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Selling more than a few dances?
I have been reading on here how sometimes you girls are sometimes able to sell 10 or more dances in a row. I think that is really impressive and I'm not sure what I am doing wrong. The most I have sold is three. But, I don't think it's because I give bad dances. Usually I can tell the guy is really enjoying it but after the second or the third he will say something like 'I can't handle anymore or I might cum in my pants'. The thing is I don't do a lot of heavy grinding and I try to more around. Or the other response is something like 'do you do private dances?'. Yesterday one guy, after the 3rd dance came out and said 'how much do I have to pay you for sex'? I told him I was not a prostitute, but he kept trying and obviously did not get anymore dances. Any advise?
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Re: Selling more than a few dances?
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bellasera
But, I don't think it's because I give bad dances. Usually I can tell the guy is really enjoying it but after the second or the third he will say something like 'I can't handle anymore or I might cum in my pants'. The thing is I don't do a lot of heavy grinding and I try to more around.
Do you give alot of slow, sensual eyecontact? I touch my body and the custy's body while I dance for him. Rarely take my eyes off him. Depending on the customer when the song is almost near completion, I'll put on some super heavy grinding and that will make him want to keep going. That's extremely rare for me to do though. I usually nuzzle my head into their neck, rub their arm up and down with one hand, rub their neck with the other and say, "thats are song baby, I'd like to keep going, wouldn't you"
After the second dance, I ask, "ok would you like to do this dance here, or were you ready for your private dance?" They usually inquire as to what that is, and I inform them. If they dont go for the private, I say, "well that's ok, we can still have a good time right here, long as I'm with you" :)
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I do a lot of eye contact, rub their arms ect. I'm not sure if your club has private dances or a cr, but at my club we only have one type of dance. So, when they ask if I do private dances they are insinuating if I will 'dance'(have sex) for them at their house.
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Oh, that sux you guys have no way to upsell..
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If your dances are hot, which it sounds like they are, then I would suggest thinking more of the way you are selling. When I first sit with a guy and bring up private dances I try to do it in a way that sort of psychologically preps him for spending a lot, stuff like always referring to dances in the plural, and "spending time" together. I also try to make him feel like a big spender, just build the experience up a lot, before we start and during the songs. I also notice a really good success rate to ask for another dance (as one song is ending) is when I simply say, "let's do one more" (of course whispered in his ear). Sometimes I'll even throw a little reverse psychology on him if he's turning down another - I'll say, "I'm getting too turned on, I should take a break before I get us in trouble or something. I guess I could do one more then I need to cool down, let's just do one more..."
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holiday
Sometimes I'll even throw a little reverse psychology on him if he's turning down another - I'll say, "I'm getting too turned on, I should take a break before I get us in trouble or something. I guess I could do one more then I need to cool down, let's just do one more..."
I really like that line :)
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Originally Posted by
holiday
Sometimes I'll even throw a little reverse psychology on him if he's turning down another - I'll say, "I'm getting too turned on, I should take a break before I get us in trouble or something. I guess I could do one more then I need to cool down, let's just do one more..."
Yeah that is defiantly a good one!
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change up what you're doing physically right before the end of a song. why stop when you can fully experience a new position, new trick/sensation, etc...
do NOT do this during a song break... keep in continuum. if you change positions during a song break instead of before, this tells a custy to say "stop."
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as for how to continue beyond like 3 dances, when he agrees to the 3rd one (i say, "im alreayd naked on your lap, you're not done are you?" and then, "good i didnt want to get dressed yet." and after the second, "that was hot let's keep going.") you say ok, just stop me when you've had enough, because i dont want to stop each song to ask you. and THIS is how i do 5+ songs for someone. because they dont want to stop and when you stop and ask after each and every song they will have the opportunity to stop. if you arent stopping to ask.. it's all gravy!
after 5 i say that was five, but im not done yet. after ten i tell him it was ten. etc.. etc..
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^ I'm trying that tonight.
I never realized that what I was doing was so abrupt and whatever. I feel like I've been selling single cokes out of a vending machine instead of six packs. I guess I really need to market them as something to be bought in multiples.
So anyway, here's another question: When I ask for the dance, usually refer to the dance just like that... as a singular dance. Should I start saying, would you like some dancES? Or would that throw people who only want one dance off from me? I really rely on those dances right now, they really add up for me. At the club I'm at, most girls seem to only be able to sell 1-3 dances like me. If this is the norm, is it still possible for me to be the super stripper who sells more? I'm already doing more individual dances that other girls, at least according to the d.j. who counts them.
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Chrissy68
you say ok, just stop me when you've had enough, because i dont want to stop each song to ask you. and THIS is how i do 5+ songs for someone. because they dont want to stop and when you stop and ask after each and every song they will have the opportunity to stop. if you arent stopping to ask.. it's all gravy!
oooo thats good :)
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I tried some of these and they worked amazingly well! I noticed a dramatic improvement last night after changing up how I asked for the subsequent dances. Thanks!
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I just want to add that after reading this thread Thursday:
I sold 6 dances in a row in back (that's a high amount here) and then 6 table dances in a row (also a lot).
So score +1 for this thread!
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Another way to sell multiple dances is to sell them in blocks of time. "It's $30 a song, or we can do half an hour for $300." "Now would you like to do a session, or go by the individual songs? Sessions are much more fun." (something about the word session works really well). "I hate stopping after every song like this, let's just do half an hour?"
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Lena, good ideas! :)
About stacking dances and saying "I'm just going to keep going; you tell me when you can't take anymore"...
...I'm envisioning a *ton* of customers giving me BS at the end of the string of dances. "What do you mean 5 dances? You didn't tell me we were doing another song, I thought all that was one song b/c you didn't stop me, blah blah blah! I'm not paying for 5 dances..." Even though I'd explain it perfectly clearly, you know how custies are. If they see an opportunity to play dumb and use the "i didn't know!" line to get something (in this case a string of dances) for free...they'll do it shamelessly. >:(
Even now when I only sell two dances, and I clearly ask if they want to do a second dance as the first one is ending, I still get douchebags trying the "but I didn't know we were doing another song; I thought it was all one song" and crap like that to get out of paying another whole $25. ::)
Do you ever get that, Chrissy (and others who stack multiple dances like that)? How often does it happen? And what do you do about it when it does?
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^^^ That's always my big worry too...
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What I do is lean in before the song is over and asked them in my sexy voice "do you want me to stop?" and breath a little bit on the neck. 9 times out of 10 they tell me to keep going. One guy last night bought 15 dances from me back to back, and other 5 more dances about 10 minutes later. :)
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icey
One guy last night bought 15 dances from me back to back, and other 5 more dances about 10 minutes later. :)
Wow icey I would love to see your technique in action! That is awesome.
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You guys are guuuuud!
i'll say sexy or like a pouty brat depending on the guy, "Again" in their ear to get them to keep going...You dont want me to stop, do you? whispered in the ear then eye contact and nodding yes with a devilish smile, im gonna keep going ok?
custy - OK
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I've lately been trying to get them to where "no" means don't stop. b/c they're programmed to not spend alot, and that no means no more.
this way it's in their not spending too much comfort zone, but they're still spending ;)
like this:
"do you want me to stop?"
"do you want this to end?"
"do you need a break?"
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Lena
Another way to sell multiple dances is to sell them in blocks of time. "It's $30 a song, or we can do half an hour for $300." "Now would you like to do a session, or go by the individual songs? Sessions are much more fun." (something about the word session works really well). "I hate stopping after every song like this, let's just do half an hour?"
Is there a better way to word that for a place that counts every dance and takes money from the dances they count?
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TigersMilk
Is there a better way to word that for a place that counts every dance and takes money from the dances they count?
I work in a place like that and still sell it that way. I'm still paying $5/song to the club, but I'm selling half an hour to the customer. In this club there's 6-8 songs in half an hour, so I come out ahead.
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bellasera all I do is a lot of eye contact and touch there face with my hands and dancing very very slow.
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Personally, I won't stack dances without informing the customer as to the exact number because I've had some problems in the past (an lost out on money because I couldn't prove how many we actually did). I usually like to make it very clear how many dances we are currently at, but after the first 5 I will offer to do another set of five, making it very clear how much money that will be (especially if they are drunk).
Some things that work for me are to try to make the dances get "better" with time. What I mean is, don't give away your best dance as your first dance. Let's say you have 10 different positions you use for your dances, only use 3 for your first dance and then introduce a new one for each additional dance (adding it in by the end of the song). Another thing is to never actually stop dancing when you ask if they want to continue. It seems easier for them to say they want to keep going if you are still actually dancing while you ask. When they do say they are done, you can usually get at least one more by saying something like, "I bet you can keep going for just one more" and then after that you can say, "see, I knew you could. Let's just try another one more..." If they say no twice, then I let them be.
Another thing that I do but that may not work in your club is to go an extra five to ten seconds into the next song and say something like, "that was so much fun, I almost didn't realize the song changed. Well, we should just keep doing this one, alright?" If you do a lot of dances, they can lose track of the total count, so I usually let them know every time we hit $100. The other thing is, most guys have no desire to do more than a few dances in a row so don't expect any technique to work 100% of the time. Finding out which customers want to go the distance will help out a lot more than any of these lines.