does anyone here do the whole "5 per hour" or whatever number goal? like where you come up with a number,and whatever number that is you try to get that many dances a hour to come up with your nightly goal?
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does anyone here do the whole "5 per hour" or whatever number goal? like where you come up with a number,and whatever number that is you try to get that many dances a hour to come up with your nightly goal?
I just do the, I'm going to keep going until I get a dance. Dance, take money, repeat. I don't really do number goals, I just try to keep on going and going.
I dont bother with dances per hour, because selling dances at 11pm with a full club is gonna be a lot easier than selling them at 7pm with an empty club, and then VIP rooms and champagne rooms have to figure in somewhere.... plus nice tips.
I have a monetary goal I work towards every night, and check regulalry to make sure that I'm on track. Last night I forced myself to stay an extra 20 mins to make the two last dances I needed to push me over the edge of my goal :P
Most nights i like to exceed my goal, but in the slower summer months it helps to have a number to motivate me.
i somewhat have a goal but i always set it a little low that way at the end of the night im pleasantly surprized
it's so hit and miss in this club that i find myself saying "if you can just make 1 dance an hour, just one,thats $100, thats easy right!" on a 5 hr shift.
Obviously i beat that but its nice to have that thought that even if you can only sell one dance in 60 minutes you can still afford to get home lol.
Then i find myself increasing the amount as i get more confident
"four dances an hour,just four..."
Not per hour - because there are times when it's too slow to sell any - but last night I fell asleep thinking of how I want to make a bracelet or something that has a way to mark off dances as I do them, so I can visually see how many I have left to hit my goals. It sounds weird, but I thought of it because I don't take the time to count my money and I don't want to carry a pen and paper, or go to the dressing room to check dances off, but i think it would help to really be able to see how many more I need to sell. So I want to make something I can have in my purse, or beads on a bracelet I can move or take off, I guess I should just get one of those candy ones with however many candies and eat one each time I sell a dance.
You could also maybe do something like carry an altoids tin with a set number of altoids, like 25, and then eat/dispose of them after each dance. Doesn't look superweird. The only problem would be making sure you don't get nacho breath and need them, or bum them off to other girls...
Ya, that's what I decided to do! I can also use like lifesvers or anyting, and I offer them to customers too. :)
Strategy at my old club: We were on stage once an hour for six hours. I calculated how long the songs were, etc etc etc. Figured out that I had to sell three dances in between each of my stage sets in order to have a $300 night. It was a formidable goal, as dances were very hard to sell.
My new club: Not sure yet. Dances are only ten, and they are WAY easier to sell. Yekefah had mentioned something great in another forum. Every time she makes $100 she lets herself have a break. I actually think I"m going to try that. Go in bundles of 100.
In the past I have often made a goal of # of dances for the whole night. That way I wasn't fixed on a money goal, and wouldnt get discouraged if it took me over an hour to sell a dance. Sometimes it's slow. Sometimes the guys are all cheap. Sometimes they're all hustled out. If i can do 10 or 20 or 30 dances by the end of the night, it's fun to add them up that way instead of always counting my money.
I don't do hourly goals, but I do have daily and weekly goals. I would fear if I tried to set hourly expectations I would get too frustrated...some days I don't do a single dance until 2 hours into the shift, then get 10 in a row, or a VIP..etc.
I have nightly goals, used to do the dances per hour thing, need to do it again. I have better results when I do it that way.
Not weird at all! I've thought of doing the same thing! Sometimes I do a "count down"- and I keep a friend updated through text as a motivator. I worked a Thursday a couple months ago from 4pm-2am and decided I wanted to make a grand- so I counted down from 100-0 (10 dollars a dance). And before the end of the night- I made my goal! 100 dances! Like every ten I'd text my friend and he'd send back encouraging texts- it was fun!
If the club is really busy then it's easy to set a per hour goal. If it's slow or you're going more on VIPs then it's different. Usually I'll set a dollar goal and then say, "That's one VIP and 20 dances." Then I try to get that VIP, and in the process get dances.
My hourly goal is always "as many as possible." I don't wear a watch and try not to remind paying customers of the time, so I would rarely have a way of keeping track. I do make a nightly goal, one thats reasonable for the day of week and number of hours I'm working. I set my goal to be about 100-300 more than what I made on a similar night before. I like high goals. If I set a low goal its too easy to say I'm tired and head out early once I've met it.
5 per hour sounds good on paper, but I find in reality it is many times unattainable.
Nowadays the clubs do not always have enough customers to make that viable. You may go several hours with only a handful of customers in the club, or the type that don't spend just hanging out. Some nights you may have more girls than customers working. You may on other nights only have 20-30 customers through the door all night.
You just have to focus on approaching everyone who is available to be approached and if you sell some of them, work at getting repeat dances. I would practice lines that you use for getting multiple dances more than I would worry about a quota. Just do all you can with what you have to work with, and realize that somedays will be better or worse than others customerwise.
Thought I'd post again on this one... since I've been at my new club with $10 dances, every time I get up to $100 I deposit that in my locker. It's SOOO motivating when you know that all you need is two more dances and you get to make another deposit. I love it and it keeps me moving. This idea is courtesy of Yekefah from another thread (cant remember which one) who was saying that she lets herself take a break every $100. Great idea.
tiny goals never worked for me, only general weekly goals. the reason is that individual crappy nights would just leave me demoralised on the better nights. a weekly goal meant that at worst i'd have to work an extra shift to be sure of getting enough money.
i used a minimum and an 'expected', with the goal to never make less than minimum and to exceed the expected after a few weeks so both goals could be raised.
Me too. I think specific goals like that are a bit self-limiting. Too easy to slack off after meeting the goal, when you COULD keep going and make more. It also encourages working harder instead of smarter. Ie, the girls who will work all day and night on a slow day to make that goal, then leave early on a busy day when they make the goal. That's backwards - work more on the busy day to bring home MORE money, and save your energy on the slow day. Or just work the same hours each shift regardless, and try to make as much as possible each time. You'll bring home more money in the same or less time that way.
My earnings goal is never number-based. It's always just MORE.
I like to go for weekly goals because it's so unpredictable night to night. I have limited myself to working four days a week now so i try to reach my goal in three days so i can reward myself with an extra night off if i choose or work the fourth night to be above and byon the weekly goal. I try to go for VIP with every guy i talk to. My goal is pretty much as much as possible!
I had a friend that always had a 1K a night goal...So she tried to be at about 400 by 11pm and by 4am make up the rest...she didn't make 1K everynight but she seemed to hit it pretty often.
I have actually noticed that if I take a break togo into a bathroom stall and count what I have made so far(FYI: NEVER COUNT IN FRONT OF ANYONE), I end up not making as much. If I never count when I am working, I loose count. This is always best. If you know how much you have made already, you might not work as hard, because you will realize exactly how close you are to your goal.
Plus, on slower nights- you might think that you have made less, and then discover that you have made more- simply because you were'nt keeping track of how much that you had made.::)
I have actually noticed that if I take a break togo into a bathroom stall and count what I have made so far(FYI: NEVER COUNT IN FRONT OF ANYONE), I end up not making as much. If I never count when I am working, I loose count. This is always best. If you know how much you have made already, you might not work as hard, because you will realize exactly how close you are to your goal.
Plus, on slower nights- you might think that you have made less, and then discover that you have made more- simply because you were'nt keeping track of how much that you had made.::)
Everytime I try to do the "5 per hour" game it never works out. Usually it's cause when I first get to work it's so slow. It's impossible to sell those 5, hell sometimes even 1 in that hour. But as it gets later, I tend to make up for lost time.
Don't try to think about it in terms of the NEXT hour. Looking back at your nightly, you can break it down to an average of 5 per hour for success. However, when it came to setting goals for myself, it was as many as possible! There should be no reason to limit yourself. Just hustle until you're too tired, pissed off, the club closes, or there is no more business. :)