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    I'm curious about how and why and by whom this photo was released. Has anyone else wondered about this?

    And my heart goes out to his family, whatever mistakes they may have made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoseWhite View Post
    I'm curious about how and why and by whom this photo was released. Has anyone else wondered about this?
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    It's a tragedy all the way around. I prey for the day schools and parents take bullying, harrassment, and mental illness in children seriously. If you'd like more information on his family background and mental illness read up! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1909617/posts
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoseWhite View Post
    And my heart goes out to his family, whatever mistakes they may have made.
    I don't think it's fair at all to blame the family.

    I am someone who was absolutely fucking tormented throughout school, but who had a wonderful upbringing at home. I'll admit, that whilst I didn't act upon them, from age 10 I had very sick fantasies about murdering some of the psychotic, cruel little cunts that I attended school with. I used to draw graphic pictures in my journal of me killing them, because they made every single day of my life for quite a few years an absolute living hell. I came very close to suicide many times, and was driven damn near to the point of complete fucking insanity by those violent, vicious, mean little bastards.

    It had nothing to do with my family at all.

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    ^agreed. My family was amazing, but at school, I was tortured every day. I would cry hysterically before school daily, and would shake the whole time on the bus. I wanted to kill myself on a regular basis. I was bullied, hazed, beaten, every. freakin. day. You better believe I wanted to kill those bastards.

    What this kid did was horrible. But I do understand how he may have been driven to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kandie_kitten View Post
    What this kid did was horrible. But I do understand how he may have been driven to do it.
    exactly. i don't agree with his actions, nor do i condone them, but i do understand them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    It's tragic, plain and simple.

    Thank god he didn't kill anyone.

    I suppose I almost have sympathy for him, even if he tried to kill people which tends to eliminate that emotion in his regard.

    The kids that go berserk and try to shoot up their schools have generally suffered serious, very real trauma in those schools--or they would pick another target for their revenge: the fucking shopping malls, the neighborhood park, whatever.

    Suffering trauma is no excuse for killing people, of course. But the environment that fosters such terrible, destructive mental states is very real, and it occurs all over the USA, in a zillion schools.

    I remember quite well living on a high hill in Maine, from which I could see my junior high school, wherein I suffered daily torture from my mental/cultural inferiors, for being from another part of the country, for being short and skinny, for daring to think it shouldn't matter. The fucking teachers were worse than useless. they knew what was going on and did nothing whatsoever to stop it.

    The fucking vice principal got on the PA every single morning and announced how vitally important it was to kiss the collective asses of the biggest jerks in the school, the fucking jocks who gave me far more shit than any of the other evil, vindictive, anti-social little brats. Because 'sports builds teamwork and leadership!'

    Right...

    I used to fantasize having an extremely large, high-calibre naval cannon (I was into naval history in a big way), up on the hill, and blowing the fuck out of that school.

    If my mom had been ignorant and violent towards me, if I had some sort of chemical imbalance, if I had had ready access to guns, or maybe a real live large, high-calibre naval cannon? Who knows?

    If I turned into a raving lunatic and killed people, I would have lost any worthiness for respect and sympathy, sure.

    But to pretend these kids go on killing sprees because they are just psycho looneytunes, while ignoring the sick, vicious bullshit that goes on in supposedly normal, healthy learning environments--this would be a big mistake.

    I'm glad she posted the thread, people need to be aware of what encouraging your kids to fuck with the geeks at school can lead to...

    You wrote exactly whats on my mind.

    I also think kids are a whole lot meaner to each other these days. There seems to be a lot of "thug culture" and more "keeping up with the joneses" these days.

    And I also think school administration and teachers don't get involved in bullying and such like they should. There was a time when being in school meant being taught how to be civil to each other.

    There seems to be a tolerance for a lot more bullshit in schools these days. With so many alienated kids going on shooting sprees, someone should be waking the fuck up. This is an alarm bell clacking away and no one is listening.

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    I look at mental illness from both points of view. On the one hand a part of me has compassion for the torment that some people go through. On the other when people commit atrocities towards others we as a society and individuals have every right to feel disgusted and to send a strong message to the next person(s) thinking of doing the same that we are not tolerant of cruel, abusive behavior. I don't believe that either point of view is absolute truth; it's just different aspects of the same problem.

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    bg & armysgt, thanks for the links/info. one says the kid had a history of this.. thats what gets me the most.

    the difference between you guys who are saying you were picked on and had THOUGHTS and this guy is that you didnt DO IT.

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    I think it's awful that the pic is circulating...

    but honestly, I needed to see it. I haven't been in a good place and, well... I don't want anybody to find me like that.

    Not that I was thinking about killing anyone else, and not that it has much to do with the discussion, but, anyway.

    And like Djoser and Darcy, the thought passed through my mind. But I'd never have actually done it. Weird how the mind works sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by britt244 View Post
    the difference between you guys who are saying you were picked on and had THOUGHTS and this guy is that you didnt DO IT.
    yes, but like Djoser said, the potential differentiating factor is whether the kid in question has access to a gun. i was tormented to the point that i genuinely wanted those kids to die because i had so much hatred and rage inside me and nobody could do anything to stop it (these nasty kids, their parents actually encouraged them to pick on me because i didn't go to church and was evil). had i actually had any comprehensible way of gaining access to a gun and bullets, then it's entirely possible they may have just pushed me over the edge. thinking back on it now, no, i probably wouldn't have done it, but on those days when i'd come home from school after being kicked and beaten for being 'evil' and 'crazy' and 'satan spawn' and was in a rage-fuelled delusion, i can easily understand how children with access to a gun could see that as a permanent solution to what at the time seems like an eternal problem.

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    i just really want people to look at this from the other side, too. even if you didnt encourage your child to be mean, that doesn't mean they wouldn't be. and what if they were? would it be ok when someone brought a gun to school and harmed or killed them?

    ive never been there so i dont understand your side of it. but i'm just asking you to look at the other side too. yeah its absolutely shitty the way kids treat each other. i'm sorry that some of you guys were treated badly. but there is NOTHING they can do that makes the kids that hurt you or the kids that hurt him deserve to be shot. and there's nothing anyone can say to make me think otherwise.

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    i'm not saying they deserve to be shot, at all. i said in my first post that i don't agree with nor condone the actions of the shooters, and i do not think that shooting up a school is the right thing to do. i'm simply saying that i have an understanding of the mindset of these kids that are taking guns to school.

    when you are a kid and you are getting picked on to that extent, it feels like NOTHING will ever fix it, and that life is really going to suck that badly forever. i got picked on extremely badly, and i know there's thousands of kids out there that get picked on far worse than i ever did.

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    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/12/stu...nal/index.html

    seriously? the parents bought their child guns? sometimes the family IS to blame.

    (i know this is about another kid but still)

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    I got picked on a lot in school & my brother also, until he was transferred to a special school (he's mildly autistic.) Luckily there were enough loving people around us that we weren't pushed into acting out in some awful way.

    I wish people felt the same outrage about innocent bystander deaths in the inner city as they do about school shootings. I wish...

    I also feel males are intrinsically agressive/violent anyway & young men need to be given outlets for that, like boxing, martial arts or hunting. The feminization of society has messed up the perceptions of what a Male is...
    (OK now I'm going to crawl back into Robert Bly's basement..) Ha ha. Seriously though, if bullied kids didn't feel so impotent and frustrated, they would be able to understand youthful hazing is a phase.

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    sigh. now, i am not going to be a hypocrite and say if you're picking on an autistic (or any other special needs) child that all bets are off.. but.. pick on someone who can fight back. it breaks my heart thinking about autistic kids being bullied (no offense to anyone else.. but its worse if youre special needs).

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    ^ That's part of why I'm so cynical. I saw people (even adults) do the cruelest things to my brother.

    I was raised to "not fight back" so I got picked on a lot too.

    People suck.

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    i'm sorry you had to go through that. i think it is one of the sickest things someone can do, to pick on someone who doesn't have the mental capacity or the ability to fight back. i work with autistic kids, and one that my mom works with and i babysit and ive known since he was a baby, he's like my brother. ick. i hate thinking about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darcy Foxx View Post
    I don't think it's fair at all to blame the family.
    Darcy, I just want to clarify - my words were in no way intended to blame the family. I'm not sure if you think that's what I meant, but I can see why you might have read it that way. When I said "my heart goes out to his family, whatever mistakes they may have made", I meant just the opposite of blame, because I know they probably WILL be scrutinized by the media and blamed by a lot of people. I think they need support right now, not blame. That's all.
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    Things like this remind why I can't own a gun, and any person that lives with me cannot have them either.

    I'm nuts, and I'll admit that.I was picked on since I was 12 for being the 'crazy one' in school because people knew I was inpatient alot. I was homeschooled the last half of my 8th grade year because I beat up a girl that looked at me funny. Yes, that was the only reason I did it.

    I was taken out of 'traditional' high school because I just kept getting screwed with so the school made a special 'program' for me. I had a teacher that I could go to any time. I could leave any class that picked on me too much to go to her and do my work. So yeah, it was hell for me all the way up to my 2nd year of college.

    But I digress. Here's some thinking inside my fucked up brain when I was still on school, and no, it's not rational.

    Temporary problems don't seem so temporary when I'm really mad about something, so I do the most destructive thing I can do at that moment. You can tell me it will get better 300 times, but right then I don't believe it. I've hit people, thrown shit, and a million other things, but I've never had a gun. I know damn well that if I had a gun, something bad would happen. So...no guns for Gingerlee. Crisis averted.

    That kid was beyond fucked up for what he did, and I feel for his victims because their life has been turned upside down over something they didn't even see coming. I pray that their lives get back to 'normal' (or some version of normal) as soon as possible.

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    Was his name "Asa Coon" or is the thread title supposed to mean "as a coon"?

    People can be crazy whether or not they have access to a gun. I own about 10 and I've had guns in my possession since I was around 14.

    For the most part I've only shot at the people Uncle Sam told me to. I think that's a horrible excuse to shoot somebody these days.

    I highly recommend firearms and shooting for sport and training for self defense. i don't recommend actually shooting anybody if you don't have to, however. You damage yourself in the process.
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    his name was asa coon. asa pronounced asia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darcy Foxx View Post
    yes, but like Djoser said, the potential differentiating factor is whether the kid in question has access to a gun.
    BULL SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    The differentiating factor is he chose to kill.

    Guns don't make people crazy, they don't "allow" a person to kill'' as if given permission. Guns are inanimate objects and cannot be held up as the excuse or reason for this douche bag killing people.

    Since the cartridge he used to kill himself with was loaded with pellets (aka snakeshot); looks like a bit of luck that this was what was in the revolvers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by britt244 View Post
    i'm sorry you had to go through that. i think it is one of the sickest things someone can do, to pick on someone who doesn't have the mental capacity or the ability to fight back. i work with autistic kids, and one that my mom works with and i babysit and ive known since he was a baby, he's like my brother. ick. i hate thinking about that.
    That's all they do is pick on people they KNOW won't fight back! Don't be fooled by appearances. These kids and adults do not do this to people who fight back or speak up.

    If an adult attacked you repeatedly the law would back you up in protecting yourself but when it happens to a child they don't! They expect a child to report it to an adult and wait........ It kills me how these opportunistic DAs get so passionate about prosecuting kids as adults. The whole point of having separate penalties is that a child cannot function as an adult does. Their brains are literally different. So the patience and reasoning ability you and I have as adults doesn't exist in kids because the brain has not fully developed. We're too caught up in self-righteously attacking our young instead of learning that it takes tons of work from a COMMUNITY to protect and raise healthy kids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist View Post
    If an adult attacked you repeatedly the law would back you up in protecting yourself but when it happens to a child they don't! They expect a child to report it to an adult and wait........ It kills me how these opportunistic DAs get so passionate about prosecuting kids as adults. The whole point of having separate penalties is that a child cannot function as an adult does. Their brains are literally different. So the patience and reasoning ability you and I have as adults doesn't exist in kids because the brain has not fully developed. We're too caught up in self-righteously attacking our young instead of learning that it takes tons of work from a COMMUNITY to protect and raise healthy kids.
    Damn straight.

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