally Posted by
Phil-W
There are probably another 10 - 12 dancers I know that won't collect from me, and expect me to take no interest in them while they're dancing. The decision has always been theirs not to collect - and once they stop collecting, I feel it's unfair on my part to pay any attention to them when they dance.
Perhaps its an English thing. I don't think you're a douche Phil. I am pretty confident that Bem is a time wasting douche. I have no backing to prove it, just a hunch. And I am willing to take a leap of faith in regards to your friendship with the primary three.
But these other dozen dancers that refuse to take your tip? That's weird. And how do you not "pay attention" to them when they dance? Do you close your eyes? Do you tip anyone when you go to the club? Are they just to proper and polite to tell you they want a tip? Its just weird.
Are these places mostly strip-pubs, where its pretty common to sit around and not spend? I don't know, too many unanswered questions. And you see, when my friends came to the club to see me, its not like I sat with them until a regular (hurl :-[ ) came up to me. They literally did not get one second to speak withe me before my ass was in the air dancing for someone else.
The longer a stripper sits with a non-spender, the more opportunity she is wasting.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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Originally Posted by
Katrine
What I meant to say was that what I said earlier isn't what I meant. It all depends on what the meaning of is is, and what you think I it is versus what the general public might like to perceive is means.
That's as much sense as your post meant Bem.::)
I was not referring to any specific posts by any specific person. I was referring to the overall tone of a lot of the threads on the site as a whole. If you took my comment as direct criticism of you, i apologize, it wasn't intended that way.
In terms of the whole "dancers as friends" issue is concerned, different strokes for different folks. I will admit to being a bit puzzled that a couple of girls I've known would notify me they were working and want me to stop in when they knew up front the customer/dancer dynamic was over. Another girl told me she'd rather I not be in there when she was working and that we confine our contact to RL. A couple of others would only ask for a dance on a really bad day but would appreciate my visiting the stage if they were being ignored and would willingly spend "down time" with me on occasion. Why any of them felt the way they felt is for them to say, just as guys view the SC experience differently: some go for extras, some go for happy endings, some go to be titillated, some go for companionship, some go to insult the girls, some go becaused they are obseessed or addicted to it, and some go just because they like hanging out in that particular club. To try to apply a one-size-fits-all model doesn't make much sense to me.
As far as me being a time-wasting douche is concerned, I really don't give a fuck if they come by or not. I have no expectations of them and they have no expectations of me. Besides which, how much time could I be wasting making 2 or 3 visits of an hour or less per week at times and places that don't necessarily coincide with any one dancer's schedule?
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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Originally Posted by
yoda57us
I don't see any dancer here or in the clubs saying this BEM. I am friendly with, I'm willing to bet, quite a few more ladies than you are ITC and OTC. Some of these ladies I've known for over ten years. It didn't happen because I'm a pig but it also didn't happen because I show up at the club and don't spend money on them. I am a gentleman and I treat the lady as such. I not only respect the ladies and I also understand also their need to earn a living.
The first lesson I learned when I scored my very first dancer cell phone number years ago was that when they invite you to come visit them at the club they are doing it because they are hoping you will come in and spend money on them. IF they are really your friend and IF they just want to chat they are not really wanting to do it in a G-string and 7" heels while potential customers run around spending money on other girls.
A dancer may tolerate your presence in the club if you are civil to her or useful (drinks, dances, rides) but don't ever assume that you are more valuable to her than the slobering guy with a wallet full of $20's.
While I agree that a dancer is responsible for deciding if she is wasting her time or not I also know for a fact that potential new customers get tired of waiting for a girl when they see her chatting with a guy and leave...A room with no regulars in it is not necessarily a room with no potential income.
If you are really friends and you care about her income then take her out to lunch on her day off and don't bug her when she is working.
In over 20 years of clubbing and making "friends" only one dancer out of dozens has ever told me that she was no longer comfortable dancing for me. That's pretty low odds against the "looky-lews as friends" camp in my book.
^^^^This is why Yoda is so f'in cool and wise!
Perfectly said Yoda!
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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Originally Posted by
bem401
How did you make the giant leap to "bugging the fuck " out of someone "all day long" and "taking her away from paying custies"?
Umm...Darvocet?
(I have been under the influence of pain meds due to an internal "issue" going on in my gastro track, lol.)
Now that I am clear headed, that makes NO sense, lol!
WHOOPSIE!
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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Originally Posted by
kitana
^^^^This is why Yoda is so f'in cool and wise!
Perfectly said Yoda!
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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Originally Posted by
Phil-W
We've actually got a fair measure of agreement on that. If I'd have met these girls outside of work it would have been a seriously bad idea to go into and see them at work. However, when we first met it was as dancer/customer. That situation metamorphised over time into full blown friendship.
Result is they're comfortable with me about at work (with the unspoken proviso that I take no interest in them while they dance). Also remember that they do not regard me as part of their income stream - it's been several years since I last tipped them.
Again, in principle I'd agree with Yoda. But, as I indicated above, it's the dancers who have made it clear they like me around towards the end of their shift. And yes, I know it's their income, so if there's a potential customer around I become Mr Invisible.
Exactly what they can do (with my full blessing) if a money making opportunity comes into sight. Odds are if one of my dancer friends is off hustling for dances, another dancer I know will be over for a 5 minute "chill out" chat, so I don't generally lack for someone to talk to.
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Yes, it's a f*cked up, nonsensical way of doing things, but I and the three dancers I've mentioned have gradually settled into a pattern of things that suit us. Not saying it would suit Jenny, or Yoda or Katrine but then (if I judge correctly from your posts) we probably view the world through slightly different eyes anyway.
Phil.
The situation I described is exactly the same Phil with two exceptions. My presence is appreciated at the start of their shift, when it is the slowest, and they welcome stage visits if they are all alone up there and getting zero attention from any of the other patrons and I do tip for the time spent at the stage. This enables them to just sit beside me there and in actuality not really dance for me. Should another guy approach the stage while I am there, they'll go to him in pretty short order, as well they should. And just like you said, it may not work for everyone, but it works for us.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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Originally Posted by
Katrine
But these other dozen dancers that refuse to take your tip? That's weird. And how do you not "pay attention" to them when they dance? Do you close your eyes? Do you tip anyone when you go to the club? Are they just too proper and polite to tell you they want a tip? Its just weird.
No Katerine, not as weird as you think. It's strip pubs, where everyone puts into a dancer's collection before they do a floor/stage show. I only pop in for the last hour of a shift and only to pick up one of the three dancer's I've mentioned. The girls that don't want tips know I'm not really there to watch the dancers.
However, I'll tip any dancer that asks (and respect their wishes if they don't want to be tipped). By not asking for a tip they're foregoing $4 - $5 from me - not exactly earth shaking. Plus, if they want a chat, odds are I'll buy them a drink anyway.
Dancer grapevine about me tends to be complimentary, so most dancers end up chatting in a different way to me than they would to a customer. Usually doesn't take them too long to start chatting about their real lives, and from there they start thinking of me as a casual friend - and hence someone they don't really want to dance in front of. (Slightly condensed version, but you'll get the gist).
Taking no notice generally means I'm chatting to another dancer or someone behind the bar. They're not too fussed if they're briefly naked in my line of sight - they just don't want me paying any real attention. (Plus, it's against my personal ethics - watching when I haven't tipped makes me a cheapskate!)
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Originally Posted by
Katrine
And you see, when my friends came to the club to see me, its not like I sat with them until a regular came up to me. They literally did not get one second to speak withe me before my ass was in the air dancing for someone else.
No problem - I'm only in the place for an hour max, and if they're busy and ignoring me, good luck to them. Means they're making money, which as far as I'm concerned is great. If they're busy I can generally find someone else to chat to.
I'm going to chat to them on the way home anyway, and maybe over a coffee when we get there. I'm also going to catch up with them when they're not working, so it's no big deal if they're too busy to talk to me in a venue.
I go to help them out, not waste their time.
Phil.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
there were two reasons i'd ever invite male friends to whatever club i was working at:
moral support/preemptive striking (consider this one reason)-- if i'd been having trouble with my hustle mojo or other girls were complaining i 'overhustled' or whatever, i'd bring in a male friend as a ringer. girls would rush to hustle my 'regular' (who had no money on him of course except a few stage tipping dollars) and i was left alone to actually earn money.
to give me moneys-- self-explanatory.
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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Originally Posted by
Phil-W
I'm going to chat to them on the way home anyway, and maybe over a coffee when we get there. I'm also going to catch up with them when they're not working, so it's no big deal if they're too busy to talk to me in a venue.
I go to help them out, not waste their time.
Phil.
So why don't you wait outside? Why do you need to sit there for an hour not spending money on ANYONE?
Same with you Bem.
Sure, both of you have the right to sit at clubs and not spend money. But you apparently do this all the time. It makes you a DOUCHE DOUCHE DOUCHE DOUCHE DOUCHE!!
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Re: Different Dancers for Different Roles: lap dance, stage dance, and conversation
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Originally Posted by
Katrine
So why don't you wait outside? Why do you need to sit there for an hour not spending money on ANYONE?
Same with you Bem.
Sure, both of you have the right to sit at clubs and not spend money. But you apparently do this all the time. It makes you a DOUCHE DOUCHE DOUCHE DOUCHE DOUCHE!!
Groan.... Did you read my earlier posts?
a) I've indicated willingness to wait outside - it's the dancers that want me to come in. (Read ealier posts for reasons).
b) I'll tip any dancer that wants tipping. Some don't want me to tip them. Their choice again. (Ditto - read earlier posts for reasons).
You're moaning at me for conforming to how the dancers want me to behave.
Duh....
Phil.